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Afterparty

2022-11-19T03:00:31Z

Juerd:

{{Meeting
|Name=Afterparty
|StartDate=2022/11/19
|EndDate=2022/11/20
|Where=Industrieweg Oost 7b, 6662 NE Elst , The Netherlands
}}

[[image:mchafterparty.png|thumb|right|450px|The poster for the MCH2022 afterparty, as usually high quality design has prevailed]]

'''The MCH2022 afterparty is for everyone who made MCH2022 possible: all orga, angels, friends, secret angels, everyone who helped or want to help in the future and so on.
'''

== Location ==
The afterparty will take place in Elst, because it is close to the German border. It is in the GKS ICT Solutions building, at Industrieweg Oost 7b in Elst. Parking avaidable around the building. A train station is at 15 minutes walking distance.

== Travel ==

=== Car ===
Parking spots are available around the venue. There's basically infinite parking space, so if you can walk an infinite distance it will be fine.

=== Train / Public transport ===
The venue is located almost next to a [https://www.ns.nl/stationsinformatie/est/elst railway station in Elst]. Trains run up until [https://www.ns.nl/en/journeyplanner/#/?vertrek=Elst&vertrektype=treinstation&aankomst=Utrecht%20Centraal&aankomsttype=treinstation&type=vertrek&tijd=2022-11-19T23:30&firstMileModality=PUBLIC_TRANSPORT&lastMileModality=PUBLIC_TRANSPORT&entireTripModality=OWN_CAR&disabledTransportModalities=&context=arnu%7CfromStation%3D8400207%7CtoStation%3D8400621%7CplannedFromTime%3D2022-11-20T01:56:00%2B01:00%7CplannedArrivalTime%3D2022-11-20T02:42:00%2B01:00%7CexcludeHighSpeedTrains%3Dfalse%7CsearchForAccessibleTrip%3Dfalse%7CaddChangeTime%3D0&ritnummers=23406 01:56]. Since Elst is very close to Arhnem, there is always an option for a carpool to the city. They start running _really_ early in the morning as well... so [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hHkKJfcBXcw trains are your friends]. <br />
Note that due to scheduled maintenance the train schedule might be adjusted that weekend for those to/from Utrecht.

== Program ==
Not final at all

=== Saturday ===
* 11:00 Buildup and idling
* 12:00 Lunch
* 13:37 Doors open, preparty
* 16:00 Party
* 18:00 Food
* 00:00 Continuous party

=== Sunday ===
* 12:00 Brunch + Start Cleanup
* ??:?? Food stuffs is picked up

== Attending the afterparty ==

If you've been an angel, orga or feel connected to organizing the event, please come! By listing yourself here you'll let us know how many people to expect for food :). If you're wondering about the costs, there will be none.

Please choose '''the one option that suits you best''' in the table below:

{| class="wikitable sortable"
|-
! Name !! Vega !! Meat !! Fish !! MeatGlutenfree !! MeatHalal !! Comment
|-
{{AttendeeBBQ|Attendee=Stitch|Meat=1|Vega=0|Fish=0|MeatGlutenfree=0|MeatHalal=0|Comment=No}}
{{AttendeeBBQ|Attendee=Rizoom|Meat=0|Vega=1|Fish=0|MeatGlutenfree=0|MeatHalal=0|Comment=No}}
{{AttendeeBBQ|Attendee=Martian|Meat=1|Vega=0|Fish=0|MeatGlutenfree=0|MeatHalal=0|Comment=No}}
{{AttendeeBBQ|Attendee=Coco|Meat=1|Vega=0|Fish=0|MeatGlutenfree=0|MeatHalal=0|Comment=No}}
{{AttendeeBBQ|Attendee=Pwuts|Meat=0|Vega=0|Fish=1|MeatGlutenfree=0|MeatHalal=0|Comment=No}}
{{AttendeeBBQ|Attendee=cmpxchg|Meat=1|Vega=0|Fish=0|MeatGlutenfree=0|MeatHalal=0|Comment=No}}
{{AttendeeBBQ|Attendee=sirgoofy|Meat=1|Vega=0|Fish=0|MeatGlutenfree=0|MeatHalal=0|Comment=No}}
{{AttendeeBBQ|Attendee=konmei|Meat=1|Vega=0|Fish=0|MeatGlutenfree=0|MeatHalal=0|Comment=No}}
{{AttendeeBBQ|Attendee=Robin|Meat=1|Vega=0|Fish=0|MeatGlutenfree=0|MeatHalal=0|Comment=No}}
{{AttendeeBBQ|Attendee=Knorrie|Meat=1|Vega=0|Fish=0|MeatGlutenfree=0|MeatHalal=0|Comment=No limit}}
{{AttendeeBBQ|Attendee=Twi|Meat=1|Vega=0|Fish=0|MeatGlutenfree=0|MeatHalal=0|Comment=No}}
{{AttendeeBBQ|Attendee=phjl|Meat=0|Vega=1|Fish=1|MeatGlutenfree=0|MeatHalal=0|Comment=No}}
{{AttendeeBBQ|Attendee=Loppermann|Meat=1|Vega=0|Fish=0|MeatGlutenfree=0|MeatHalal=0|Comment=No}}
{{AttendeeBBQ|Attendee=Firewall|Meat=0|Vega=0|Fish=1|MeatGlutenfree=0|MeatHalal=0|Comment=No}}
{{AttendeeBBQ|Attendee=Hoxolotl|Meat=0|Vega=0|Fish=1|MeatGlutenfree=0|MeatHalal=0|Comment=No}}
{{AttendeeBBQ|Attendee=Hp197|Meat=1|Vega=0|Fish=0|MeatGlutenfree=0|MeatHalal=0|Comment=No}}
{{AttendeeBBQ|Attendee=Winko|Meat=1|Vega=0|Fish=0|MeatGlutenfree=0|MeatHalal=0|Comment=No}}
{{AttendeeBBQ|Attendee=Hobbybob|Meat=1|Vega=0|Fish=0|MeatGlutenfree=0|MeatHalal=0|Comment=No}}
{{AttendeeBBQ|Attendee=Xesxen|Meat=1|Vega=0|Fish=0|MeatGlutenfree=0|MeatHalal=0|Comment=No}}
{{AttendeeBBQ|Attendee=Eightdot|Meat=1|Vega=0|Fish=0|MeatGlutenfree=0|MeatHalal=0|Comment=No}}
{{AttendeeBBQ|Attendee=Xenomatrix|Meat=1|Vega=0|Fish=0|MeatGlutenfree=0|MeatHalal=0|Comment=No}}
{{AttendeeBBQ|Attendee=Netsmurf|Meat=1|Vega=0|Fish=0|MeatGlutenfree=0|MeatHalal=0|Comment=No}}
{{AttendeeBBQ|Attendee=SynQ|Meat=1|Vega=0|Fish=0|MeatGlutenfree=0|MeatHalal=0|Comment=I have there now already sin in. First comment!}}
{{AttendeeBBQ|Attendee=hvwees|Meat=0|Vega=0|Fish=0|MeatGlutenfree=1|MeatHalal=0|Comment=No dairy products}}
{{AttendeeBBQ|Attendee=sandâh|Meat=1|Vega=0|Fish=0|MeatGlutenfree=0|MeatHalal=0|Comment=}}
{{AttendeeBBQ|Attendee=denz|Meat=1|Vega=0|Fish=0|MeatGlutenfree=0|MeatHalal=0|Comment=}}
{{AttendeeBBQ|Attendee=wilcoe|Meat=1|Vega=0|Fish=0|MeatGlutenfree=0|MeatHalal=0|Comment=}}
{{AttendeeBBQ|Attendee=Pikachu|Meat=1|Vega=0|Fish=0|MeatGlutenfree=0|MeatHalal=0|Comment=}}
{{AttendeeBBQ|Attendee=Crablab|Meat=1|Vega=0|Fish=0|MeatGlutenfree=0|MeatHalal=0|Comment=No}}
{{AttendeeBBQ|Attendee=Halcyon|Meat=1|Vega=0|Fish=0|MeatGlutenfree=0|MeatHalal=0|Comment=}}
{{AttendeeBBQ|Attendee=redlizard|Meat=1|Vega=0|Fish=0|MeatGlutenfree=0|MeatHalal=0|Comment=Yes}}
{{AttendeeBBQ|Attendee=Renze|Meat=1|Vega=0|Fish=0|MeatGlutenfree=0|MeatHalal=0|Comment=¯\_(ツ)_/¯}}
{{AttendeeBBQ|Attendee=upstar|Meat=0|Vega=1|Fish=0|MeatGlutenfree=0|MeatHalal=0|Comment=No}}
{{AttendeeBBQ|Attendee=Boekenwuurm|Meat=0|Vega=1|Fish=0|MeatGlutenfree=0|MeatHalal=0|Comment=Paars}}
{{AttendeeBBQ|Attendee=DWizzy|Meat=0|Vega=1|Fish=0|MeatGlutenfree=0|MeatHalal=0|Comment=drop table}}
{{AttendeeBBQ|Attendee=IcyPalm|Meat=1|Vega=0|Fish=0|MeatGlutenfree=0|MeatHalal=0|Comment=No}}
{{AttendeeBBQ|Attendee=Peterp|Meat=1|Vega=0|Fish=0|MeatGlutenfree=0|MeatHalal=0|Comment=No}}
{{AttendeeBBQ|Attendee=Commanderredyt|Meat=1|Vega=0|Fish=0|MeatGlutenfree=0|MeatHalal=0|Comment=No}}
{{AttendeeBBQ|Attendee=Aim|Meat=1|Vega=0|Fish=0|MeatGlutenfree=0|MeatHalal=0|Comment=No}}
{{AttendeeBBQ|Attendee=egal|Meat=1|Vega=0|Fish=0|MeatGlutenfree=0|MeatHalal=0|Comment=}}
{{AttendeeBBQ|Attendee=Moem|Meat=0|Vega=0|Fish=1|MeatGlutenfree=0|MeatHalal=0|Comment=Yes!}}
{{AttendeeBBQ|Attendee=Dany|Meat=1|Vega=0|Fish=0|MeatGlutenfree=0|MeatHalal=0|Comment=Will conjure a way to either stay the night or fly home.}}
{{AttendeeBBQ|Attendee=Mack|Meat=1|Vega=0|Fish=0|MeatGlutenfree=0|MeatHalal=0|Comment=no}}
{{AttendeeBBQ|Attendee=Rho|Meat=1|Vega=0|Fish=0|MeatGlutenfree=0|MeatHalal=0|Comment=no}}
{{AttendeeBBQ|Attendee=Mergpijp|Meat=1|Vega=0|Fish=0|MeatGlutenfree=0|MeatHalal=0|Comment=no}}
{{AttendeeBBQ|Attendee=remirk|Meat=0|Vega=1|Fish=0|MeatGlutenfree=0|MeatHalal=0|Comment=}}
{{AttendeeBBQ|Attendee=0xa|Meat=1|Vega=0|Fish=0|MeatGlutenfree=0|MeatHalal=0|Comment=}}
{{AttendeeBBQ|Attendee=Dekkers|Meat=1|Vega=0|Fish=0|MeatGlutenfree=0|MeatHalal=0|Comment=No milk}}
{{AttendeeBBQ|Attendee=AngelM|Meat=1|Vega=0|Fish=0|MeatGlutenfree=0|MeatHalal=0|Comment=No onions (also no onion powder) and no milk}}
{{AttendeeBBQ|Attendee=raboof|Meat=0|Vega=1|Fish=0|MeatGlutenfree=0|MeatHalal=0|Comment=}}
{{AttendeeBBQ|Attendee=H.Acker|Meat=1|Vega=0|Fish=0|MeatGlutenfree=0|MeatHalal=0|Comment=}}
{{AttendeeBBQ|Attendee=Glu|Meat=0|Vega=0|Fish=1|MeatGlutenfree=0|MeatHalal=0|Comment=}}
{{AttendeeBBQ|Attendee=Noor|Meat=1|Vega=0|Fish=0|MeatGlutenfree=0|MeatHalal=0|Comment=}}
{{AttendeeBBQ|Attendee=Bix|Meat=1|Vega=0|Fish=0|MeatGlutenfree=0|MeatHalal=0|Comment=}}
{{AttendeeBBQ|Attendee=RiskyFire|Meat=1|Vega=0|Fish=0|MeatGlutenfree=0|MeatHalal=0|Comment=}}
{{AttendeeBBQ|Attendee=Brenno|Meat=1|Vega=0|Fish=0|MeatGlutenfree=0|MeatHalal=0|Kosher=0|Comment=}}
{{AttendeeBBQ|Attendee=Tommyboy|Meat=1|Vega=0|Fish=0|MeatGlutenfree=0|MeatHalal=0|Kosher=0|Comment=}}
{{AttendeeBBQ|Attendee=Phantagom|Meat=1|Vega=0|Fish=0|MeatGlutenfree=0|MeatHalal=0|Kosher=0|Comment=}}
{{AttendeeBBQ|Attendee=CH23|Meat=0|Vega=1|Fish=0|MeatGlutenfree=0|MeatHalal=0|Kosher=0|Comment=Nani}}
{{AttendeeBBQ|Attendee=Strobodov|Meat=1|Vega=0|Fish=0|MeatGlutenfree=0|MeatHalal=0|Kosher=0|Comment=}}
{{AttendeeBBQ|Attendee=aequitas|Meat=1|Vega=0|Fish=0|MeatGlutenfree=0|MeatHalal=0|Kosher=0|Comment=}}
{{AttendeeBBQ|Attendee=Anus|Meat=1|Vega=0|Fish=0|MeatGlutenfree=0|MeatHalal=0|Kosher=0|Comment=}}
{{AttendeeBBQ|Attendee=Rikkert|Meat=1|Vega=0|Fish=0|MeatGlutenfree=0|MeatHalal=0|Kosher=0|Comment=}}
{{AttendeeBBQ|Attendee=Japie1|Meat=1|Vega=0|Fish=0|MeatGlutenfree=0|MeatHalal=0|Kosher=0|Comment=als dat gewenst wordt voor mensen zonder onderdak kan ik een of twee deelnemers
bij ons thuis onderbrengen}}
{{AttendeeBBQ|Attendee=Katzazi|Meat=0|Vega=1|Fish=0|MeatGlutenfree=0|MeatHalal=0|Comment=}}
{{AttendeeBBQ|Attendee=Leyrer|Meat=0|Vega=1|Fish=0|MeatGlutenfree=0|MeatHalal=0|Comment=}}
{{AttendeeBBQ|Attendee=Askarel|Meat=1|Vega=0|Fish=0|MeatGlutenfree=0|MeatHalal=0|Comment=}}
{{AttendeeBBQ|Attendee=Anita|Meat=1|Vega=0|Fish=0|MeatGlutenfree=0|MeatHalal=0|Comment=}}
{{AttendeeBBQ|Attendee=Ashley|Meat=1|Vega=0|Fish=0|MeatGlutenfree=0|MeatHalal=0|Comment=}}
{{AttendeeBBQ|Attendee=Peetz0r|Meat=0|Vega=1|Fish=0|MeatGlutenfree=0|MeatHalal=0|Comment=}}
{{AttendeeBBQ|Attendee=Zeno4ever|Meat=1|Vega=0|Fish=0|MeatGlutenfree=0|MeatHalal=0|Comment=}}
{{AttendeeBBQ|Attendee=Vurpo|Meat=1|Vega=0|Fish=0|MeatGlutenfree=0|MeatHalal=0|Comment=}}
{{AttendeeBBQ|Attendee=Nicolas|Meat=0|Vega=1|Fish=0|MeatGlutenfree=0|MeatHalal=0|Comment=}}
{{AttendeeBBQ|Attendee=ErikTews|Meat=1|Vega=0|Fish=0|MeatGlutenfree=0|MeatHalal=0|Comment=}}
{{AttendeeBBQ|Attendee=por|Meat=1|Vega=0|Fish=0|MeatGlutenfree=0|MeatHalal=0|Comment=}}
{{AttendeeBBQ|Attendee=sab|Meat=1|Vega=0|Fish=0|MeatGlutenfree=0|MeatHalal=0|Comment=Groetjes.}}
{{AttendeeBBQ|Attendee=NinjaLikesCheez|Meat=1|Vega=0|Fish=0|MeatGlutenfree=0|MeatHalal=0|Comment=}}
{{AttendeeBBQ|Attendee=Relocker|Meat=1|Vega=0|Fish=0|MeatGlutenfree=0|MeatHalal=0|Comment=}}
{{AttendeeBBQ|Attendee=Bruno|Meat=0|Vega=1|Fish=0|MeatGlutenfree=0|MeatHalal=0|Comment=ヽ(*・ω・)ﾉ}}
{{AttendeeBBQ|Attendee=K4t0|Meat=0|Vega=0|Fish=1|MeatGlutenfree=0|MeatHalal=0|Comment=}}
{{AttendeeBBQ|Attendee=Scrumpy|Meat=1|Vega=0|Fish=0|MeatGlutenfree=0|MeatHalal=0|Comment=}}
{{AttendeeBBQ|Attendee=koffiepot|Meat=1|Vega=0|Fish=0|MeatGlutenfree=0|MeatHalal=0|Comment=}}
{{AttendeeBBQ|Attendee=PsychiC|Meat=1|Vega=0|Fish=0|MeatGlutenfree=0|MeatHalal=0|Comment=Zuid Reprezent je weet tog }}
{{AttendeeBBQ|Attendee=SA007|Meat=1|Vega=0|Fish=0|MeatGlutenfree=0|MeatHalal=0|Comment=}}
{{AttendeeBBQ|Attendee=Ming|Meat=1|Vega=0|Fish=0|MeatGlutenfree=0|MeatHalal=0|Comment=}}
{{AttendeeBBQ|Attendee=flimpie|Meat=1|Vega=0|Fish=0|MeatGlutenfree=0|MeatHalal=0|Comment=}}
{{AttendeeBBQ|Attendee=NelusTheNerd|Meat=1|Vega=0|Fish=0|MeatGlutenfree=0|MeatHalal=0|Comment=}}
{{AttendeeBBQ|Attendee=RickZ|Meat=0|Vega=1|Fish=0|MeatGlutenfree=0|MeatHalal=0|Comment=Meerijden is mogelijk (omgeving Leiden), ga rond 16.00 uur weg. Terugrijden ook (ga rond 23.59 uur naar huis).}}
{{AttendeeBBQ|Attendee=IPoAC|Meat=1|Vega=0|Fish=0|MeatGlutenfree=0|MeatHalal=0|Comment=Travelling by train from Groningen.}}
{{AttendeeBBQ|Attendee=Nefie|Meat=1|Vega=0|Fish=0|MeatGlutenfree=0|MeatHalal=0|Comment=}}
{{AttendeeBBQ|Attendee=Pokon|Meat=0|Vega=1|Fish=0|MeatGlutenfree=0|MeatHalal=0|Comment=}}
{{AttendeeBBQ|Attendee=Ranzbak|Meat=0|Vega=1|Fish=0|MeatGlutenfree=0|MeatHalal=0|Comment=}}
{{AttendeeBBQ|Attendee=Uglyhack|Meat=0|Vega=1|Fish=0|MeatGlutenfree=0|MeatHalal=0|Comment=None}}
{{AttendeeBBQ|Attendee=rancid_raccoon|Meat=0|Vega=1|Fish=0|MeatGlutenfree=0|MeatHalal=0|Comment=None}}
{{AttendeeBBQ|Attendee=Michaela|Meat=1|Vega=0|Fish=0|MeatGlutenfree=0|MeatHalal=0|Comment=}}
{{AttendeeBBQ|Attendee=Muse|Meat=1|Vega=0|Fish=0|MeatGlutenfree=0|MeatHalal=0|Comment=}}
{{AttendeeBBQ|Attendee=riichard|Meat=0|Vega=1|Fish=0|MeatGlutenfree=0|MeatHalal=0|Comment=}}
{{AttendeeBBQ|Attendee=Juerd|Meat=1|Vega=0|Fish=0|MeatGlutenfree=0|MeatHalal=0|Comment=Really hoping for proper ventilation}}
{{AttendeeBBQ|Attendee=BugBlue|Meat=1|Vega=0|Fish=0|MeatGlutenfree=0|MeatHalal=0|Comment=}}
{{AttendeeBBQ|Attendee=Lenneke|Meat=1|Vega=0|Fish=0|MeatGlutenfree=0|MeatHalal=0|Comment=}}
{{AttendeeBBQ|Attendee=Fhp|Meat=1|Vega=0|Fish=0|MeatGlutenfree=0|MeatHalal=0|Comment=}}
{{AttendeeBBQ|Attendee=FJW|Meat=0|Vega=0|Fish=1|MeatGlutenfree=0|MeatHalal=0|Comment=}}
{{AttendeeBBQ|Attendee=Halcyon|Meat=1|Vega=0|Fish=0|MeatGlutenfree=0|MeatHalal=0|Comment=}}
{{AttendeeBBQ|Attendee=h4ck3r_por|Meat=1|Vega=0|Fish=0|MeatGlutenfree=0|MeatHalal=0|Comment=No}}
{{AttendeeBBQ|Attendee=ah-nuke|Meat=1|Vega=0|Fish=0|MeatGlutenfree=0|MeatHalal=0|Comment=No}}
{{AttendeeBBQ|Attendee=AK47|Meat=1|Vega=0|Fish=0|MeatGlutenfree=0|MeatHalal=0|Comment=No}}
{{AttendeeBBQ|Attendee=manduca|Meat=1|Vega=0|Fish=0|MeatGlutenfree=0|MeatHalal=0|Comment=No}}
{{AttendeeBBQ|Attendee=Yoshi|Meat=1|Vega=0|Fish=0|MeatGlutenfree=0|MeatHalal=0|Comment=No}}
{{AttendeeBBQ|Attendee=Thomas-pikachu|Meat=0|Vega=1|Fish=0|MeatGlutenfree=0|MeatHalal=0|Comment=No}}
{{AttendeeBBQ|Attendee=Pbx|Meat=1|Vega=0|Fish=0|MeatGlutenfree=0|MeatHalal=0|Comment=No}}
|-
! Subtotal
! {{#ask:[[-Has subobject::{{FULLPAGENAME}}]]|?AttendeeCountVega|limit=999|format=sum}}
! {{#ask:[[-Has subobject::{{FULLPAGENAME}}]]|?AttendeeCountMeat|limit=999|format=sum}}
! {{#ask:[[-Has subobject::{{FULLPAGENAME}}]]|?AttendeeCountFish|limit=999|format=sum}}
! {{#ask:[[-Has subobject::{{FULLPAGENAME}}]]|?AttendeeCountMeatGlutenfree|limit=999|format=sum}}
! {{#ask:[[-Has subobject::{{FULLPAGENAME}}]]|?AttendeeCountMeatHalal|limit=999|format=sum}}
!
|-
! Total
! colspan=5 | {{#ask:[[-Has subobject::{{FULLPAGENAME}}]]|?AttendeeCountVega|?AttendeeCountMeat|?AttendeeCountFish|?AttendeeCountMeatGlutenfree|?AttendeeCountMeatHalal|?AttendeeCountMeatKosher|limit=999|format=sum}}
!
|}

== COVID ==
Please do a rapid antigen test (dutch: zelftest) before attending. Winter is coming, and we have seen how that worked the last few years. We will monitor the situation to see if more is needed closer to November 19th.

== Drinks? ==
I still have some beer ([https://www.bocq.be/en/#biere-blanche-de-namur Blanche de Namur]) and 0.0 Beer ([https://www.budels.nl/non-alcoholic-beers Budels Hopped 0.0 (bottom of page)]). I could be convinced to bring some. [[User:Denz|denz]] ([[User talk:Denz|talk]]) 17:00, 27 September 2022 (CEST)

== Carpool? ==
=== Looking for a ride ===

{| class="wikitable"
|-
! Who !! From where (to party) !! To where (from party) !! Leaving when?
|-
| [[User:Pwuts]] || Delft || Delft or Leiderdorp || Not before the party ends :)
|-
| [[User:Hoxolotl]] || Almelo <-> Elst after 15:00 || Enschede or Trainstations Elst <-> Enschede || Depending on transport
|-
| [[User:Renze]] || Enschede || Enschede ||
|-
| [[User:CH23]] || [[User:Pwuts]] || [[User:Pwuts]] || Coincidentally going same direction as [[User:Pwuts]]
|-
| [[User:Bruno]] || Brussels or a train station on a direct line from Brussels || Brussels or a train station on a direct line from Brussels || I would like to help for the Buildup and clean up, if not possible, I will take the train.
|-
|}

=== Offering a ride ===
{| class="wikitable"
|-
! Who !! From where (to party) !! Arriving when?!! To where (from party) !! Leaving when? !! Comment
|-
| [[User:Hp197|Hp197]] || (provincie) Utrecht || ||(provincie) Utrecht || last ||
|-
| [[User:Netsmurf|Netsmurf]] || Alkmaar/Amsterdam || first ||Alkmaar/Amsterdam || last ||
|-
| [[User:IcyPalm|IcyPalm]] || Groningen || Planning around 11:00 || Groningen || TBD ||
|-
| [[User:Askarel|Askarel]] || Brussels or Thieu (depending on amount of passengers) || Planning around 11:00 || Brussels or Thieu || TBD || If more than two passengers are interested, i take my camper instead of the car.
|-
| [[User:RickZ|RickZ]] || (Omgeving) Leiden || Planning around 16:00 || (Omgeving) Leiden || Thinking 23:59 ||
|-
| [[User:Winko|Winko]] || (Omgeving) Leiden || Planning around 11:00 || (Omgeving) Leiden || Thinking 23:59 || Have space suit, will travel! I will bring a towel as a towel has a an immense psychological value.
|-
| [[User:SynQ|SynQ]] || (Omgeving) Dordrecht || Planning around 14:00 || (omgeving) Dordrecht || After midnight not much later || Vito fits 8 besides myself
|-
| [[User:Halcyon|Halcyon]] || CampZone Winter (vakantiepark Prinsenmeer) || Later afternoon || CampZone Winter (vakantiepark Prinsenmeer) || Before midnight || 3 extra seats
|-
| [[User:Xenomatrix|Xenomatrix]] || Amersfoort Central Station ( Utrecht, Hilversum )|| Later afternoon || Amersfoort ( Utrecht, Hilversum ) || TBD || Call +31 33 476 8018 to agree details, ask for Ruben.

|}

== Planning ==

* Location: Fixed
* Food: Fixed
* Toilet: Fixed
* Sound: Fixed
* Balloons: Fixed
* Tables, chairs: Fixed
* Nice Lights: Fixed
* Nice Lights deco team: todo
* Banners: @ Hack42
* Ambient Lights: In progress (Stitch)
* Drinks: in proggess(netsmurf)
* Display on building: in progress
* Projector: In progress (Stitch)
* Lunch: In progress (stitch)
* CO2-sensors: ? (Juerd will bring a few Operames but will probably be late)
* COVID self-tests: ? (Juerd will bring the leftovers from the MCH stash but will probably be late)

Afterparty

2022-11-19T01:52:11Z

Juerd:

Afterparty

2022-11-16T20:27:11Z

Juerd: /* Attending the afterparty */

{{Meeting
|Name=Afterparty
|StartDate=2022/11/19
|EndDate=2022/11/20
|Where=Industrieweg Oost 7b, 6662 NE Elst , The Netherlands
}}

[[image:mchafterparty.png|thumb|right|450px|The poster for the MCH2022 afterparty, as usually high quality design has prevailed]]

'''The MCH2022 afterparty is for everyone who made MCH2022 possible: all orga, angels, friends, secret angels, everyone who helped or want to help in the future and so on.
'''

== Location ==
The afterparty will take place in Elst, because it is close to the German border. It is in the GKS ICT Solutions building, at Industrieweg Oost 7b in Elst. Parking avaidable around the building. A train station is at 15 minutes walking distance.

== Travel ==

=== Car ===
Parking spots are available around the venue. There's basically infinite parking space, so if you can walk an infinite distance it will be fine.

=== Train / Public transport ===
The venue is located almost next to a [https://www.ns.nl/stationsinformatie/est/elst railway station in Elst]. Trains run up until [https://www.ns.nl/en/journeyplanner/#/?vertrek=Elst&vertrektype=treinstation&aankomst=Utrecht%20Centraal&aankomsttype=treinstation&type=vertrek&tijd=2022-11-19T23:30&firstMileModality=PUBLIC_TRANSPORT&lastMileModality=PUBLIC_TRANSPORT&entireTripModality=OWN_CAR&disabledTransportModalities=&context=arnu%7CfromStation%3D8400207%7CtoStation%3D8400621%7CplannedFromTime%3D2022-11-20T01:56:00%2B01:00%7CplannedArrivalTime%3D2022-11-20T02:42:00%2B01:00%7CexcludeHighSpeedTrains%3Dfalse%7CsearchForAccessibleTrip%3Dfalse%7CaddChangeTime%3D0&ritnummers=23406 01:56]. Since Elst is very close to Arhnem, there is always an option for a carpool to the city. They start running _really_ early in the morning as well... so [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hHkKJfcBXcw trains are your friends]. <br />
Note that due to scheduled maintenance the train schedule might be adjusted that weekend for those to/from Utrecht.

== Program ==
Not final at all

=== Saturday ===
* 11:00 Buildup and idling
* 12:00 Lunch
* 13:37 Doors open, preparty
* 16:00 Party
* 18:00 Food
* 00:00 Continuous party

=== Sunday ===
* 12:00 Brunch + Start Cleanup
* ??:?? Food stuffs is picked up

== Attending the afterparty ==

If you've been an angel, orga or feel connected to organizing the event, please come! By listing yourself here you'll let us know how many people to expect for food :). If you're wondering about the costs, there will be none.

Please choose '''the one option that suits you best''' in the table below:

{| class="wikitable sortable"
|-
! Name !! Vega !! Meat !! Fish !! MeatGlutenfree !! MeatHalal !! Comment
|-
{{AttendeeBBQ|Attendee=Stitch|Meat=1|Vega=0|Fish=0|MeatGlutenfree=0|MeatHalal=0|Comment=No}}
{{AttendeeBBQ|Attendee=Rizoom|Meat=0|Vega=1|Fish=0|MeatGlutenfree=0|MeatHalal=0|Comment=No}}
{{AttendeeBBQ|Attendee=Martian|Meat=1|Vega=0|Fish=0|MeatGlutenfree=0|MeatHalal=0|Comment=No}}
{{AttendeeBBQ|Attendee=Coco|Meat=1|Vega=0|Fish=0|MeatGlutenfree=0|MeatHalal=0|Comment=No}}
{{AttendeeBBQ|Attendee=Pwuts|Meat=0|Vega=0|Fish=1|MeatGlutenfree=0|MeatHalal=0|Comment=No}}
{{AttendeeBBQ|Attendee=cmpxchg|Meat=1|Vega=0|Fish=0|MeatGlutenfree=0|MeatHalal=0|Comment=No}}
{{AttendeeBBQ|Attendee=sirgoofy|Meat=1|Vega=0|Fish=0|MeatGlutenfree=0|MeatHalal=0|Comment=No}}
{{AttendeeBBQ|Attendee=konmei|Meat=1|Vega=0|Fish=0|MeatGlutenfree=0|MeatHalal=0|Comment=No}}
{{AttendeeBBQ|Attendee=Robin|Meat=1|Vega=0|Fish=0|MeatGlutenfree=0|MeatHalal=0|Comment=No}}
{{AttendeeBBQ|Attendee=Knorrie|Meat=1|Vega=0|Fish=0|MeatGlutenfree=0|MeatHalal=0|Comment=No limit}}
{{AttendeeBBQ|Attendee=Twi|Meat=1|Vega=0|Fish=0|MeatGlutenfree=0|MeatHalal=0|Comment=No}}
{{AttendeeBBQ|Attendee=phjl|Meat=0|Vega=1|Fish=1|MeatGlutenfree=0|MeatHalal=0|Comment=No}}
{{AttendeeBBQ|Attendee=Loppermann|Meat=1|Vega=0|Fish=0|MeatGlutenfree=0|MeatHalal=0|Comment=No}}
{{AttendeeBBQ|Attendee=Firewall|Meat=0|Vega=0|Fish=1|MeatGlutenfree=0|MeatHalal=0|Comment=No}}
{{AttendeeBBQ|Attendee=Hoxolotl|Meat=0|Vega=0|Fish=1|MeatGlutenfree=0|MeatHalal=0|Comment=No}}
{{AttendeeBBQ|Attendee=Hp197|Meat=1|Vega=0|Fish=0|MeatGlutenfree=0|MeatHalal=0|Comment=No}}
{{AttendeeBBQ|Attendee=Winko|Meat=1|Vega=0|Fish=0|MeatGlutenfree=0|MeatHalal=0|Comment=No}}
{{AttendeeBBQ|Attendee=Hobbybob|Meat=1|Vega=0|Fish=0|MeatGlutenfree=0|MeatHalal=0|Comment=No}}
{{AttendeeBBQ|Attendee=Xesxen|Meat=1|Vega=0|Fish=0|MeatGlutenfree=0|MeatHalal=0|Comment=No}}
{{AttendeeBBQ|Attendee=Eightdot|Meat=1|Vega=0|Fish=0|MeatGlutenfree=0|MeatHalal=0|Comment=No}}
{{AttendeeBBQ|Attendee=Xenomatrix|Meat=1|Vega=0|Fish=0|MeatGlutenfree=0|MeatHalal=0|Comment=No}}
{{AttendeeBBQ|Attendee=Netsmurf|Meat=1|Vega=0|Fish=0|MeatGlutenfree=0|MeatHalal=0|Comment=No}}
{{AttendeeBBQ|Attendee=SynQ|Meat=1|Vega=0|Fish=0|MeatGlutenfree=0|MeatHalal=0|Comment=I have there now already sin in. First comment!}}
{{AttendeeBBQ|Attendee=hvwees|Meat=0|Vega=0|Fish=0|MeatGlutenfree=1|MeatHalal=0|Comment=No dairy products}}
{{AttendeeBBQ|Attendee=sandâh|Meat=1|Vega=0|Fish=0|MeatGlutenfree=0|MeatHalal=0|Comment=}}
{{AttendeeBBQ|Attendee=denz|Meat=1|Vega=0|Fish=0|MeatGlutenfree=0|MeatHalal=0|Comment=}}
{{AttendeeBBQ|Attendee=wilcoe|Meat=1|Vega=0|Fish=0|MeatGlutenfree=0|MeatHalal=0|Comment=}}
{{AttendeeBBQ|Attendee=Pikachu|Meat=1|Vega=0|Fish=0|MeatGlutenfree=0|MeatHalal=0|Comment=}}
{{AttendeeBBQ|Attendee=Chrisha|Meat=1|Vega=0|Fish=0|MeatGlutenfree=0|MeatHalal=0|Comment=}}
{{

{{AttendeeBBQ|Attendee=Crablab|Meat=1|Vega=0|Fish=0|MeatGlutenfree=0|MeatHalal=0|Comment=No}}
{{AttendeeBBQ|Attendee=Halcyon|Meat=1|Vega=0|Fish=0|MeatGlutenfree=0|MeatHalal=0|Comment=}}
{{AttendeeBBQ|Attendee=redlizard|Meat=1|Vega=0|Fish=0|MeatGlutenfree=0|MeatHalal=0|Comment=Yes}}
{{AttendeeBBQ|Attendee=Renze|Meat=1|Vega=0|Fish=0|MeatGlutenfree=0|MeatHalal=0|Comment=¯\_(ツ)_/¯}}
{{AttendeeBBQ|Attendee=upstar|Meat=0|Vega=1|Fish=0|MeatGlutenfree=0|MeatHalal=0|Comment=No}}
{{AttendeeBBQ|Attendee=Boekenwuurm|Meat=0|Vega=1|Fish=0|MeatGlutenfree=0|MeatHalal=0|Comment=Paars}}
{{AttendeeBBQ|Attendee=DWizzy|Meat=0|Vega=1|Fish=0|MeatGlutenfree=0|MeatHalal=0|Comment=drop table}}
{{AttendeeBBQ|Attendee=IcyPalm|Meat=1|Vega=0|Fish=0|MeatGlutenfree=0|MeatHalal=0|Comment=No}}
{{AttendeeBBQ|Attendee=Peterp|Meat=1|Vega=0|Fish=0|MeatGlutenfree=0|MeatHalal=0|Comment=No}}
{{AttendeeBBQ|Attendee=Commanderredyt|Meat=1|Vega=0|Fish=0|MeatGlutenfree=0|MeatHalal=0|Comment=No}}
{{AttendeeBBQ|Attendee=Aim|Meat=1|Vega=0|Fish=0|MeatGlutenfree=0|MeatHalal=0|Comment=No}}
{{AttendeeBBQ|Attendee=egal|Meat=1|Vega=0|Fish=0|MeatGlutenfree=0|MeatHalal=0|Comment=}}
{{AttendeeBBQ|Attendee=Moem|Meat=0|Vega=0|Fish=1|MeatGlutenfree=0|MeatHalal=0|Comment=Yes!}}
{{AttendeeBBQ|Attendee=Dany|Meat=1|Vega=0|Fish=0|MeatGlutenfree=0|MeatHalal=0|Comment=Will conjure a way to either stay the night or fly home.}}
{{AttendeeBBQ|Attendee=Mack|Meat=1|Vega=0|Fish=0|MeatGlutenfree=0|MeatHalal=0|Comment=no}}
{{AttendeeBBQ|Attendee=Mergpijp|Meat=1|Vega=0|Fish=0|MeatGlutenfree=0|MeatHalal=0|Comment=no}}
{{AttendeeBBQ|Attendee=remirk|Meat=0|Vega=1|Fish=0|MeatGlutenfree=0|MeatHalal=0|Comment=}}
{{AttendeeBBQ|Attendee=0xa|Meat=1|Vega=0|Fish=0|MeatGlutenfree=0|MeatHalal=0|Comment=}}
{{AttendeeBBQ|Attendee=Dekkers|Meat=1|Vega=0|Fish=0|MeatGlutenfree=0|MeatHalal=0|Comment=No milk}}
{{AttendeeBBQ|Attendee=AngelM|Meat=1|Vega=0|Fish=0|MeatGlutenfree=0|MeatHalal=0|Comment=No onions (also no onion powder) and no milk}}
{{AttendeeBBQ|Attendee=raboof|Meat=0|Vega=1|Fish=0|MeatGlutenfree=0|MeatHalal=0|Comment=}}
{{AttendeeBBQ|Attendee=H.Acker|Meat=1|Vega=0|Fish=0|MeatGlutenfree=0|MeatHalal=0|Comment=}}
{{AttendeeBBQ|Attendee=Glu|Meat=0|Vega=0|Fish=1|MeatGlutenfree=0|MeatHalal=0|Comment=}}
{{AttendeeBBQ|Attendee=Noor|Meat=1|Vega=0|Fish=0|MeatGlutenfree=0|MeatHalal=0|Comment=}}
{{AttendeeBBQ|Attendee=Bix|Meat=1|Vega=0|Fish=0|MeatGlutenfree=0|MeatHalal=0|Comment=}}
{{AttendeeBBQ|Attendee=RiskyFire|Meat=1|Vega=0|Fish=0|MeatGlutenfree=0|MeatHalal=0|Comment=}}
{{AttendeeBBQ|Attendee=Brenno|Meat=1|Vega=0|Fish=0|MeatGlutenfree=0|MeatHalal=0|Kosher=0|Comment=}}
{{AttendeeBBQ|Attendee=Tommyboy|Meat=1|Vega=0|Fish=0|MeatGlutenfree=0|MeatHalal=0|Kosher=0|Comment=}}
{{AttendeeBBQ|Attendee=Phantagom|Meat=1|Vega=0|Fish=0|MeatGlutenfree=0|MeatHalal=0|Kosher=0|Comment=}}
{{AttendeeBBQ|Attendee=CH23|Meat=0|Vega=1|Fish=0|MeatGlutenfree=0|MeatHalal=0|Kosher=0|Comment=Nani}}
{{AttendeeBBQ|Attendee=Strobodov|Meat=1|Vega=0|Fish=0|MeatGlutenfree=0|MeatHalal=0|Kosher=0|Comment=}}
{{AttendeeBBQ|Attendee=aequitas|Meat=1|Vega=0|Fish=0|MeatGlutenfree=0|MeatHalal=0|Kosher=0|Comment=}}
{{AttendeeBBQ|Attendee=Anus|Meat=1|Vega=0|Fish=0|MeatGlutenfree=0|MeatHalal=0|Kosher=0|Comment=}}
{{AttendeeBBQ|Attendee=Rikkert|Meat=1|Vega=0|Fish=0|MeatGlutenfree=0|MeatHalal=0|Kosher=0|Comment=}}
{{AttendeeBBQ|Attendee=Japie1|Meat=1|Vega=0|Fish=0|MeatGlutenfree=0|MeatHalal=0|Kosher=0|Comment=als dat gewenst wordt voor mensen zonder onderdak kan ik een of twee deelnemers
bij ons thuis onderbrengen}}
{{AttendeeBBQ|Attendee=Katzazi|Meat=0|Vega=1|Fish=0|MeatGlutenfree=0|MeatHalal=0|Comment=}}
{{AttendeeBBQ|Attendee=Leyrer|Meat=0|Vega=1|Fish=0|MeatGlutenfree=0|MeatHalal=0|Comment=}}
{{AttendeeBBQ|Attendee=Askarel|Meat=1|Vega=0|Fish=0|MeatGlutenfree=0|MeatHalal=0|Comment=}}
{{AttendeeBBQ|Attendee=Anita|Meat=1|Vega=0|Fish=0|MeatGlutenfree=0|MeatHalal=0|Comment=}}
{{AttendeeBBQ|Attendee=Ashley|Meat=1|Vega=0|Fish=0|MeatGlutenfree=0|MeatHalal=0|Comment=}}
{{AttendeeBBQ|Attendee=Peetz0r|Meat=0|Vega=1|Fish=0|MeatGlutenfree=0|MeatHalal=0|Comment=}}
{{AttendeeBBQ|Attendee=Zeno4ever|Meat=1|Vega=0|Fish=0|MeatGlutenfree=0|MeatHalal=0|Comment=}}
{{AttendeeBBQ|Attendee=Vurpo|Meat=1|Vega=0|Fish=0|MeatGlutenfree=0|MeatHalal=0|Comment=}}
{{AttendeeBBQ|Attendee=Nicolas|Meat=0|Vega=1|Fish=0|MeatGlutenfree=0|MeatHalal=0|Comment=}}
{{AttendeeBBQ|Attendee=ErikTews|Meat=1|Vega=0|Fish=0|MeatGlutenfree=0|MeatHalal=0|Comment=}}
{{AttendeeBBQ|Attendee=por|Meat=1|Vega=0|Fish=0|MeatGlutenfree=0|MeatHalal=0|Comment=}}
{{AttendeeBBQ|Attendee=sab|Meat=1|Vega=0|Fish=0|MeatGlutenfree=0|MeatHalal=0|Comment=Groetjes.}}
{{AttendeeBBQ|Attendee=NinjaLikesCheez|Meat=1|Vega=0|Fish=0|MeatGlutenfree=0|MeatHalal=0|Comment=}}
{{AttendeeBBQ|Attendee=Relocker|Meat=1|Vega=0|Fish=0|MeatGlutenfree=0|MeatHalal=0|Comment=}}
{{AttendeeBBQ|Attendee=Bruno|Meat=0|Vega=1|Fish=0|MeatGlutenfree=0|MeatHalal=0|Comment=ヽ(*・ω・)ﾉ}}
{{AttendeeBBQ|Attendee=K4t0|Meat=0|Vega=0|Fish=1|MeatGlutenfree=0|MeatHalal=0|Comment=}}
{{AttendeeBBQ|Attendee=Scrumpy|Meat=1|Vega=0|Fish=0|MeatGlutenfree=0|MeatHalal=0|Comment=}}
{{AttendeeBBQ|Attendee=koffiepot|Meat=1|Vega=0|Fish=0|MeatGlutenfree=0|MeatHalal=0|Comment=}}
{{AttendeeBBQ|Attendee=PsychiC|Meat=1|Vega=0|Fish=0|MeatGlutenfree=0|MeatHalal=0|Comment=Zuid Reprezent je weet tog }}
{{AttendeeBBQ|Attendee=SA007|Meat=1|Vega=0|Fish=0|MeatGlutenfree=0|MeatHalal=0|Comment=}}
{{AttendeeBBQ|Attendee=Ming|Meat=1|Vega=0|Fish=0|MeatGlutenfree=0|MeatHalal=0|Comment=}}
{{AttendeeBBQ|Attendee=flimpie|Meat=1|Vega=0|Fish=0|MeatGlutenfree=0|MeatHalal=0|Comment=}}
{{AttendeeBBQ|Attendee=NelusTheNerd|Meat=1|Vega=0|Fish=0|MeatGlutenfree=0|MeatHalal=0|Comment=}}
{{AttendeeBBQ|Attendee=RickZ|Meat=0|Vega=1|Fish=0|MeatGlutenfree=0|MeatHalal=0|Comment=Meerijden is mogelijk (omgeving Leiden), ga rond 16.00 uur weg. Terugrijden ook (ga rond 23.59 uur naar huis).}}
{{AttendeeBBQ|Attendee=IPoAC|Meat=1|Vega=0|Fish=0|MeatGlutenfree=0|MeatHalal=0|Comment=Travelling by train from Groningen.}}
{{AttendeeBBQ|Attendee=Nefie|Meat=1|Vega=0|Fish=0|MeatGlutenfree=0|MeatHalal=0|Comment=}}
{{AttendeeBBQ|Attendee=Pokon|Meat=0|Vega=1|Fish=0|MeatGlutenfree=0|MeatHalal=0|Comment=}}
{{AttendeeBBQ|Attendee=Ranzbak|Meat=0|Vega=1|Fish=0|MeatGlutenfree=0|MeatHalal=0|Comment=}}
{{AttendeeBBQ|Attendee=Uglyhack|Meat=0|Vega=1|Fish=0|MeatGlutenfree=0|MeatHalal=0|Comment=None}}
{{AttendeeBBQ|Attendee=rancid_raccoon|Meat=0|Vega=1|Fish=0|MeatGlutenfree=0|MeatHalal=0|Comment=None}}
{{AttendeeBBQ|Attendee=Michaela|Meat=1|Vega=0|Fish=0|MeatGlutenfree=0|MeatHalal=0|Comment=}}
{{AttendeeBBQ|Attendee=Muse|Meat=1|Vega=0|Fish=0|MeatGlutenfree=0|MeatHalal=0|Comment=}}
{{AttendeeBBQ|Attendee=riichard|Meat=0|Vega=1|Fish=0|MeatGlutenfree=0|MeatHalal=0|Comment=}}
{{AttendeeBBQ|Attendee=Juerd|Meat=1|Vega=0|Fish=0|MeatGlutenfree=0|MeatHalal=0|Comment=Really hoping for proper ventilation}}
|-
! Subtotal
! {{#ask:[[-Has subobject::{{FULLPAGENAME}}]]|?AttendeeCountVega|limit=999|format=sum}}
! {{#ask:[[-Has subobject::{{FULLPAGENAME}}]]|?AttendeeCountMeat|limit=999|format=sum}}
! {{#ask:[[-Has subobject::{{FULLPAGENAME}}]]|?AttendeeCountFish|limit=999|format=sum}}
! {{#ask:[[-Has subobject::{{FULLPAGENAME}}]]|?AttendeeCountMeatGlutenfree|limit=999|format=sum}}
! {{#ask:[[-Has subobject::{{FULLPAGENAME}}]]|?AttendeeCountMeatHalal|limit=999|format=sum}}
!
|-
! Total
! colspan=5 | {{#ask:[[-Has subobject::{{FULLPAGENAME}}]]|?AttendeeCountVega|?AttendeeCountMeat|?AttendeeCountFish|?AttendeeCountMeatGlutenfree|?AttendeeCountMeatHalal|?AttendeeCountMeatKosher|limit=999|format=sum}}
!
|}

== COVID ==
Please do a rapid antigen test (dutch: zelftest) before attending. Winter is coming, and we have seen how that worked the last few years. We will monitor the situation to see if more is needed closer to November 19th.

== Drinks? ==
I still have some beer ([https://www.bocq.be/en/#biere-blanche-de-namur Blanche de Namur]) and 0.0 Beer ([https://www.budels.nl/non-alcoholic-beers Budels Hopped 0.0 (bottom of page)]). I could be convinced to bring some. [[User:Denz|denz]] ([[User talk:Denz|talk]]) 17:00, 27 September 2022 (CEST)

== Carpool? ==
=== Looking for a ride ===

{| class="wikitable"
|-
! Who !! From where (to party) !! To where (from party) !! Leaving when?
|-
| [[User:Pwuts]] || Delft || Delft or Leiderdorp || Not before the party ends :)
|-
| [[User:Hoxolotl]] || Almelo <-> Elst after 15:00 || Enschede or Trainstations Elst <-> Enschede || Depending on transport
|-
| [[User:Renze]] || Enschede || Enschede ||
|-
| [[User:CH23]] || [[User:Pwuts]] || [[User:Pwuts]] || Coincidentally going same direction as [[User:Pwuts]]
|-
| [[User:Bruno]] || Brussels or a train station on a direct line from Brussels || Brussels or a train station on a direct line from Brussels || I would like to help for the Buildup and clean up, if not possible, I will take the train.
|-
|}

=== Offering a ride ===
{| class="wikitable"
|-
! Who !! From where (to party) !! Arriving when?!! To where (from party) !! Leaving when? !! Comment
|-
| [[User:Hp197|Hp197]] || (provincie) Utrecht || ||(provincie) Utrecht || last ||
|-
| [[User:Netsmurf|Netsmurf]] || Alkmaar/Amsterdam || first ||Alkmaar/Amsterdam || last ||
|-
| [[User:IcyPalm|IcyPalm]] || Groningen || Planning around 11:00 || Groningen || TBD ||
|-
| [[User:Askarel|Askarel]] || Brussels or Thieu (depending on amount of passengers) || Planning around 11:00 || Brussels or Thieu || TBD || If more than two passengers are interested, i take my camper instead of the car.
|-
| [[User:RickZ|RickZ]] || (Omgeving) Leiden || Planning around 16:00 || (Omgeving) Leiden || Thinking 23:59 ||
|-
|}

== Planning ==

* Location: Fixed
* Food: Fixed
* Toilet: Fixed
* Sound: Fixed
* Balloons: Fixed
* Tables, chairs: Fixed
* Nice Lights: Fixed
* Nice Lights deco team: todo
* Banners: @ Hack42
* Ambient Lights: In progress (Stitch)
* Drinks: in proggess(netsmurf)
* Display on building: in progress
* Projector: In progress (Stitch)
* Lunch: In progress (stitch)

Feedback

2022-08-02T12:17:21Z

Juerd: /* Power */

== Posted reviews, media, blogs/vlogs, photo collections, etc ==

Please post these on the [[memories]] page.

== How to post feedback ==

First of all, let's talk about negativity bias a bit. Please make sure to post a fair balance between positive and negative feedback. Feedback about what went wrong is important, but feedback about what went right is even more important. Do share your negativity, but please be kind and remember we're a bunch of volunteers. To thrive and continue to organize these events, we need a certain amount of positivity, preferably a list of the very specific things you loved and would like to experience again!

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turns into

* Sample text :) -- [[User:Example user|Example user]] ([[User talk:Example user|talk]])

<nowiki>Add a subject if it isn't there yet using == subject==</nowiki>

'''Use the [edit] links next to the individual headings to reduce the likelihood of wiki edit conflicts.'''

== Topics ==

=== General / overall ===

* So happy about the progressive pride and Antifa flag on the tower
* Awesome event again, thanks to everyone who did their part to making it such -- [[User:SK|SK]] ([[User talk:SK|talk]])
* It was fantastic and I am already stoked for the next one! -- [[User:Mosquito|Mosquito]] ([[User talk:Mosquito|talk]])
** +1 Agreement from my side -- [[User:Foorschtbar|Foorschtbar]] ([[User talk:Foorschtbar|talk]])
* I had a great camp overall, it was way more comfortable than I'd expected and things seemed to run smoothly. Being greeted by progressive pride flag on the Orga tent and tower instantly made me feel at ease. -- [[User:Dany|Dany]] ([[User talk:Dany|talk]])
* would be a really good idea to water the ways more often, to prevent the dust. -- [[User:Justelex|Justelex]] ([[User talk:Justelex|talk]])
** I'd be afraid this would quickly turn into mud, and I prefer dust to mud -- [[User:Pinoaffe|Pinoaffe]] ([[User talk:Pinoaffe|talk]])
* It seems that there was so much time spend on nice to haves and to little on must haves resulting in quite a few people beeing totally burned out, I really wonder if its worth it organizing it again next year at this size with this much "consumers" visiting and maybe just going back to a smaller size is nicer, the big presence of sponsors also did not help with this feeling. -- [[User:Erik|Erik]] ([[User talk:Erik|talk]])
** I am not quite sure where you saw those "consumers", especially since that would be quite a high entry price for a consumer (no daytickets and all). As far as I know we didn't finish selling all tickets so it was smaller then expected even. Although I do understand that you are longing for a smaller sized event (there are definitely a couple of those out there), I dearly hope that this event will even grow, since it is quite nice to have more and new people being interested and learning more. Sponsors I am unsure about, since I do know they were a big help in financing the whole event. With the point of being to burned out, that might be a problem of scheduling and volunteering, since there were around ~400 volunteers for the whole event (officially).
* Still amazed by the amount of creativity and community, so many people sharing what they love and are good at -- [[User:Raboof|Raboof]] ([[User talk:Raboof|talk]])

=== Arrival / departure / parking / train shuttle / luggage shuttle ===

* I was surprised twice that empty places in the field were apparently claimed. It was not clear to me that people had staked out places already on the wiki. This would seem to me one of The Most Important Things To Tell People: "whatever is on the wiki wins". Or perhaps abolish that, also fine by me, but in any case be very clear about it. I could also do with an AR app or so that shows me what people claimed :-) -- [[User:Ahu|Ahu]] ([[User talk:Ahu|talk]])
** Next time we should plan some areas for 'those without village', i heard they were planned for this time but they might have gotten lost with the last minute rearranging due to the double booking. -- [[User:Sebastius|Sebastius]] ([[User talk:Sebastius|talk]])
** (moved my feedback here to [[Feedback#Villages]]) -- [[User:Raboof|Raboof]] ([[User talk:Raboof|talk]])
* Last day of the event felt kinda "lost" as people were beginning to tear things down from early on in the day well before the closing event. Was bit of a weird mood/feeling. -- [[User:Rot13|Rot13]] ([[User talk:Rot13|talk]])
** +1 Agreement from my side -- [[User:Foorschtbar|Foorschtbar]] ([[User talk:Foorschtbar|talk]])
** While it is pretty normal for many people to already pack their things on the last day, the problem was certainly exacerbated by the fact that a roundmail on day 4 told all villages that their rented tents had to be "cleaned and empty" no later than 17:30 on day 5. That really gave villages no choice but to tear everything down during daytime on day 5. [[User:PoempelFox|PoempelFox]] ([[User talk:PoempelFox|talk]])
* The parking area was way better then at Sha. A Regular people shuttle on the field with one or two 4+ seater golfcarts would be awesome for pregnant / people that can't walk long distances and so on. (Maybe also on call would be enough) -- [[User:Justelex|Justelex]] ([[User talk:Justelex|talk]])
* "Shuttle goes when it goes" without any indication how long it will take is no option for people who have to catch their train/flight. We had many questions and complaints at the infodesk. A schedule would be great. -- [[User:Sirgoofy|sirgoofy]]
* The shuttle stop changed during the event. It would be great to have a dedicated shuttle stop (with sign and timetable) during the event.
* The payment system for the shuttle was too complicated. We had many questions about buying tickets at the infodesk. People tried to buy tickets in the online shop, but had problems getting their order paid. It would be better to make it free, or allow to pay in cash in the shuttle.

=== Badge ===

* Very well-made and polished badge, really surprised me with the effort put into it and its versatility! [[User:Vurpo|Vurpo]] ([[User talk:Vurpo|talk]]) 21:07, 30 July 2022 (CEST)
** +1 Agreement from my side -- [[User:Foorschtbar|Foorschtbar]] ([[User talk:Foorschtbar|talk]])
* The badge is really nice, but the price of MCH admission is already hindering people we'd like to reach. Perhaps do consider if we really need it. -- [[User:Ahu|Ahu]] ([[User talk:Ahu|talk]])
* Awesome badge, I had a lot of fun tinkering with it during camp and always received helpful advice in the IRC channel. Please keep this project going! [[User:Alxndr|Alxndr]] ([[User talk:Alxndr|talk]])
* The badge is amazing! However, I feel bad that my badges from previous events barely got used and this one is likely to suffer the same fate. For environmental/cost reasons, I kinda wish I could have opted out. Alternately, if there were a way to hand my badge in after the event and know it would be used for educational purposes later on, I would have given it up a heartbeat. -- [[User:HerraBRE|HerraBRE]]
* Really love the badge, it inspired me to try micropython for the first time. Also I find it to be a piece of art, the PCB design is just great. On the other side, I'm also sceptical on the ecological aspects. I fear that many hackers will not use it anymore after the event or even never use it at all. Maybe it would be a good idea to offer badges as an option instead of giving everyone a piece. -- [[User:Cyb3rk41|Cyb3rk41]] ([[User talk:Cyb3rk41|talk]])

=== Bars and food court ===

* The capacity of the food-stands was quite low, which resulted in long waiting times. Not good with hungry kids. [[User:Fhp|Fhp]] ([[User talk:Fhp|talk]])
* Agree with above: low capacity for the commercial food stands. They also didn't seem to grasp the concept of 'lunch'. I expected them to be up and running around 13.00, but most of them weren't, resulting in even longer lines at the places that were open earlier. -- [[User:Dany|Dany]] ([[User talk:Dany|talk]])
* The food stands I've visited (Wok, Fries) had poor in-person advertising of everything that they were actually selling and how much it cost. -- [[User:Rot13|Rot13]] ([[User talk:Rot13|talk]])
* The Johny Cash Burger was great but mostly I fed on waffles by the awesome C3WOC <3. And of course one can rely on the Italian Hackers' Embassy for excellent pasta. By the way... is there a Spanish or French Embassy with similar services? Would put that on my checklist for the next camp. ;-) Oh and Angel Food was also great and healthy. Didn't miss meat there, eating more veg is better for the environment anyways. Thanks for the opportunity! Conclusion: Wide range, many choices, very good! -- [[User:Mosquito|Mosquito]] ([[User talk:Mosquito|talk]])
* Frietsaus is not Mayo. [[User:MrLinux|MrLinux]]
* The split layout of the bar/food area didn't really work. You couldn't see all in one go, so most people only visited one bar making a huge queue there. -- [[User:Sebastius|Sebastius]] ([[User talk:Sebastius|talk]])
* Coffee vendor people had no idea what they were doing. Literally not knowing what a Latte Machiatto is while it's on their menu. -- [[User:Sebastius|Sebastius]] ([[User talk:Sebastius|talk]])
* Next time get food vendors from several companies instead of using one single source. Yes it's more work to set up but this time the overall quality was not great (but acceptable). -- [[User:Sebastius|Sebastius]] ([[User talk:Sebastius|talk]])
* Next time also get some vendors who do varied meals (every day a different choice, like the vegan place at CCCamp2019) at competitive pricing. -- [[User:Sebastius|Sebastius]] ([[User talk:Sebastius|talk]])
* Next time allow Mecklenborger to also have a food-truck for the general public on camp. -- [[User:Sebastius|Sebastius]] ([[User talk:Sebastius|talk]])
* Overall nice. Might be good to promote villages that have good capacity for selling food as well somehow, to make it more 'integrated'? -- [[User:Raboof|Raboof]] ([[User talk:Raboof|talk]])

=== Buildup and teardown ===

* As one of the persons who collected what felt like a kilometre of Flatterband at teardown, and removed a pile of pegs it was attached to, I would like to thank those buildup angels who didn't sink the pegs below ground level. You made my job a lot easier! :) [[User:Alxndr|Alxndr]] ([[User talk:Alxndr|talk]])
** +1 Agreement from my side -- [[User:Foorschtbar|Foorschtbar]] ([[User talk:Foorschtbar|talk]])

=== COVID19 precautions ===

* Thanks for caring about ventilation. [https://grafana.mch2022.org/d/q9gZutJ7z/mch2022?orgId=1&viewPanel=30&from=1658492800367&to=1658853839068 CO2 meters] and open sides weren't in place during the opening talk, but this was fixed quickly after and I heard the security team kept an eye on the graphs. --[[User:Juerd|Juerd]] ([[User talk:Juerd|talk]]) 20:43, 30 July 2022 (CEST)
* I liked the availability of masks and self tests for those who forgot to bring their own. I've heard about a few dozen people who got infected, but there were probably more. Thanks to the rapid tests and the heroes who chose to isolate, we may have averted a disastrous superspreading event. --[[User:Juerd|Juerd]] ([[User talk:Juerd|talk]]) 22:02, 30 July 2022 (CEST)
** +1 Agreement from my side -- [[User:Foorschtbar|Foorschtbar]] ([[User talk:Foorschtbar|talk]])
** Very much appreciated the easy availability of masks and rapid tests. -- [[User:Rot13|Rot13]] ([[User talk:Rot13|talk]])
* It would have been good to switch from recommended to required mask wearing, at least indoors, once it became clear that "personal responsibility" wasn't working out (even in this community, what a disappointment). [[User:Alxndr|Alxndr]] ([[User talk:Alxndr|talk]])
** Agreeing on all points. Was also a bit disappointed. -- [[User:Rot13|Rot13]] ([[User talk:Rot13|talk]])
** Its quite hard to do that in a country where this is not a rule anymore.
* It was good to request/require mask wearing in the food queue in Heaven. It would have been even better to do it from the very beginning. [[User:Moem|Moem]] ([[User talk:Moem|talk]]) 09:20, 31 July 2022 (CEST)

=== Cohesion ===

* Put your feedback here :)

=== Content / talks / heralds / speakerdesk / AV / recordings ===

* In the end it worked pretty well, but perhaps do ponder having some "known good" presenter laptops/devices available. This has worked very well for other conferences. I used a 200 euro Chromebook with a throwaway google account. -- [[User:Ahu|Ahu]] ([[User talk:Ahu|talk]])
* This is a matter of taste - if you light up the speakers real well, the audience can enjoy a well lighted speaker. But the speaker then often can't see the audience. And during my talks, I love to actually see the audience. This was better in 2017 (at least in Abacus and Battery). -- [[User:Ahu|Ahu]] ([[User talk:Ahu|talk]])
* The speaker desk and the room to work is absolutely ACE. -- [[User:Ahu|Ahu]] ([[User talk:Ahu|talk]])
* Very friendly and helpful people at the speakerdesk and also Heralds and other Angels. Dry running my laptop with the monitor at the Speaker Desk before the talk made me much calmer once I knew that worked. Thank you! -- [[User:Mosquito|Mosquito]] ([[User talk:Mosquito|talk]])
* had the opposite experience: crablab forgot giving me a speaker badge and was not very hospitable "i'd prefer if you bought your mate at the bar" the single time I asked for one in order to work on my slides -- [[User:Fraxinas|Fraxinas]] ([[User talk:Fraxinas|talk]])
* Generally felt welcome as a speaker, thanks! I didn't end up using the speaker area as it felt a bit like a 'fish tank' being so exposed to the main road (but that might be a personal hang-up ;) ) -- [[User:Raboof|Raboof]] ([[User talk:Raboof|talk]])
* It would have been nice to have a more 'integrated' programme containing both the 'curated' content and the 'self-organized' sessions. It was nice that some self-organized sessions were added to https://program.mch2022.org but it'd be even nicer to have that 'direct' somehow -- [[User:Raboof|Raboof]] ([[User talk:Raboof|talk]])
* It would have been nice to have an officially-recommended app - Giggity worked great on Android, just promoting that more might have been a good start -- [[User:Raboof|Raboof]] ([[User talk:Raboof|talk]])
* It would be nice to cross-link the schedule with the livestreams/recordings better -- [[User:Raboof|Raboof]] ([[User talk:Raboof|talk]])
* Several of the workshop presenters said they would make their presentations available, but the majority is unfindable. I did understand a presentation can be added to the schedule, but it is hard to spot that this has actually been done. Maybe an independent index with such material can be made and material actively requested? -- [[User:M10|M10]] ([[User talk:M10|talk]])

=== CTF ===

* The CTF as a whole was excellent. Really interesting challenges on multiple categories and I still think this is the best CTF I have attended. Even the easy challenges had nice twists to them, no basic "'or 1=1;-- = flag" here. -- [[User:Onja|Onja]]
* Both the competitors and the organizers I chatted with were very nice and passionate. Organizers gave good hints without giving too much away on couple of the challenges when we were stuck. -- [[User:Onja|Onja]]
* There were plenty of beverages to keep us going, hard part was to remember to eat something once in a while.
* Only complaint I have is about the ctf area: the outside tent was mostly more trouble than it was worth with wind trying to blow the whole tent away and the inside got crowded pretty fast. DT lounge area was nice but I'm not 1337 h4x0r enough to sit there 4 days in a row, my back will kill me. :D -- [[User:Onja|Onja]]
* Looking forward to reading challenge writeups (I still want to hear the creators thoughts on Coinflip even though we eventually managed to solve it). Also I agree that Coinflip was one of the tougher challenges, should have been 200 pts (whine, whine). -- [[User:Onja|Onja]]
* Summary: We will definitely be back next time! -- [[User:Onja|Onja]]

=== Decoration / design ===

* Well done all around -- [[User:SK|SK]] ([[User talk:SK|talk]]) 01:07, 31 July 2022 (CEST)
* The design was so colorful and well thought out, it gave team Deco a lot to work with. Great job! [[User:Moem|Moem]] ([[User talk:Moem|talk]]) 09:22, 31 July 2022 (CEST)
** +1 Agreement from my side -- [[User:Foorschtbar|Foorschtbar]] ([[User talk:Foorschtbar|talk]])
* The deco was really cool, I especially liked the UV-reactive strings that gave the illusion of lasers and the super cute felt plants in the Silent Lounge. -- [[User:Dany|Dany]] ([[User talk:Dany|talk]])
* Both design and deco were amazing! Also great that it was available beforehand, including the 'generator', so villages etc could use it in their preparations as well -- [[User:Raboof|Raboof]] ([[User talk:Raboof|talk]])

=== Family / kids ===

* Great vibe at the zone \o/
* Maybe one or two hot water faucets would be useful (for baby care, for dishwashing, etc)
* Sponsors like to party, maybe keep that in mind when planning in the noise gradient
* As someone without kids I love that people feel welcome to bring theirs, and the atmosphere that comes with that. Accidentally ran into the "balloon folding (for adults)" workshop which was hilarious. Great fun. -- [[User:Raboof|Raboof]] ([[User talk:Raboof|talk]])

=== Finance / coins / payments ===

* Payment by card worked mostly well, other than the supermarket not accepting international cards. My main issue was that the payment system was not well enough explained before the actual event! The blog post and wiki page were pretty long and still left me confused about what the actual payment system on the field was going to end up being. Even a simple "TL;DR we will use regular international payment cards with chip/contactless" would have helped me. [[User:Vurpo|Vurpo]] ([[User talk:Vurpo|talk]]) 21:04, 30 July 2022 (CEST)
* I asked at several bars and the food court where I could get the prepaid card for the MCH payment system, but nobody knew, so I ended up using my regular payment card. [[User:Alxndr|Alxndr]] ([[User talk:Alxndr|talk]]
** The MCH payment system only was operational from day 1 (with paper QR codes) and the ability to print them on plastic cards was added later - [[User:Noor|Noor]]
** yeah communication could have been better, the main problem was that most of it was arranged by one single person (never a good idea). Next time we need to find more people who work on the financial/tickets stuff.
* I liked the idea of the cashless QR-code, especially the later upgrade to a "hard card" rather than just a stub of thermal paper. Avoids using the big payment providers and frees one of having to carry around cash. However I would've loved seeing more universal acceptance around the event (for example at the supermarket). -- [[User:Rot13|Rot13]] ([[User talk:Rot13|talk]])
** +1 Agreement from my side. I missed also the acceptance at the Merch stand -- [[User:Foorschtbar|Foorschtbar]] ([[User talk:Foorschtbar|talk]])
* As a foreigner visiting, I was VERY happy that I could use my card to tap and pay almost everywhere. Get the supermarket on board next time and you get a perfect score from me! The QR code system also worked quite well (I took payment at the bar a few times). I was impressed, well done. - [[User:HerraBRE|HerraBRE]]
* Payment with payment cards in combination with PIN code failed. (only contactless worked, until the 50 euro weekly limit was reached.) [[User:MrLinux|MrLinux]]
* The payment system is too complex and impractical for such an event. At the infodesk there were many questions and complaints on the payment system. People were confused about whether their bank card is accepted or wanted to buy QR-codes with their cards. There were many complaints about the complexity of the payment system. Normally, payment on such events is straightforward (give some money, get a drink). I guess this complicated system also restrained people from buying drinks (just a gut feeling from the number of bottles collected on the field by Team BOC). There were also many people complaining that they could not get unused money from the QR codes (because they had to leave early or came too late). -- [[User:Sirgoofy|sirgoofy]]
* The payment system encouraged people not to bring cash, with is a huge issue for villages -- [[User:Sirgoofy|sirgoofy]]
** Many villages rely on donations to cover costs, e.g., for food or parts for workshops, like the Italian Embassy, Millyways, Team Badge, c3woc (waffles), Chaos Post. Donations in cash are straightforward and understandable. Handling cashless donations is complicated (especially for people donating), expensive (i.e., fees), and requires bank accounts (which many villages don't have as they're just a bunch of people and no legal instance).
** Cashless donations would be handy, though. Many international visitors don't have cash.
** It would be great if people could donate using the QR code system (and buy QR codes cashless) -- [[User:Sirgoofy|sirgoofy]]
* The MCH Payment system was a great benefit. Also that a plastic card could be created that was clearly more robust than the QR code on thermal paper.... Unfortunately, the machine took a long time to accept a bill. In addition, it would be nice to be able to recharge cards so that you can get through the camp with a printed card without directly charging one huge amount. -- [[User:j0chen|j0chen]] ([[User talk:j0chen|talk]])
* An ATM would be great next time. My card was declined most of the time, so I reliant on my cash (and an ATM outside of camp) -- [[User:j0chen|j0chen]] ([[User talk:j0chen|talk]])
** Or a possibility to get some cash at a desk or so? Cash needed to be handled anyway for the QR codes -- [[User:Sirgoofy|sirgoofy]]

=== Harbour / Ferry ===

* Loved the ferry service not as much as a shuttle to the other side of the water way, but as a way to enjoy some quiet time and a light breeze to (mentally) recharge away from the event. -- [[User:Rot13|Rot13]] ([[User talk:Rot13|talk]])
* The Ferry Service was great, and especially the operating hours where great. -- [[User:Justelex|Justelex]] ([[User talk:Justelex|talk]]) +1

=== Information / infodesk / wiki ===

* The infodesk should've been open for longer/as long as possible. (background: I've sat on the NOC helpdesk a bunch of times after the last infodesk angles were gone and dealt with quite a few people that were originally looking for the helpdesk; also being able to respond to infodesk calls for longer). -- [[User:Rot13|Rot13]] ([[User talk:Rot13|talk]])
* Would be nice if the wiki was more usable on mobile -- [[User:Raboof|Raboof]] ([[User talk:Raboof|talk]])
* The infodesk should be open earlier, at least starting day 0. It was unfortunate that the furniture was late (w/o desk no infodesk) -- [[User:Sirgoofy|sirgoofy]]

=== Lounges ===

* Silent lounge was very well done. Nicely decorated and people behaving very considerate (i.e. really tried to be silent). No wonder that it was popular to the point where it could've used more pillows. I was worried that people would start camping inside the lounge (similar things happen at congress for example), but that didn't turn out to be true. I've seen plenty of people taking a nap away from the noise of the event, but thankfully nobody started living inside the lounge. -- [[User:Rot13|Rot13]] ([[User talk:Rot13|talk]])
* Besides the silent lounge, I wish there were more places for people, especially for those without a village, to relax in the shade near an Ethernet port and power outlet. In the harbour there was the wood table with tent roof and the bar with a couple of seats, but both away from power outlets. Otherwise, besides the couple of deckchairs, we mostly hard hard wooden benches near the food court without shade (and no power sockets). -- [[User:Rot13|Rot13]] ([[User talk:Rot13|talk]])
** +1 agreed, a few dedicated shaded outdoor spots would've been nice -- [[User:SK|SK]] ([[User talk:SK|talk]])
** +1 I was going to write the same. Seating on the western part of the food court was hardly used because there was no shadow. Everyone was cramped beneath the roof tent in front of the east bar. On previous events there were more public spaces with roofing, sofas, bean bags, power and network. Nice place with hammocks at the speaker desk but also now shadow. Roof tents would also provide shelter in case of rain (as experienced on previous camps).
** +1 I'd enjoy that as well! Perhaps with some way to announce what you're working on to encourage spontaneous conversations? Not sure how that would work though -- [[User:Raboof|Raboof]] ([[User talk:Raboof|talk]])
** +1 A few shady sitting areas for hackers without Village; with sockets and ethernet sockets would have been very pleasant especially in the sunny and warm weather. -- [[User:j0chen|j0chen]] ([[User talk:j0chen|talk]])

=== Merchandise ===

* The designs look great, I'm a fan of the asymmetry and the patterned sleeves. Not being able to go a size up or down from what you ordered online was kind of disappointing. Not a major issue for myself but I know of several people who were sad about this. The [[merch exchange]] is not a great solution, but better than nothing. --[[User:Juerd|Juerd]] ([[User talk:Juerd|talk]]) 20:54, 30 July 2022 (CEST)
** That mostly was the result of not receiving as many units as we ordered, sadly. -- [[User:Sebastius|Sebastius]] ([[User talk:Sebastius|talk]])
* Merch was great: Awesome design and high quality. Preodering saved me from having to stay in a (humongous) line in the heat. -- [[User:Rot13|Rot13]] ([[User talk:Rot13|talk]])
* I absolutely love the hexagonal patterns and diagrams, but the amount of purple/pink was enough to keep me from buying more than a hat (that, and sizes being too big for me). - [[User:Noor|Noor]] ([[User talk:Noor|talk]])
* Nice merch, despite at first not being a fan of the design. Option to preorder is great. -- [[User:SK|SK]] ([[User talk:SK|talk]])
* OK so maybe I'm a dinosaur, but if I'd known that "fitted" was inclusive for "ladies", I wouldn't have ordered a way-too-small T-shirt. Not a complaint really, but maybe that could have been explained better? Help us old farts get with the program! :-D
** 'Fitted' does not mean 'ladies', it means snug and cut to cling to the body, not baggy and loose. I know plenty of gentlemen who prefer that style. [[User:Moem|Moem]] ([[User talk:Moem|talk]])
* Love the zipper design and quality, will be one of my favourite pieces from now on :) Preorder and pickup was easy and a great option to avoid long queues at the merch booth. -- [[User:Cyb3rk41|Cyb3rk41]] ([[User talk:Cyb3rk41|talk]])
* I love how the shirts and hoodies look, but I'm worried about how well they will hold up when being washed. The rainbow looks like it will fall off just like the yellow SHA robot did. You hardly see the SHA shirts being worn anymore... but OHM and even HAR shirts, yes. [[User:Moem|Moem]] ([[User talk:Moem|talk]])
** +1 love the looks but concerned about the large areas (beam/rainbow) as well - those already seemed to have faded a bit from being folded up in a damp tent... -- [[User:Raboof|Raboof]] ([[User talk:Raboof|talk]])

=== Miscellaneous ===

* Swan family was pretty relaxed with all the people and activity, camping out in the middle of the terrain. - [[User:Noor|Noor]] ([[User talk:Noor|talk]]
* It would be nice to have some angel-staffed dishwashing station (with manual rinse and commercial dishwashers) somewhere, to help with saving water and time, and to increase general hygiene (we all know how camp dish cleanliness standards go...) -- [[User:Q3k|Q3k]] ([[User talk:Q3k|talk]])

=== Music/laser stage / silent disco / Symphony of Fire ===
* The music/laser stage was not a great fit for the event. It drained the villages and talk tents, making those less interesting. Also the whole separate 'party area' does not work for me. I would not miss it if we didn't have one next time. -- [[User:Sebastius|Sebastius]] ([[User talk:Sebastius|talk]])
* No clue why we had a music stage, but if we for some reason must have one, why not have hacker-music on it (e.g. robotic instruments, chiptunes, etc), it was mostly filled with mediocre covers of songs unrelated to the event entirely. [[User:SA007|SA007]] ([[User talk:SA007|talk]])
* Party area was WAY too spacious for the amount of people using it. -- [[User:Sebastius|Sebastius]] ([[User talk:Sebastius|talk]])
* Loved the silent disco setup though. Also really loved it being used at night to allow the byte battle thingie to take place. -- [[User:Sebastius|Sebastius]] ([[User talk:Sebastius|talk]])
* Having hacker built flame throwers which normally look awesome mounted on a commercial stage actually takes away the home-built hacker vibe of those flame throwers. -- [[User:Sebastius|Sebastius]] ([[User talk:Sebastius|talk]])
* Music stage with the flamethrowers, and Symphony of Fire were awesome. - [[User:Noor|Noor]] ([[User talk:Noor|talk]])
* Very well done. Silent disco was a neat solution to the inherent noise conflicts. What exactly is going on could have been a bit more detailed in the schedule, some people were sad they missed interesting things because they didn't realize who was playing. -- [[User:SK|SK]] ([[User talk:SK|talk]])
* For me, the music stage did not really add anything that I would miss if it dit not happen again on a next event. Symphony of Fire was indeed awesome, I wonder if they could have played on a raised podium so more people could have seen what was happening. [[User:Moem|Moem]] ([[User talk:Moem|talk]]) 09:27, 31 July 2022 (CEST)
** +1 -- [[User:Fraxinas|Fraxinas]] ([[User talk:Fraxinas|talk]])
** +1 Agreement from my side -- [[User:Foorschtbar|Foorschtbar]] ([[User talk:Foorschtbar|talk]])
** +1 Symphony of Fire was *the* main act at the stages, a raised podium or bigscreen would have been great that more people can see something. Especially the crowding is perhaps a bit critical with regard to the COVID measures. -- [[User:j0chen|j0chen]] ([[User talk:j0chen|talk]])
* Silent disco was so much fun! More, later, longer please! Seems like a great solution for us party animals who don't want calm after 2am. - [[User:HerraBRE|HerraBRE]]
* Music stage was to loud, to horrible and went on for way to long it and nowhere on the terrain you did not hear it, making sleeping almost impossible for people who actually need proper sleep (yes quiet camping was also to loud). -- [[User:Erik|Erik]] ([[User talk:Erik|talk]])
* Silent disco was a great idea. But for the next time, I'd appreciate it if it wasn't just announced in advance, but if there was also information about the technology, e.g. where/if I can get suitable headphones myself or on which frequencies it runs, so that I can build a receiver myself. As far as I have heard, it was probably possible to receive the radio on the entire camp? -- [[User:j0chen|j0chen]] ([[User talk:j0chen|talk]])

=== NOC / Network ===

* My SFP+ module got to stay in a datenklo. A++++ would camp again. -- [[User:Q3k|Q3k]] ([[User talk:Q3k|talk]])
* Datenklos were sorely missing some CYBER(tm) reflective foil wrapping -- [[User:Rot13|Rot13]] ([[User talk:Rot13|talk]])
** There was a plan for nice aluminium foil/plated cardboard skins with the field name and other decorations on it, but the weather during buildup threw a spanner into that idea... [[User:SA007|SA007]] ([[User talk:SA007|talk]])
** +1 Agreement from my side -- [[User:Foorschtbar|Foorschtbar]] ([[User talk:Foorschtbar|talk]])
* Some system for releasing cables from the datenklo switches at teardown would help. I couldn't recover my uplink cable and then later realised I left without it. Maybe give a key to a nearby village person that would release cables that have no more active link on a regular basis? -- [[User:M10|M10]] ([[User talk:M10|talk]])

=== Power ===

* Thank you very much for not cutting power off after the closing event as at SHA. -- [[User:Malaclypse|Malaclypse]] ([[User talk:Malaclypse|talk]])
** +1 Agreement from my side -- [[User:Foorschtbar|Foorschtbar]] ([[User talk:Foorschtbar|talk]])
* I was really happy to have power available until the very end on wednesday! Thanks for that! -- [[User:Cyb3rk41|Cyb3rk41]] ([[User talk:Cyb3rk41|talk]])
** Agreed. Having power for as long as possible was great. -- [[User:Rot13|Rot13]] ([[User talk:Rot13|talk]])
* The priklichtjes (festoon lights on poles) were a very welcome addition by Team:Power. [[User:Moem|Moem]] ([[User talk:Moem|talk]])
** They helped me greatly in navigating the terrain in the dark, indicating where the paths where between the villages. -- [[User:Rot13|Rot13]] ([[User talk:Rot13|talk]])
*** +1 very nice for indicating paths between tents and nature. -- [[User:j0chen|j0chen]] ([[User talk:j0chen|talk]])
* Very impressed with the PowerTeam, kudos! And we learned an important lesson (the hard way) that long PVC cables lying in wet grass will suck up moisture and trip the 'aardlek' (RCD?). This could be written a lot better in the power wiki page so people can prepare better. Now the neoprene cables are only recommended as the better quality, but not that PVC has negative effects, like taking out two villages for a few hours. -- [[User:M10|M10]] ([[User talk:M10|talk]])
:* In general, the cable should be rated for outdoor usage. PVC cables for outdoor use do exist (and are really nice to use because they're more flexible, especially when it's cold), so a simple list of materials doesn't work. (In case you're interested: harmonized cable types have the material encoded in the type, H05RR-F for example means H = harmonized, 05 = 300V, R = rubber inner insulation, R = rubber outer insulation, F = fine stranded. Neoprene is usually identified as RN, indoor PVC as VV, outdoor PVC as V3V3 (e.g. H05V3V3-F). Not sure if listing all outdoor capable material codes would work; just look for "rated for outdoor use"; the IP44 schuko plug with the ring is a good proxy/heuristic for that.) Oh, and by the way, neoprene can also suck up moisture over time! It's just usually slow enough :) --[[User:Juerd|Juerd]] ([[User talk:Juerd|talk]])

=== Off-Site Logistics ===

* Off-site logistics was a mess, during buildup the schedule was changed drastically without communication about it, we ended up waiting 9 hours for a truck that was smaller than promised requiring a second trip. Teardown I drove the van myself. [[User:SA007|SA007]] ([[User talk:SA007|talk]])

=== On-Site Logistics ===

* Gators are too loud, you can't hear each other inside a tent if they drive by. [[User:SA007|SA007]] ([[User talk:SA007|talk]])
** IIRC electric vehicles were unavaible from the local rental companies, unfortunately [[User:Flimpie|Flimpie]] ([[User talk:Flimpie|talk]]) 22:38, 1 August 2022 (CEST)
** +1 The gators were also so loud that you could barely understand/use the radio when you were sitting in it -- [[User:j0chen|j0chen]] ([[User talk:j0chen|talk]])

=== Other music/noise (outside the official party area) ===

* Please NEVER allow Holoplot to be on the field ever again. And if that is impossible to prevent, at least NOT do a late night party with that system. The volume OUTSIDE the tent was horrifying. -- [[User:Sebastius|Sebastius]] ([[User talk:Sebastius|talk]])
* Bit torn on this one. It is a party event, but there was way too much loud music post 2 AM. Some of us do need sleep. I know, weak etc. I don't recall seeing a clear policy on what is acceptable, might be behind people feeling ok cranking up the volume after midnight. -- [[User:Ahu|Ahu]] ([[User talk:Ahu|talk]])
* The Retro Arcade area was an absolute nuisance at night. They were blasting the neighbouring villages with shitty music and drunken yelling until 2 or 3 am pretty much every day. I can think of several words for this kind of behaviour, and none of them rhyme with "excellent". [[User:Alxndr|Alxndr]] ([[User talk:Alxndr|talk]])
* It seems like while the official policy was 'no noise after 1AM', it wasn't actively enforced for most cases - and I think that enabled people to also treat it a bit more like a hint rather than a rule? Perhaps for future events we should have numerical 'loudness' scores for all fields, forming a gradient, with a higher score letting people be louder and party later, and actually enforce that. That way loud people can camp in loud villages, while those who need peace and quiet can camp in quiet villages. -- [[User:Q3k|Q3k]] ([[User talk:Q3k|talk]])
** I think this was sort-of implemented based on village input, but the usual event fields are just a bit too small for that to work reliably -- [[User:SK|SK]] ([[User talk:SK|talk]])
* This was both badly communicated (FAQ said "until midnight", apparently the actual rule was from 1 am?) and not usefully enforced. Arcade area right next to family village especially apparently could do whatever they wanted. This makes awesome ideas like silent disco for the "official" music stage sadly quite moot. -- [[User:SK|SK]] ([[User talk:SK|talk]])
* second-hand, but if security (i.e. the contact listed for noise complaints on the front page of this wiki!) really responded to calls about this with "don't call us unless there's an actual emergency" some rules seriously need to be re-established -- [[User:SK|SK]] ([[User talk:SK|talk]])
* at the same time small villages further into the "louder sector" (i.e. away from family/silent camping) were told off for having any music on low volume -- [[User:SK|SK]] ([[User talk:SK|talk]])
* Our village was placed in a party area. That was unfortunate. Next time I'll camp in a quiet are even if that means being far away from the village I am interested in. Geraffel adhered to the 1am quiet policy (yay!) but others didn't. They went on till after 4.30 and didn't honor complaints. -- [[User:Mosquito|Mosquito]] ([[User talk:Mosquito|talk]])
* I was sad there was no place to party and dance after 2am. I agree people who want quiet should be able to enjoy quiet, but in a perfect camp there would be room for both. -- [[User:HerraBRE|HerraBRE]]
* The distribution of the Villages and party zones was perhaps not quite ideal, felt the Family Zone (which had asked for quiet) was in the middle of the Party Zone (based on the noise / music) -- [[User:j0chen|j0chen]] ([[User talk:j0chen|talk]])

=== POC / Dect / Fieldphones ===
* I couldn't find advance information as to when the phone / DECT network would be shut off on the wiki, having such information would be useful (but I may just have been looking in the wrong place) -- [[User:Pinoaffe|Pinoaffe]] ([[User talk:Pinoaffe|talk]])
* DECT coverage was great around the whole camp area. -- [[User:Rot13|Rot13]] ([[User talk:Rot13|talk]])
** +1 Agreement from my side -- [[User:Foorschtbar|Foorschtbar]] ([[User talk:Foorschtbar|talk]])
* DECT self-registration worked great (have been used to it for a while now from congress). -- [[User:Rot13|Rot13]] ([[User talk:Rot13|talk]])
** +1 Agreement from my side -- [[User:Foorschtbar|Foorschtbar]] ([[User talk:Foorschtbar|talk]])
* DECT was switched off too early. DECT is mandatory for teardown, especially as the gsm coverage is quite bad -- [[User:Sirgoofy|sirgoofy]]

=== Parcel deliveries ===
* Many people that ordered things to the field were (seemingly) unaware of how parcel deliveries were supposed to work. This caused unnecessary overhead. -- [[User:Pinoaffe|Pinoaffe]] ([[User talk:Pinoaffe|talk]])
* Collaborating with C3Post may be worthwhile for a next event, though they may not want to deal with large packages. -- [[User:Pinoaffe|Pinoaffe]] ([[User talk:Pinoaffe|talk]])
** Delivering anything of real value sounds like a bad idea (on big events). Besides being way more effort than postcards, parcels (pending delivery) would require (secure-ish) storage space while not out for relivery or if the first delivery attempt failed. We'd also need extra couriers and not hand deliveries out to random passing-by hackers, which also leaks the info on the parcel (such as tracking numbers) to said random hackers. Also some postcards just got lost/didn't get delivered, which would be a real issue with parcels. -- [[User:Trilader|Trilader]] ([[User talk:Trilader|talk]])
* Parcel deliveries had a procedure outlined at [[Parcel deliveries]] to keep them manageable, but somehow people still sent packages to the terrain without following the procedure, maybe something to add to the info booklet/advertise more?

=== Press / Media coverage ===

* Put your feedback here :)

=== Productiehuis / C3VOC ===
* MOST EXCELLENT WORK!! -- [[User:Ahu|Ahu]] ([[User talk:Ahu|talk]])
* The video-quality of the (few) talks I watched online was good, and I saw some nice fade effects. [[User:Fhp|Fhp]] ([[User talk:Fhp|talk]])
* The hard cutoff of the intro tune annoys me every time. [[User:Fhp|Fhp]] ([[User talk:Fhp|talk]])
* Kudos to the C3VOC! That was awesome! Video quality was excellent and the fact that each talk appeared in the C3 media archive only a couple of hours later impressed me very much. That is better service than many (or most?) commercial providers deliver. You people are fantastic! -- [[User:Mosquito|Mosquito]] ([[User talk:Mosquito|talk]])
* Nothing short of amazing -- [[User:Raboof|Raboof]] ([[User talk:Raboof|talk]])

=== Projectleiding ===
* Thank you for your work. -- [[User:Justelex|Justelex]] ([[User talk:Justelex|talk]])
** +1 Agreement from my side -- [[User:Foorschtbar|Foorschtbar]] ([[User talk:Foorschtbar|talk]])
** ++ -- [[User:M10|M10]] ([[User talk:M10|talk]])
* <3 -- [[User:Raboof|Raboof]] ([[User talk:Raboof|talk]])

=== ROC ===

* Wheeze and his team did a excellent job!
* Good work by the warehouse team for doing the battery swaps, saved a lot of time! [[User:MrLinux|MrLinux]]
* Nice we had the HAM radio repeater! [[User:MrLinux|MrLinux]]
* The ROC team lacked a bit on publicity, improvement for 2025! [[User:MrLinux|MrLinux]]
* A QSL-wall could be an idea for 2025! [[User:MrLinux|MrLinux]]
* We missed the VERON at the event [[User:MrLinux|MrLinux]]
* Excellent Job. A Laminated card with "Radio rules" and the Channel distribution would be a nice thing to be handed out next time. -- [[User:Justelex|Justelex]] ([[User talk:Justelex|talk]])
** Would definitely be good, just like enforcing the language on the radio, e.g. in a channel that was supposed to be explicitly in English, Dutch was often spoken anyway -- [[User:j0chen|j0chen]] ([[User talk:j0chen|talk]])
* Next time after the DECT comes up, require as many radios as you can to be returned, forcing teams to use dect. Way better audio, point to point connections and people actually being reachable. -- [[User:Sebastius|Sebastius]] ([[User talk:Sebastius|talk]])
* The audio quality sucked. Problem with the chosen technology, i know. Most conversations were completely unintelligible. -- [[User:Sebastius|Sebastius]] ([[User talk:Sebastius|talk]])
* Teach people how to use the radio properly. I still don't know which name goes first etc. -- [[User:Sebastius|Sebastius]] ([[User talk:Sebastius|talk]])
* Reconsider channel system. It happened too often that people were calling/listening on the wrong channel. [[User:Flimpie|Flimpie]] ([[User talk:Flimpie|talk]]) 22:38, 1 August 2022 (CEST)
* Educate people on radio etiquette and how to properly talk into a radio. Yelling/speaking too quietly/having too much BG noise, combined with DMR compression creates inaudible speech [[User:Flimpie|Flimpie]] ([[User talk:Flimpie|talk]]) 22:38, 1 August 2022 (CEST)
* Ensuring that the correct language is spoken. I heard a lot of Dutch during some security angelshifts, even though the channel was supposed to be in English. -- [[User:j0chen|j0chen]] ([[User talk:j0chen|talk]])

=== Safety / stewards / first aid / Fire Marshalls ===

* Phone numbers or other contact information was hard to find at the beginning of the event, added to the wiki later. --[[User:Juerd|Juerd]] ([[User talk:Juerd|talk]]) 20:47, 30 July 2022 (CEST)
* There were no backup mobile phone numbers (at least none published) for reaching the safety teams in case of infrastructure outage, and they were unreachable when the network was down. --[[User:Juerd|Juerd]] ([[User talk:Juerd|talk]]) 20:47, 30 July 2022 (CEST)
* Security: Bike path was open to all, so technically anyone could get on the terrain without a ticket. Which meant at least a few unwelcome visitors. - [[User:Noor|Noor]] ([[User talk:Noor|talk]])
* I was surprised that the fire extinguishers were the first things being collected from our village (Geraffel) during teardown. At this time we still had a lot of people staying and as murphy wills, the fat bowl of our our barbecue catched fire afterwards. Fortunately nothing bad happened but my expectation would be to have extinguishers available until rented tents are torn down / all visitors are gone. At lease in large villages like ours. -- [[User:Cyb3rk41|Cyb3rk41]] ([[User talk:Cyb3rk41|talk]])

=== Shuttle services (train station, and luggage on site) ===

* Shuttle drop-off point on field should have been marked somewhere on the maps or wiki, during build-up. I spent forever asking around trying to find the drop-off point, only to find it at heaven. - [[User:Noor|Noor]] ([[User talk:Noor|talk]])
* Shuttle was efficient and worked well when I used it -- [[User:SK|SK]] ([[User talk:SK|talk]])
* Shuttle ticket was a bit last-minute and unclear (i.e. afaik never produced an actual "ticket", which lead to questions - and in the end was more like a donation than a strictly-required ticket) -- [[User:SK|SK]] ([[User talk:SK|talk]])

=== Supermarket ===

* The supermarket was a really valuable addition to the event, and probably saved lots of fuel and time for people. I found the prices acceptable, and the choice of products was surprisingly broad! --[[User:Juerd|Juerd]] ([[User talk:Juerd|talk]]) 20:47, 30 July 2022 (CEST)
** +1 Agreement from my side -- [[User:Foorschtbar|Foorschtbar]] ([[User talk:Foorschtbar|talk]])
* Supermarket was a great thing and I hope we'll have it at the next event. -- [[User:Rot13|Rot13]] ([[User talk:Rot13|talk]])
* Supermarket was wonderful, it felt like being back in civilization again and I could just zip inside to get a drink or breakfast for the next morning. - [[User:Noor|Noor]] ([[User talk:Noor|talk]])
* was very useful to have and surprisingly well-stocked (i.e. not just packaged junk food). Next time they'll know to bring less soft-drinks and more Ethernet/USB/... cables ;) -- [[User:SK|SK]] ([[User talk:SK|talk]])
* Guests from abroad struggled to make use of the supermarket, since it didn't accept foreign cards and there was no ATM on site. -- [[User:HerraBRE|HerraBRE]]
* The supermarket was a really good idea, however my card was not accepted so I was very dependent on cash - Very limited without an ATM on camp. -- [[User:j0chen|j0chen]] ([[User talk:j0chen|talk]])

=== Sysadmin / bofh ===

* Having had to deal with the crumbling of central infrastructure in other events, I really appreciated the stability of the wiki and Engelsystem before and throughout the event. -- [[User:Rot13|Rot13]] ([[User talk:Rot13|talk]])
* Engelsystem and wiki could've used longer login sessions. Every time I tried to quickly check my angel shifts I had to login again. -- [[User:Rot13|Rot13]] ([[User talk:Rot13|talk]])

=== Terrain ===

* The western way to quiet camping was not accessible: so narrow that you can only go one way at a time and a huge log being in the way.
** I actually opened it up significantly with a trolley, it had 1,5m high weeds on it and was almost overgrown. [[User:SA007|SA007]] ([[User talk:SA007|talk]])
* The quiet camping area (Wilson field) turned out to be quite crammed and could be bigger for the next event. I assume this was caused by the scouts taking some of that area due to the unfortunate double booking. -- [[User:Rot13|Rot13]] ([[User talk:Rot13|talk]])
* The quiet camping really missed a shower container, nearest was the family village, a 15 mins walk. (with sha2017 there was one) [[User:MrLinux|MrLinux]]
* Not something really on us, I knew that the public bike path was to remain open. Most bikers were considerable in slowing down when crossing the Backbone at least, but some seemed to really adamant to enforce the negative stereotypes of people on road bikes. Create some speed bumps with cable ramps next time maybe? -- [[User:Dany|Dany]] ([[User talk:Dany|talk]])
* It would have been good to (more strongly) encourage people with small children to camp in Family Zone and not Quiet Camping (Wilson field). It's unreasonable to expect small children to be quiet all the time, and yet this is what is expected on Wilson. Maybe we can make that clearer. [[User:Moem|Moem]] ([[User talk:Moem|talk]]) 13:49, 31 July 2022 (CEST)
* really loved having the orga tents on the south trunk. For next time, maybe only have those teams on there that actually interact with visitors. -- [[User:Sebastius|Sebastius]] ([[User talk:Sebastius|talk]])
* Next time maybe also place some villages on the south trunk road, the south trunk looked a bit 'dead' now with only orga tents. -- [[User:Sebastius|Sebastius]] ([[User talk:Sebastius|talk]])
* The Zuse 'aux' path over the dike was weird and not signed properly, I walked it at night and actually looked at the map on my phone where the spot should be to get down off the dike. The path seemed to be 'walk up the dike', 'don't see any hint on where the path should be going...', 'look it up', 'walk ~150m to the left without any clue if it is the correct way' 'suddenly find a path down again'. [[User:SA007|SA007]] ([[User talk:SA007|talk]])
* For me, it was the first hacker camp and i like the terrain with the ways, water, lakes, woods etc. much more than other camps, where all tens be a on a very large field -- [[User:Foorschtbar|Foorschtbar]] ([[User talk:Foorschtbar|talk]])
** It was the same for me and I'm also a big fan of the terrain. -- [[User:Rot13|Rot13]] ([[User talk:Rot13|talk]])
* The online map was great - would be nice to 'level it up' for next time: searching on the map, better interlinking with the wiki, export to OsmAnd in a way that allows searching as well, mobile usability, etc -- [[User:Raboof|Raboof]] ([[User talk:Raboof|talk]])
* Having the online map was great, but I wish to have something more optimized for mobile devices for the next event. Performance was poor (in mobile Firefox at least) and I totally missed the options menu for showing villages. -- [[User:Rot13|Rot13]] ([[User talk:Rot13|talk]])

=== Ticket and Entrance ===

* Just works! Thank u -- [[User:Foorschtbar|Foorschtbar]] ([[User talk:Foorschtbar|talk]])

=== Toilets / Showers ===

* The maintenance crew for the toilets/showers did a great job, IMHO, those facilities where usually in very good shape. [[User:Alxndr|Alxndr]] ([[User talk:Alxndr|talk]])
** +1 Agreement from my side -- [[User:Foorschtbar|Foorschtbar]] ([[User talk:Foorschtbar|talk]])
** +1 All facilities were great, better than anything I'm used to -- [[User:j0chen|j0chen]] ([[User talk:j0chen|talk]])
* Easily the best showers of any hacker camp I've been to. -- [[User:Q3k|Q3k]] ([[User talk:Q3k|talk]])
* There should have been showers closer to the quiet camping area. -- [[User:Rot13|Rot13]] ([[User talk:Rot13|talk]])
* This has been my first hacker camp and I don't know the "hacker camp standards" on showers but I know a lot of music festivals. Compared to this, I must say the showering experience was simply great! I always had warm water and never had to queue and this is something I NEVER experienced on any festival yet - I'm used to waiting and then having cold water only. -- [[User:Cyb3rk41|Cyb3rk41]] ([[User talk:Cyb3rk41|talk]])
* Having urinals in all places where normal toilets were available would greatly have contributed to the cleanliness of the toilets, I suppose. -- [[User:Cyb3rk41|Cyb3rk41]] ([[User talk:Cyb3rk41|talk]])
** +1 Agreement from my side -- [[User:Foorschtbar|Foorschtbar]] ([[User talk:Foorschtbar|talk]])
* The showers and toilets were GREAT. Well done everyone involved! Random suggestion: it was warm enough that I would actually have welcomed a (cheaper and more eco-friendly?) cold shower option. -- [[User:HerraBRE|HerraBRE]]

=== Villages ===

* It is useful that villages are distributed over the field beforehand, but I think it would be reasonable to expect villages to 'lay their claim' physically on day 0 at the latest, and from day 1 onwards have any remaining empty space welcome unaffiliated hackers. Forcing unaffiliated hackers onto designated "free for all" areas seems like an antipattern to me. It might be better to have 'dots' on the map rather than 'areas' for distributing the villages, to promote more flexibility? Perhaps we can make pretty 'poles' to put into the ground saying "Village X will be around here, and is a small/medium/big village" for orientation? -- [[User:Raboof|Raboof]] ([[User talk:Raboof|talk]])

=== Village tent/furniture rental (Moebelhaus) ===

* Our tent ended up being rotated by pi/2 compared to the map. This ended up totally throwing off what we were planning. We managed regardless, but it'd be great if in the future these maps would actually reflect reality :). -- [[User:Q3k|Q3k]] ([[User talk:Q3k|talk]])
* Our tent was leaking, especially on the connector between modules. -- [[User:Q3k|Q3k]] ([[User talk:Q3k|talk]])
* Don't see a spot for team tents. The Deco tent had a steel bar all around the bottom, making it really annoying with carts and a trip hazard. [[User:SA007|SA007]] ([[User talk:SA007|talk]])
* Great service, very useful, good stuff. It would be nice to have some way to see which furniture was still 'in flight' and which had already been delivered, to catch missing/misdelivered furniture earlier -- [[User:Raboof|Raboof]] ([[User talk:Raboof|talk]])

=== Visitors ===

* Most visitors were excellent, as always. But in the next few years when thinking of the next event, we should probably talk about people who I guess must be new to this community, that are incredibly lax with the photo/filming policy, and behave like consumers instead of participants. --[[User:Juerd|Juerd]] ([[User talk:Juerd|talk]]) 20:49, 30 July 2022 (CEST)
** agreed, many post in social media contain lots of peoples faces. I doubt that everyone was asked for permission.
* I suspect that there were quite a lot of 'visitors' that didn't have a ticket on site walking around besides the scouts. [[User:SA007|SA007]] ([[User talk:SA007|talk]])

=== Volunteering / Angels ===

* Providing the angels with reusable water bottles was a very good idea. [[User:Alxndr|Alxndr]] ([[User talk:Alxndr|talk]])
** Agreed -- [[User:Rot13|Rot13]] ([[User talk:Rot13|talk]])
** +1 - I did use it a lot more than I expected at first, which was probably quite healthy to do -- [[User:SK|SK]] ([[User talk:SK|talk]])

==== Volunteering ====

* Put your feedback here :)

==== Angel Food ====

* My only complaint about Mecklenb[öoøu]rg(er)? is that I still don't know how to spell their name. The food is wonderful, the people are great too! --[[User:Juerd|Juerd]] ([[User talk:Juerd|talk]]) 20:51, 30 July 2022 (CEST)
** +1 Agreement from my side. The only thing i missed was more sorts of tea. i buyed one box of peppermint tea bags, and they where empty in 1h which means the people like it (more)!? -- [[User:Foorschtbar|Foorschtbar]] ([[User talk:Foorschtbar|talk]])
* The food was great, as always :) -- [[User:Pinoaffe|Pinoaffe]] ([[User talk:Pinoaffe|talk]])
* The angel food was incredible. One of the highlights of this event. -- [[User:Rot13|Rot13]] ([[User talk:Rot13|talk]])
* Angel food was mostly great, except for the dinner on day 0 and some dishes otherwise. I'd also have appreciated some sort of meat at least every other day. - [[User:Noor|Noor]] ([[User talk:Noor|talk]])
* As always very good. Only complaint lack of coffee mugs -- [[User:SK|SK]] ([[User talk:SK|talk]])
** Ha! I think i did order them, but for some reason we didn't get them. Will make a note for next time. -- [[User:Sebastius|Sebastius]] ([[User talk:Sebastius|talk]])
* The Angel food was to die for (sorry, couldn't resist), big thanks to the Mecklenb[öoøu]rg(er) crew for that. Didn't miss a meat option at all. -- [[User:Dany|Dany]] ([[User talk:Dany|talk]])
* I want a Mecklenbørger for my next birthday. It was just so relaxing to know that the kitchen was completely meat-free. [[User:Moem|Moem]] ([[User talk:Moem|talk]]) 13:52, 31 July 2022 (CEST)
* Great food just like at SHA, and nice to have no worries about things containing meat :) -- [[User:F0x|F0x]] ([[User talk:F0x|talk]])

==== Angel Kitchen ====

* Dishwashing was a lot more manageable than at previous events, thanks to the fact that there as more equipment available. -- [[User:Pinoaffe|Pinoaffe]] ([[User talk:Pinoaffe|talk]])

==== Angel desk and Angel system ====

* I'd really like it if the Engelsystem alert emails contained the actual update in the email content. I'd get spammed with email notifications and if I wanted to actually read the update, I'd have to click through and login to the Engelsystem. I just ended up leaving most of those updates unread throughout the day. - [[User:Noor|Noor]] ([[User talk:Noor|talk]])
* Would be nice if the angelsystem was more usable on mobile -- [[User:Raboof|Raboof]] ([[User talk:Raboof|talk]])
* The login sessions could have been a bit longer, I was constantly kicked out when I just wanted to look up something. -- [[User:j0chen|j0chen]] ([[User talk:j0chen|talk]])

==== Heaven ====

* I assume this was just some miscommunication etc, but the outdoor seating was removed too early, esp given covid situation. Otherwise all good. -- [[User:SK|SK]] ([[User talk:SK|talk]])
** Yeah, it happened when i wasn't looking. We should have moved some tables outside. -- [[User:Sebastius|Sebastius]] ([[User talk:Sebastius|talk]])
* The rules for core-team people (which were doing shifts outside the angel-system) for the heaven food should be made more clear. [[User:MrLinux|MrLinux]]
** That was actually really clear. Your teamlead might not have communicated it to you. Red wristband for 'full time work during event' and vouchers obtainable by teamleads for those doing work outside of the angel system. -- [[User:Sebastius|Sebastius]] ([[User talk:Sebastius|talk]])
* I dearly wish we would have had the time to decorate Heaven. Unfortunately, the loss of time during buildup (*shakes fist at the weather gods*) made that impossible. The tent itself was splendid, so spacious. [[User:Moem|Moem]] ([[User talk:Moem|talk]]) 13:54, 31 July 2022 (CEST)
** Ah well, we did a little by ourselves with the parasols, and it was fine! Next time! -- [[User:Sebastius|Sebastius]] ([[User talk:Sebastius|talk]])

=== Warehouse ===

* Warehouse did a really great job. And I requested some really strange things. They even got Powercables and a Compressor for repairing the Flamethrowers. -- [[User:Justelex|Justelex]] ([[User talk:Justelex|talk]])
** +1 Agreement from my side -- [[User:Foorschtbar|Foorschtbar]] ([[User talk:Foorschtbar|talk]])
* Warehouse should maybe stock more small stepladders, I feel they were regularly all in use. Otherwise great supplies. [[User:SA007|SA007]] ([[User talk:SA007|talk]])

=== Waste / garbage / trash ===

* Slightly sad that trash was just split into “glass” and “everything else”. It'd be nice if we could at least recycle cardboard/paper! -- [[User:Q3k|Q3k]] ([[User talk:Q3k|talk]])
** Agreed. Throwing everything into the "Other Waste" containers felt wrong. I understand this was on the waste company dropping the ball. Let's make sure this won't happen at the next event. -- [[User:Rot13|Rot13]] ([[User talk:Rot13|talk]])
** +1 Agreement from my side -- [[User:Foorschtbar|Foorschtbar]] ([[User talk:Foorschtbar|talk]])
** That was the supplier dropping the ball in almost every category. It was in the plan (i co-wrote it) -- [[User:Sebastius|Sebastius]] ([[User talk:Sebastius|talk]])
* an awful lot of mate etc bottles ended up in glass trash I think - the later-deployed bottle collection crates helped with that -- [[User:SK|SK]] ([[User talk:SK|talk]])
** Yeah that happened last time too. We did plan for drop points. Not sure why the points weren't deployed earlier by team Bar. -- [[User:Sebastius|Sebastius]] ([[User talk:Sebastius|talk]])

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== Topics ==

=== General / overall ===

* So happy about the progressive pride and Antifa flag on the tower
* Awesome event again, thanks to everyone who did their part to making it such -- [[User:SK|SK]] ([[User talk:SK|talk]])
* It was fantastic and I am already stoked for the next one! -- [[User:Mosquito|Mosquito]] ([[User talk:Mosquito|talk]])
** +1 Agreement from my side -- [[User:Foorschtbar|Foorschtbar]] ([[User talk:Foorschtbar|talk]])
* I had a great camp overall, it was way more comfortable than I'd expected and things seemed to run smoothly. Being greeted by progressive pride flag on the Orga tent and tower instantly made me feel at ease. -- [[User:Dany|Dany]] ([[User talk:Dany|talk]])
* would be a really good idea to water the ways more often, to prevent the dust. -- [[User:Justelex|Justelex]] ([[User talk:Justelex|talk]])
** I'd be afraid this would quickly turn into mud, and I prefer dust to mud -- [[User:Pinoaffe|Pinoaffe]] ([[User talk:Pinoaffe|talk]])
* It seems that there was so much time spend on nice to haves and to little on must haves resulting in quite a few people beeing totally burned out, I really wonder if its worth it organizing it again next year at this size with this much "consumers" visiting and maybe just going back to a smaller size is nicer, the big presence of sponsors also did not help with this feeling. -- [[User:Erik|Erik]] ([[User talk:Erik|talk]])
** I am not quite sure where you saw those "consumers", especially since that would be quite a high entry price for a consumer (no daytickets and all). As far as I know we didn't finish selling all tickets so it was smaller then expected even. Although I do understand that you are longing for a smaller sized event (there are definitely a couple of those out there), I dearly hope that this event will even grow, since it is quite nice to have more and new people being interested and learning more. Sponsors I am unsure about, since I do know they were a big help in financing the whole event. With the point of being to burned out, that might be a problem of scheduling and volunteering, since there were around ~400 volunteers for the whole event (officially).
* Still amazed by the amount of creativity and community, so many people sharing what they love and are good at -- [[User:Raboof|Raboof]] ([[User talk:Raboof|talk]])

=== Arrival / departure / parking / train shuttle / luggage shuttle ===

* I was surprised twice that empty places in the field were apparently claimed. It was not clear to me that people had staked out places already on the wiki. This would seem to me one of The Most Important Things To Tell People: "whatever is on the wiki wins". Or perhaps abolish that, also fine by me, but in any case be very clear about it. I could also do with an AR app or so that shows me what people claimed :-) -- [[User:Ahu|Ahu]] ([[User talk:Ahu|talk]])
** Next time we should plan some areas for 'those without village', i heard they were planned for this time but they might have gotten lost with the last minute rearranging due to the double booking. -- [[User:Sebastius|Sebastius]] ([[User talk:Sebastius|talk]])
** (moved my feedback here to [[Feedback#Villages]]) -- [[User:Raboof|Raboof]] ([[User talk:Raboof|talk]])
* Last day of the event felt kinda "lost" as people were beginning to tear things down from early on in the day well before the closing event. Was bit of a weird mood/feeling. -- [[User:Rot13|Rot13]] ([[User talk:Rot13|talk]])
** +1 Agreement from my side -- [[User:Foorschtbar|Foorschtbar]] ([[User talk:Foorschtbar|talk]])
** While it is pretty normal for many people to already pack their things on the last day, the problem was certainly exacerbated by the fact that a roundmail on day 4 told all villages that their rented tents had to be "cleaned and empty" no later than 17:30 on day 5. That really gave villages no choice but to tear everything down during daytime on day 5. [[User:PoempelFox|PoempelFox]] ([[User talk:PoempelFox|talk]])
* The parking area was way better then at Sha. A Regular people shuttle on the field with one or two 4+ seater golfcarts would be awesome for pregnant / people that can't walk long distances and so on. (Maybe also on call would be enough) -- [[User:Justelex|Justelex]] ([[User talk:Justelex|talk]])
* "Shuttle goes when it goes" without any indication how long it will take is no option for people who have to catch their train/flight. We had many questions and complaints at the infodesk. A schedule would be great. -- [[User:Sirgoofy|sirgoofy]]
* The shuttle stop changed during the event. It would be great to have a dedicated shuttle stop (with sign and timetable) during the event.
* The payment system for the shuttle was too complicated. We had many questions about buying tickets at the infodesk. People tried to buy tickets in the online shop, but had problems getting their order paid. It would be better to make it free, or allow to pay in cash in the shuttle.

=== Badge ===

* Very well-made and polished badge, really surprised me with the effort put into it and its versatility! [[User:Vurpo|Vurpo]] ([[User talk:Vurpo|talk]]) 21:07, 30 July 2022 (CEST)
** +1 Agreement from my side -- [[User:Foorschtbar|Foorschtbar]] ([[User talk:Foorschtbar|talk]])
* The badge is really nice, but the price of MCH admission is already hindering people we'd like to reach. Perhaps do consider if we really need it. -- [[User:Ahu|Ahu]] ([[User talk:Ahu|talk]])
* Awesome badge, I had a lot of fun tinkering with it during camp and always received helpful advice in the IRC channel. Please keep this project going! [[User:Alxndr|Alxndr]] ([[User talk:Alxndr|talk]])
* The badge is amazing! However, I feel bad that my badges from previous events barely got used and this one is likely to suffer the same fate. For environmental/cost reasons, I kinda wish I could have opted out. Alternately, if there were a way to hand my badge in after the event and know it would be used for educational purposes later on, I would have given it up a heartbeat. -- [[User:HerraBRE|HerraBRE]]
* Really love the badge, it inspired me to try micropython for the first time. Also I find it to be a piece of art, the PCB design is just great. On the other side, I'm also sceptical on the ecological aspects. I fear that many hackers will not use it anymore after the event or even never use it at all. Maybe it would be a good idea to offer badges as an option instead of giving everyone a piece. -- [[User:Cyb3rk41|Cyb3rk41]] ([[User talk:Cyb3rk41|talk]])

=== Bars and food court ===

* The capacity of the food-stands was quite low, which resulted in long waiting times. Not good with hungry kids. [[User:Fhp|Fhp]] ([[User talk:Fhp|talk]])
* Agree with above: low capacity for the commercial food stands. They also didn't seem to grasp the concept of 'lunch'. I expected them to be up and running around 13.00, but most of them weren't, resulting in even longer lines at the places that were open earlier. -- [[User:Dany|Dany]] ([[User talk:Dany|talk]])
* The food stands I've visited (Wok, Fries) had poor in-person advertising of everything that they were actually selling and how much it cost. -- [[User:Rot13|Rot13]] ([[User talk:Rot13|talk]])
* The Johny Cash Burger was great but mostly I fed on waffles by the awesome C3WOC <3. And of course one can rely on the Italian Hackers' Embassy for excellent pasta. By the way... is there a Spanish or French Embassy with similar services? Would put that on my checklist for the next camp. ;-) Oh and Angel Food was also great and healthy. Didn't miss meat there, eating more veg is better for the environment anyways. Thanks for the opportunity! Conclusion: Wide range, many choices, very good! -- [[User:Mosquito|Mosquito]] ([[User talk:Mosquito|talk]])
* Frietsaus is not Mayo. [[User:MrLinux|MrLinux]]
* The split layout of the bar/food area didn't really work. You couldn't see all in one go, so most people only visited one bar making a huge queue there. -- [[User:Sebastius|Sebastius]] ([[User talk:Sebastius|talk]])
* Coffee vendor people had no idea what they were doing. Literally not knowing what a Latte Machiatto is while it's on their menu. -- [[User:Sebastius|Sebastius]] ([[User talk:Sebastius|talk]])
* Next time get food vendors from several companies instead of using one single source. Yes it's more work to set up but this time the overall quality was not great (but acceptable). -- [[User:Sebastius|Sebastius]] ([[User talk:Sebastius|talk]])
* Next time also get some vendors who do varied meals (every day a different choice, like the vegan place at CCCamp2019) at competitive pricing. -- [[User:Sebastius|Sebastius]] ([[User talk:Sebastius|talk]])
* Next time allow Mecklenborger to also have a food-truck for the general public on camp. -- [[User:Sebastius|Sebastius]] ([[User talk:Sebastius|talk]])
* Overall nice. Might be good to promote villages that have good capacity for selling food as well somehow, to make it more 'integrated'? -- [[User:Raboof|Raboof]] ([[User talk:Raboof|talk]])

=== Buildup and teardown ===

* As one of the persons who collected what felt like a kilometre of Flatterband at teardown, and removed a pile of pegs it was attached to, I would like to thank those buildup angels who didn't sink the pegs below ground level. You made my job a lot easier! :) [[User:Alxndr|Alxndr]] ([[User talk:Alxndr|talk]])
** +1 Agreement from my side -- [[User:Foorschtbar|Foorschtbar]] ([[User talk:Foorschtbar|talk]])

=== COVID19 precautions ===

* Thanks for caring about ventilation. [https://grafana.mch2022.org/d/q9gZutJ7z/mch2022?orgId=1&viewPanel=30&from=1658492800367&to=1658853839068 CO2 meters] and open sides weren't in place during the opening talk, but this was fixed quickly after and I heard the security team kept an eye on the graphs. --[[User:Juerd|Juerd]] ([[User talk:Juerd|talk]]) 20:43, 30 July 2022 (CEST)
* I liked the availability of masks and self tests for those who forgot to bring their own. I've heard about a few dozen people who got infected, but there were probably more. Thanks to the rapid tests and the heroes who chose to isolate, we may have averted a disastrous superspreading event. --[[User:Juerd|Juerd]] ([[User talk:Juerd|talk]]) 22:02, 30 July 2022 (CEST)
** +1 Agreement from my side -- [[User:Foorschtbar|Foorschtbar]] ([[User talk:Foorschtbar|talk]])
** Very much appreciated the easy availability of masks and rapid tests. -- [[User:Rot13|Rot13]] ([[User talk:Rot13|talk]])
* It would have been good to switch from recommended to required mask wearing, at least indoors, once it became clear that "personal responsibility" wasn't working out (even in this community, what a disappointment). [[User:Alxndr|Alxndr]] ([[User talk:Alxndr|talk]])
** Agreeing on all points. Was also a bit disappointed. -- [[User:Rot13|Rot13]] ([[User talk:Rot13|talk]])
** Its quite hard to do that in a country where this is not a rule anymore.
* It was good to request/require mask wearing in the food queue in Heaven. It would have been even better to do it from the very beginning. [[User:Moem|Moem]] ([[User talk:Moem|talk]]) 09:20, 31 July 2022 (CEST)

=== Cohesion ===

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=== Content / talks / heralds / speakerdesk / AV / recordings ===

* In the end it worked pretty well, but perhaps do ponder having some "known good" presenter laptops/devices available. This has worked very well for other conferences. I used a 200 euro Chromebook with a throwaway google account. -- [[User:Ahu|Ahu]] ([[User talk:Ahu|talk]])
* This is a matter of taste - if you light up the speakers real well, the audience can enjoy a well lighted speaker. But the speaker then often can't see the audience. And during my talks, I love to actually see the audience. This was better in 2017 (at least in Abacus and Battery). -- [[User:Ahu|Ahu]] ([[User talk:Ahu|talk]])
* The speaker desk and the room to work is absolutely ACE. -- [[User:Ahu|Ahu]] ([[User talk:Ahu|talk]])
* Very friendly and helpful people at the speakerdesk and also Heralds and other Angels. Dry running my laptop with the monitor at the Speaker Desk before the talk made me much calmer once I knew that worked. Thank you! -- [[User:Mosquito|Mosquito]] ([[User talk:Mosquito|talk]])
* had the opposite experience: crablab forgot giving me a speaker badge and was not very hospitable "i'd prefer if you bought your mate at the bar" the single time I asked for one in order to work on my slides -- [[User:Fraxinas|Fraxinas]] ([[User talk:Fraxinas|talk]])
* Generally felt welcome as a speaker, thanks! I didn't end up using the speaker area as it felt a bit like a 'fish tank' being so exposed to the main road (but that might be a personal hang-up ;) ) -- [[User:Raboof|Raboof]] ([[User talk:Raboof|talk]])
* It would have been nice to have a more 'integrated' programme containing both the 'curated' content and the 'self-organized' sessions. It was nice that some self-organized sessions were added to https://program.mch2022.org but it'd be even nicer to have that 'direct' somehow -- [[User:Raboof|Raboof]] ([[User talk:Raboof|talk]])
* It would have been nice to have an officially-recommended app - Giggity worked great on Android, just promoting that more might have been a good start -- [[User:Raboof|Raboof]] ([[User talk:Raboof|talk]])
* It would be nice to cross-link the schedule with the livestreams/recordings better -- [[User:Raboof|Raboof]] ([[User talk:Raboof|talk]])
* Several of the workshop presenters said they would make their presentations available, but the majority is unfindable. I did understand a presentation can be added to the schedule, but it is hard to spot that this has actually been done. Maybe an independent index with such material can be made and material actively requested? -- [[User:M10|M10]] ([[User talk:M10|talk]])

=== CTF ===

* The CTF as a whole was excellent. Really interesting challenges on multiple categories and I still think this is the best CTF I have attended. Even the easy challenges had nice twists to them, no basic "'or 1=1;-- = flag" here. -- [[User:Onja|Onja]]
* Both the competitors and the organizers I chatted with were very nice and passionate. Organizers gave good hints without giving too much away on couple of the challenges when we were stuck. -- [[User:Onja|Onja]]
* There were plenty of beverages to keep us going, hard part was to remember to eat something once in a while.
* Only complaint I have is about the ctf area: the outside tent was mostly more trouble than it was worth with wind trying to blow the whole tent away and the inside got crowded pretty fast. DT lounge area was nice but I'm not 1337 h4x0r enough to sit there 4 days in a row, my back will kill me. :D -- [[User:Onja|Onja]]
* Looking forward to reading challenge writeups (I still want to hear the creators thoughts on Coinflip even though we eventually managed to solve it). Also I agree that Coinflip was one of the tougher challenges, should have been 200 pts (whine, whine). -- [[User:Onja|Onja]]
* Summary: We will definitely be back next time! -- [[User:Onja|Onja]]

=== Decoration / design ===

* Well done all around -- [[User:SK|SK]] ([[User talk:SK|talk]]) 01:07, 31 July 2022 (CEST)
* The design was so colorful and well thought out, it gave team Deco a lot to work with. Great job! [[User:Moem|Moem]] ([[User talk:Moem|talk]]) 09:22, 31 July 2022 (CEST)
** +1 Agreement from my side -- [[User:Foorschtbar|Foorschtbar]] ([[User talk:Foorschtbar|talk]])
* The deco was really cool, I especially liked the UV-reactive strings that gave the illusion of lasers and the super cute felt plants in the Silent Lounge. -- [[User:Dany|Dany]] ([[User talk:Dany|talk]])
* Both design and deco were amazing! Also great that it was available beforehand, including the 'generator', so villages etc could use it in their preparations as well -- [[User:Raboof|Raboof]] ([[User talk:Raboof|talk]])

=== Family / kids ===

* Great vibe at the zone \o/
* Maybe one or two hot water faucets would be useful (for baby care, for dishwashing, etc)
* Sponsors like to party, maybe keep that in mind when planning in the noise gradient
* As someone without kids I love that people feel welcome to bring theirs, and the atmosphere that comes with that. Accidentally ran into the "balloon folding (for adults)" workshop which was hilarious. Great fun. -- [[User:Raboof|Raboof]] ([[User talk:Raboof|talk]])

=== Finance / coins / payments ===

* Payment by card worked mostly well, other than the supermarket not accepting international cards. My main issue was that the payment system was not well enough explained before the actual event! The blog post and wiki page were pretty long and still left me confused about what the actual payment system on the field was going to end up being. Even a simple "TL;DR we will use regular international payment cards with chip/contactless" would have helped me. [[User:Vurpo|Vurpo]] ([[User talk:Vurpo|talk]]) 21:04, 30 July 2022 (CEST)
* I asked at several bars and the food court where I could get the prepaid card for the MCH payment system, but nobody knew, so I ended up using my regular payment card. [[User:Alxndr|Alxndr]] ([[User talk:Alxndr|talk]]
** The MCH payment system only was operational from day 1 (with paper QR codes) and the ability to print them on plastic cards was added later - [[User:Noor|Noor]]
** yeah communication could have been better, the main problem was that most of it was arranged by one single person (never a good idea). Next time we need to find more people who work on the financial/tickets stuff.
* I liked the idea of the cashless QR-code, especially the later upgrade to a "hard card" rather than just a stub of thermal paper. Avoids using the big payment providers and frees one of having to carry around cash. However I would've loved seeing more universal acceptance around the event (for example at the supermarket). -- [[User:Rot13|Rot13]] ([[User talk:Rot13|talk]])
** +1 Agreement from my side. I missed also the acceptance at the Merch stand -- [[User:Foorschtbar|Foorschtbar]] ([[User talk:Foorschtbar|talk]])
* As a foreigner visiting, I was VERY happy that I could use my card to tap and pay almost everywhere. Get the supermarket on board next time and you get a perfect score from me! The QR code system also worked quite well (I took payment at the bar a few times). I was impressed, well done. - [[User:HerraBRE|HerraBRE]]
* Payment with payment cards in combination with PIN code failed. (only contactless worked, until the 50 euro weekly limit was reached.) [[User:MrLinux|MrLinux]]
* The payment system is too complex and impractical for such an event. At the infodesk there were many questions and complaints on the payment system. People were confused about whether their bank card is accepted or wanted to buy QR-codes with their cards. There were many complaints about the complexity of the payment system. Normally, payment on such events is straightforward (give some money, get a drink). I guess this complicated system also restrained people from buying drinks (just a gut feeling from the number of bottles collected on the field by Team BOC). There were also many people complaining that they could not get unused money from the QR codes (because they had to leave early or came too late). -- [[User:Sirgoofy|sirgoofy]]
* The payment system encouraged people not to bring cash, with is a huge issue for villages -- [[User:Sirgoofy|sirgoofy]]
** Many villages rely on donations to cover costs, e.g., for food or parts for workshops, like the Italian Embassy, Millyways, Team Badge, c3woc (waffles), Chaos Post. Donations in cash are straightforward and understandable. Handling cashless donations is complicated (especially for people donating), expensive (i.e., fees), and requires bank accounts (which many villages don't have as they're just a bunch of people and no legal instance).
** Cashless donations would be handy, though. Many international visitors don't have cash.
** It would be great if people could donate using the QR code system (and buy QR codes cashless) -- [[User:Sirgoofy|sirgoofy]]
* The MCH Payment system was a great benefit. Also that a plastic card could be created that was clearly more robust than the QR code on thermal paper.... Unfortunately, the machine took a long time to accept a bill. In addition, it would be nice to be able to recharge cards so that you can get through the camp with a printed card without directly charging one huge amount. -- [[User:j0chen|j0chen]] ([[User talk:j0chen|talk]])
* An ATM would be great next time. My card was declined most of the time, so I reliant on my cash (and an ATM outside of camp) -- [[User:j0chen|j0chen]] ([[User talk:j0chen|talk]])
** Or a possibility to get some cash at a desk or so? Cash needed to be handled anyway for the QR codes -- [[User:Sirgoofy|sirgoofy]]

=== Harbour / Ferry ===

* Loved the ferry service not as much as a shuttle to the other side of the water way, but as a way to enjoy some quiet time and a light breeze to (mentally) recharge away from the event. -- [[User:Rot13|Rot13]] ([[User talk:Rot13|talk]])
* The Ferry Service was great, and especially the operating hours where great. -- [[User:Justelex|Justelex]] ([[User talk:Justelex|talk]]) +1

=== Information / infodesk / wiki ===

* The infodesk should've been open for longer/as long as possible. (background: I've sat on the NOC helpdesk a bunch of times after the last infodesk angles were gone and dealt with quite a few people that were originally looking for the helpdesk; also being able to respond to infodesk calls for longer). -- [[User:Rot13|Rot13]] ([[User talk:Rot13|talk]])
* Would be nice if the wiki was more usable on mobile -- [[User:Raboof|Raboof]] ([[User talk:Raboof|talk]])
* The infodesk should be open earlier, at least starting day 0. It was unfortunate that the furniture was late (w/o desk no infodesk) -- [[User:Sirgoofy|sirgoofy]]

=== Lounges ===

* Silent lounge was very well done. Nicely decorated and people behaving very considerate (i.e. really tried to be silent). No wonder that it was popular to the point where it could've used more pillows. I was worried that people would start camping inside the lounge (similar things happen at congress for example), but that didn't turn out to be true. I've seen plenty of people taking a nap away from the noise of the event, but thankfully nobody started living inside the lounge. -- [[User:Rot13|Rot13]] ([[User talk:Rot13|talk]])
* Besides the silent lounge, I wish there were more places for people, especially for those without a village, to relax in the shade near an Ethernet port and power outlet. In the harbour there was the wood table with tent roof and the bar with a couple of seats, but both away from power outlets. Otherwise, besides the couple of deckchairs, we mostly hard hard wooden benches near the food court without shade (and no power sockets). -- [[User:Rot13|Rot13]] ([[User talk:Rot13|talk]])
** +1 agreed, a few dedicated shaded outdoor spots would've been nice -- [[User:SK|SK]] ([[User talk:SK|talk]])
** +1 I was going to write the same. Seating on the western part of the food court was hardly used because there was no shadow. Everyone was cramped beneath the roof tent in front of the east bar. On previous events there were more public spaces with roofing, sofas, bean bags, power and network. Nice place with hammocks at the speaker desk but also now shadow. Roof tents would also provide shelter in case of rain (as experienced on previous camps).
** +1 I'd enjoy that as well! Perhaps with some way to announce what you're working on to encourage spontaneous conversations? Not sure how that would work though -- [[User:Raboof|Raboof]] ([[User talk:Raboof|talk]])
** +1 A few shady sitting areas for hackers without Village; with sockets and ethernet sockets would have been very pleasant especially in the sunny and warm weather. -- [[User:j0chen|j0chen]] ([[User talk:j0chen|talk]])

=== Merchandise ===

* The designs look great, I'm a fan of the asymmetry and the patterned sleeves. Not being able to go a size up or down from what you ordered online was kind of disappointing. Not a major issue for myself but I know of several people who were sad about this. The [[merch exchange]] is not a great solution, but better than nothing. --[[User:Juerd|Juerd]] ([[User talk:Juerd|talk]]) 20:54, 30 July 2022 (CEST)
** That mostly was the result of not receiving as many units as we ordered, sadly. -- [[User:Sebastius|Sebastius]] ([[User talk:Sebastius|talk]])
* Merch was great: Awesome design and high quality. Preodering saved me from having to stay in a (humongous) line in the heat. -- [[User:Rot13|Rot13]] ([[User talk:Rot13|talk]])
* I absolutely love the hexagonal patterns and diagrams, but the amount of purple/pink was enough to keep me from buying more than a hat (that, and sizes being too big for me). - [[User:Noor|Noor]] ([[User talk:Noor|talk]])
* Nice merch, despite at first not being a fan of the design. Option to preorder is great. -- [[User:SK|SK]] ([[User talk:SK|talk]])
* OK so maybe I'm a dinosaur, but if I'd known that "fitted" was inclusive for "ladies", I wouldn't have ordered a way-too-small T-shirt. Not a complaint really, but maybe that could have been explained better? Help us old farts get with the program! :-D
** 'Fitted' does not mean 'ladies', it means snug and cut to cling to the body, not baggy and loose. I know plenty of gentlemen who prefer that style. [[User:Moem|Moem]] ([[User talk:Moem|talk]])
* Love the zipper design and quality, will be one of my favourite pieces from now on :) Preorder and pickup was easy and a great option to avoid long queues at the merch booth. -- [[User:Cyb3rk41|Cyb3rk41]] ([[User talk:Cyb3rk41|talk]])
* I love how the shirts and hoodies look, but I'm worried about how well they will hold up when being washed. The rainbow looks like it will fall off just like the yellow SHA robot did. You hardly see the SHA shirts being worn anymore... but OHM and even HAR shirts, yes. [[User:Moem|Moem]] ([[User talk:Moem|talk]])
** +1 love the looks but concerned about the large areas (beam/rainbow) as well - those already seemed to have faded a bit from being folded up in a damp tent... -- [[User:Raboof|Raboof]] ([[User talk:Raboof|talk]])

=== Miscellaneous ===

* Swan family was pretty relaxed with all the people and activity, camping out in the middle of the terrain. - [[User:Noor|Noor]] ([[User talk:Noor|talk]]
* It would be nice to have some angel-staffed dishwashing station (with manual rinse and commercial dishwashers) somewhere, to help with saving water and time, and to increase general hygiene (we all know how camp dish cleanliness standards go...) -- [[User:Q3k|Q3k]] ([[User talk:Q3k|talk]])

=== Music/laser stage / silent disco / Symphony of Fire ===
* The music/laser stage was not a great fit for the event. It drained the villages and talk tents, making those less interesting. Also the whole separate 'party area' does not work for me. I would not miss it if we didn't have one next time. -- [[User:Sebastius|Sebastius]] ([[User talk:Sebastius|talk]])
* No clue why we had a music stage, but if we for some reason must have one, why not have hacker-music on it (e.g. robotic instruments, chiptunes, etc), it was mostly filled with mediocre covers of songs unrelated to the event entirely. [[User:SA007|SA007]] ([[User talk:SA007|talk]])
* Party area was WAY too spacious for the amount of people using it. -- [[User:Sebastius|Sebastius]] ([[User talk:Sebastius|talk]])
* Loved the silent disco setup though. Also really loved it being used at night to allow the byte battle thingie to take place. -- [[User:Sebastius|Sebastius]] ([[User talk:Sebastius|talk]])
* Having hacker built flame throwers which normally look awesome mounted on a commercial stage actually takes away the home-built hacker vibe of those flame throwers. -- [[User:Sebastius|Sebastius]] ([[User talk:Sebastius|talk]])
* Music stage with the flamethrowers, and Symphony of Fire were awesome. - [[User:Noor|Noor]] ([[User talk:Noor|talk]])
* Very well done. Silent disco was a neat solution to the inherent noise conflicts. What exactly is going on could have been a bit more detailed in the schedule, some people were sad they missed interesting things because they didn't realize who was playing. -- [[User:SK|SK]] ([[User talk:SK|talk]])
* For me, the music stage did not really add anything that I would miss if it dit not happen again on a next event. Symphony of Fire was indeed awesome, I wonder if they could have played on a raised podium so more people could have seen what was happening. [[User:Moem|Moem]] ([[User talk:Moem|talk]]) 09:27, 31 July 2022 (CEST)
** +1 -- [[User:Fraxinas|Fraxinas]] ([[User talk:Fraxinas|talk]])
** +1 Agreement from my side -- [[User:Foorschtbar|Foorschtbar]] ([[User talk:Foorschtbar|talk]])
** +1 Symphony of Fire was *the* main act at the stages, a raised podium or bigscreen would have been great that more people can see something. Especially the crowding is perhaps a bit critical with regard to the COVID measures. -- [[User:j0chen|j0chen]] ([[User talk:j0chen|talk]])
* Silent disco was so much fun! More, later, longer please! Seems like a great solution for us party animals who don't want calm after 2am. - [[User:HerraBRE|HerraBRE]]
* Music stage was to loud, to horrible and went on for way to long it and nowhere on the terrain you did not hear it, making sleeping almost impossible for people who actually need proper sleep (yes quiet camping was also to loud). -- [[User:Erik|Erik]] ([[User talk:Erik|talk]])
* Silent disco was a great idea. But for the next time, I'd appreciate it if it wasn't just announced in advance, but if there was also information about the technology, e.g. where/if I can get suitable headphones myself or on which frequencies it runs, so that I can build a receiver myself. As far as I have heard, it was probably possible to receive the radio on the entire camp? -- [[User:j0chen|j0chen]] ([[User talk:j0chen|talk]])

=== NOC / Network ===

* My SFP+ module got to stay in a datenklo. A++++ would camp again. -- [[User:Q3k|Q3k]] ([[User talk:Q3k|talk]])
* Datenklos were sorely missing some CYBER(tm) reflective foil wrapping -- [[User:Rot13|Rot13]] ([[User talk:Rot13|talk]])
** There was a plan for nice aluminium foil/plated cardboard skins with the field name and other decorations on it, but the weather during buildup threw a spanner into that idea... [[User:SA007|SA007]] ([[User talk:SA007|talk]])
** +1 Agreement from my side -- [[User:Foorschtbar|Foorschtbar]] ([[User talk:Foorschtbar|talk]])
* Some system for releasing cables from the datenklo switches at teardown would help. I couldn't recover my uplink cable and then later realised I left without it. Maybe give a key to a nearby village person that would release cables that have no more active link on a regular basis? -- [[User:M10|M10]] ([[User talk:M10|talk]])

=== Power ===

* Thank you very much for not cutting power off after the closing event as at SHA. -- [[User:Malaclypse|Malaclypse]] ([[User talk:Malaclypse|talk]])
** +1 Agreement from my side -- [[User:Foorschtbar|Foorschtbar]] ([[User talk:Foorschtbar|talk]])
* I was really happy to have power available until the very end on wednesday! Thanks for that! -- [[User:Cyb3rk41|Cyb3rk41]] ([[User talk:Cyb3rk41|talk]])
** Agreed. Having power for as long as possible was great. -- [[User:Rot13|Rot13]] ([[User talk:Rot13|talk]])
* The priklichtjes (festoon lights on poles) were a very welcome addition by Team:Power. [[User:Moem|Moem]] ([[User talk:Moem|talk]])
** They helped me greatly in navigating the terrain in the dark, indicating where the paths where between the villages. -- [[User:Rot13|Rot13]] ([[User talk:Rot13|talk]])
*** +1 very nice for indicating paths between tents and nature. -- [[User:j0chen|j0chen]] ([[User talk:j0chen|talk]])
* Very impressed with the PowerTeam, kudos! And we learned an important lesson (the hard way) that long PVC cables lying in wet grass will suck up moisture and trip the 'aardlek' (RCD?). This could be written a lot better in the power wiki page so people can prepare better. Now the neoprene cables are only recommended as the better quality, but not that PVC has negative effects, like taking out two villages for a few hours. -- [[User:M10|M10]] ([[User talk:M10|talk]])
:* In general, the cable should be rated for outdoor usage. PVC cables for outdoor use do exist (and are really nice to use because they're more flexible, especially when it's cold), so a simple list of materials doesn't work. (In case you're interested: harmonized cable types have the material encoded in the type, H05RR-F for example means H = harmonized, 05 = 250V, R = rubber inner insulation, R = rubber outer insulation, F = fine stranded. Neoprene is usually identified as RN, indoor PVC as VV, outdoor PVC as V3V3 (e.g. H05V3V3-F). Not sure if listing all outdoor capable material codes would work; just look for "rated for outdoor use"; the IP44 schuko plug with the ring is a good proxy/heuristic for that.) Oh, and by the way, neoprene can also suck up moisture over time! It's just usually slow enough :) --[[User:Juerd|Juerd]] ([[User talk:Juerd|talk]])

=== Off-Site Logistics ===

* Off-site logistics was a mess, during buildup the schedule was changed drastically without communication about it, we ended up waiting 9 hours for a truck that was smaller than promised requiring a second trip. Teardown I drove the van myself. [[User:SA007|SA007]] ([[User talk:SA007|talk]])

=== On-Site Logistics ===

* Gators are too loud, you can't hear each other inside a tent if they drive by. [[User:SA007|SA007]] ([[User talk:SA007|talk]])
** IIRC electric vehicles were unavaible from the local rental companies, unfortunately [[User:Flimpie|Flimpie]] ([[User talk:Flimpie|talk]]) 22:38, 1 August 2022 (CEST)
** +1 The gators were also so loud that you could barely understand/use the radio when you were sitting in it -- [[User:j0chen|j0chen]] ([[User talk:j0chen|talk]])

=== Other music/noise (outside the official party area) ===

* Please NEVER allow Holoplot to be on the field ever again. And if that is impossible to prevent, at least NOT do a late night party with that system. The volume OUTSIDE the tent was horrifying. -- [[User:Sebastius|Sebastius]] ([[User talk:Sebastius|talk]])
* Bit torn on this one. It is a party event, but there was way too much loud music post 2 AM. Some of us do need sleep. I know, weak etc. I don't recall seeing a clear policy on what is acceptable, might be behind people feeling ok cranking up the volume after midnight. -- [[User:Ahu|Ahu]] ([[User talk:Ahu|talk]])
* The Retro Arcade area was an absolute nuisance at night. They were blasting the neighbouring villages with shitty music and drunken yelling until 2 or 3 am pretty much every day. I can think of several words for this kind of behaviour, and none of them rhyme with "excellent". [[User:Alxndr|Alxndr]] ([[User talk:Alxndr|talk]])
* It seems like while the official policy was 'no noise after 1AM', it wasn't actively enforced for most cases - and I think that enabled people to also treat it a bit more like a hint rather than a rule? Perhaps for future events we should have numerical 'loudness' scores for all fields, forming a gradient, with a higher score letting people be louder and party later, and actually enforce that. That way loud people can camp in loud villages, while those who need peace and quiet can camp in quiet villages. -- [[User:Q3k|Q3k]] ([[User talk:Q3k|talk]])
** I think this was sort-of implemented based on village input, but the usual event fields are just a bit too small for that to work reliably -- [[User:SK|SK]] ([[User talk:SK|talk]])
* This was both badly communicated (FAQ said "until midnight", apparently the actual rule was from 1 am?) and not usefully enforced. Arcade area right next to family village especially apparently could do whatever they wanted. This makes awesome ideas like silent disco for the "official" music stage sadly quite moot. -- [[User:SK|SK]] ([[User talk:SK|talk]])
* second-hand, but if security (i.e. the contact listed for noise complaints on the front page of this wiki!) really responded to calls about this with "don't call us unless there's an actual emergency" some rules seriously need to be re-established -- [[User:SK|SK]] ([[User talk:SK|talk]])
* at the same time small villages further into the "louder sector" (i.e. away from family/silent camping) were told off for having any music on low volume -- [[User:SK|SK]] ([[User talk:SK|talk]])
* Our village was placed in a party area. That was unfortunate. Next time I'll camp in a quiet are even if that means being far away from the village I am interested in. Geraffel adhered to the 1am quiet policy (yay!) but others didn't. They went on till after 4.30 and didn't honor complaints. -- [[User:Mosquito|Mosquito]] ([[User talk:Mosquito|talk]])
* I was sad there was no place to party and dance after 2am. I agree people who want quiet should be able to enjoy quiet, but in a perfect camp there would be room for both. -- [[User:HerraBRE|HerraBRE]]
* The distribution of the Villages and party zones was perhaps not quite ideal, felt the Family Zone (which had asked for quiet) was in the middle of the Party Zone (based on the noise / music) -- [[User:j0chen|j0chen]] ([[User talk:j0chen|talk]])

=== POC / Dect / Fieldphones ===
* I couldn't find advance information as to when the phone / DECT network would be shut off on the wiki, having such information would be useful (but I may just have been looking in the wrong place) -- [[User:Pinoaffe|Pinoaffe]] ([[User talk:Pinoaffe|talk]])
* DECT coverage was great around the whole camp area. -- [[User:Rot13|Rot13]] ([[User talk:Rot13|talk]])
** +1 Agreement from my side -- [[User:Foorschtbar|Foorschtbar]] ([[User talk:Foorschtbar|talk]])
* DECT self-registration worked great (have been used to it for a while now from congress). -- [[User:Rot13|Rot13]] ([[User talk:Rot13|talk]])
** +1 Agreement from my side -- [[User:Foorschtbar|Foorschtbar]] ([[User talk:Foorschtbar|talk]])
* DECT was switched off too early. DECT is mandatory for teardown, especially as the gsm coverage is quite bad -- [[User:Sirgoofy|sirgoofy]]

=== Parcel deliveries ===
* Many people that ordered things to the field were (seemingly) unaware of how parcel deliveries were supposed to work. This caused unnecessary overhead. -- [[User:Pinoaffe|Pinoaffe]] ([[User talk:Pinoaffe|talk]])
* Collaborating with C3Post may be worthwhile for a next event, though they may not want to deal with large packages. -- [[User:Pinoaffe|Pinoaffe]] ([[User talk:Pinoaffe|talk]])
** Delivering anything of real value sounds like a bad idea (on big events). Besides being way more effort than postcards, parcels (pending delivery) would require (secure-ish) storage space while not out for relivery or if the first delivery attempt failed. We'd also need extra couriers and not hand deliveries out to random passing-by hackers, which also leaks the info on the parcel (such as tracking numbers) to said random hackers. Also some postcards just got lost/didn't get delivered, which would be a real issue with parcels. -- [[User:Trilader|Trilader]] ([[User talk:Trilader|talk]])
* Parcel deliveries had a procedure outlined at [[Parcel deliveries]] to keep them manageable, but somehow people still sent packages to the terrain without following the procedure, maybe something to add to the info booklet/advertise more?

=== Press / Media coverage ===

* Put your feedback here :)

=== Productiehuis / C3VOC ===
* MOST EXCELLENT WORK!! -- [[User:Ahu|Ahu]] ([[User talk:Ahu|talk]])
* The video-quality of the (few) talks I watched online was good, and I saw some nice fade effects. [[User:Fhp|Fhp]] ([[User talk:Fhp|talk]])
* The hard cutoff of the intro tune annoys me every time. [[User:Fhp|Fhp]] ([[User talk:Fhp|talk]])
* Kudos to the C3VOC! That was awesome! Video quality was excellent and the fact that each talk appeared in the C3 media archive only a couple of hours later impressed me very much. That is better service than many (or most?) commercial providers deliver. You people are fantastic! -- [[User:Mosquito|Mosquito]] ([[User talk:Mosquito|talk]])
* Nothing short of amazing -- [[User:Raboof|Raboof]] ([[User talk:Raboof|talk]])

=== Projectleiding ===
* Thank you for your work. -- [[User:Justelex|Justelex]] ([[User talk:Justelex|talk]])
** +1 Agreement from my side -- [[User:Foorschtbar|Foorschtbar]] ([[User talk:Foorschtbar|talk]])
** ++ -- [[User:M10|M10]] ([[User talk:M10|talk]])
* <3 -- [[User:Raboof|Raboof]] ([[User talk:Raboof|talk]])

=== ROC ===

* Wheeze and his team did a excellent job!
* Good work by the warehouse team for doing the battery swaps, saved a lot of time! [[User:MrLinux|MrLinux]]
* Nice we had the HAM radio repeater! [[User:MrLinux|MrLinux]]
* The ROC team lacked a bit on publicity, improvement for 2025! [[User:MrLinux|MrLinux]]
* A QSL-wall could be an idea for 2025! [[User:MrLinux|MrLinux]]
* We missed the VERON at the event [[User:MrLinux|MrLinux]]
* Excellent Job. A Laminated card with "Radio rules" and the Channel distribution would be a nice thing to be handed out next time. -- [[User:Justelex|Justelex]] ([[User talk:Justelex|talk]])
** Would definitely be good, just like enforcing the language on the radio, e.g. in a channel that was supposed to be explicitly in English, Dutch was often spoken anyway -- [[User:j0chen|j0chen]] ([[User talk:j0chen|talk]])
* Next time after the DECT comes up, require as many radios as you can to be returned, forcing teams to use dect. Way better audio, point to point connections and people actually being reachable. -- [[User:Sebastius|Sebastius]] ([[User talk:Sebastius|talk]])
* The audio quality sucked. Problem with the chosen technology, i know. Most conversations were completely unintelligible. -- [[User:Sebastius|Sebastius]] ([[User talk:Sebastius|talk]])
* Teach people how to use the radio properly. I still don't know which name goes first etc. -- [[User:Sebastius|Sebastius]] ([[User talk:Sebastius|talk]])
* Reconsider channel system. It happened too often that people were calling/listening on the wrong channel. [[User:Flimpie|Flimpie]] ([[User talk:Flimpie|talk]]) 22:38, 1 August 2022 (CEST)
* Educate people on radio etiquette and how to properly talk into a radio. Yelling/speaking too quietly/having too much BG noise, combined with DMR compression creates inaudible speech [[User:Flimpie|Flimpie]] ([[User talk:Flimpie|talk]]) 22:38, 1 August 2022 (CEST)
* Ensuring that the correct language is spoken. I heard a lot of Dutch during some security angelshifts, even though the channel was supposed to be in English. -- [[User:j0chen|j0chen]] ([[User talk:j0chen|talk]])

=== Safety / stewards / first aid / Fire Marshalls ===

* Phone numbers or other contact information was hard to find at the beginning of the event, added to the wiki later. --[[User:Juerd|Juerd]] ([[User talk:Juerd|talk]]) 20:47, 30 July 2022 (CEST)
* There were no backup mobile phone numbers (at least none published) for reaching the safety teams in case of infrastructure outage, and they were unreachable when the network was down. --[[User:Juerd|Juerd]] ([[User talk:Juerd|talk]]) 20:47, 30 July 2022 (CEST)
* Security: Bike path was open to all, so technically anyone could get on the terrain without a ticket. Which meant at least a few unwelcome visitors. - [[User:Noor|Noor]] ([[User talk:Noor|talk]])
* I was surprised that the fire extinguishers were the first things being collected from our village (Geraffel) during teardown. At this time we still had a lot of people staying and as murphy wills, the fat bowl of our our barbecue catched fire afterwards. Fortunately nothing bad happened but my expectation would be to have extinguishers available until rented tents are torn down / all visitors are gone. At lease in large villages like ours. -- [[User:Cyb3rk41|Cyb3rk41]] ([[User talk:Cyb3rk41|talk]])

=== Shuttle services (train station, and luggage on site) ===

* Shuttle drop-off point on field should have been marked somewhere on the maps or wiki, during build-up. I spent forever asking around trying to find the drop-off point, only to find it at heaven. - [[User:Noor|Noor]] ([[User talk:Noor|talk]])
* Shuttle was efficient and worked well when I used it -- [[User:SK|SK]] ([[User talk:SK|talk]])
* Shuttle ticket was a bit last-minute and unclear (i.e. afaik never produced an actual "ticket", which lead to questions - and in the end was more like a donation than a strictly-required ticket) -- [[User:SK|SK]] ([[User talk:SK|talk]])

=== Supermarket ===

* The supermarket was a really valuable addition to the event, and probably saved lots of fuel and time for people. I found the prices acceptable, and the choice of products was surprisingly broad! --[[User:Juerd|Juerd]] ([[User talk:Juerd|talk]]) 20:47, 30 July 2022 (CEST)
** +1 Agreement from my side -- [[User:Foorschtbar|Foorschtbar]] ([[User talk:Foorschtbar|talk]])
* Supermarket was a great thing and I hope we'll have it at the next event. -- [[User:Rot13|Rot13]] ([[User talk:Rot13|talk]])
* Supermarket was wonderful, it felt like being back in civilization again and I could just zip inside to get a drink or breakfast for the next morning. - [[User:Noor|Noor]] ([[User talk:Noor|talk]])
* was very useful to have and surprisingly well-stocked (i.e. not just packaged junk food). Next time they'll know to bring less soft-drinks and more Ethernet/USB/... cables ;) -- [[User:SK|SK]] ([[User talk:SK|talk]])
* Guests from abroad struggled to make use of the supermarket, since it didn't accept foreign cards and there was no ATM on site. -- [[User:HerraBRE|HerraBRE]]
* The supermarket was a really good idea, however my card was not accepted so I was very dependent on cash - Very limited without an ATM on camp. -- [[User:j0chen|j0chen]] ([[User talk:j0chen|talk]])

=== Sysadmin / bofh ===

* Having had to deal with the crumbling of central infrastructure in other events, I really appreciated the stability of the wiki and Engelsystem before and throughout the event. -- [[User:Rot13|Rot13]] ([[User talk:Rot13|talk]])
* Engelsystem and wiki could've used longer login sessions. Every time I tried to quickly check my angel shifts I had to login again. -- [[User:Rot13|Rot13]] ([[User talk:Rot13|talk]])

=== Terrain ===

* The western way to quiet camping was not accessible: so narrow that you can only go one way at a time and a huge log being in the way.
** I actually opened it up significantly with a trolley, it had 1,5m high weeds on it and was almost overgrown. [[User:SA007|SA007]] ([[User talk:SA007|talk]])
* The quiet camping area (Wilson field) turned out to be quite crammed and could be bigger for the next event. I assume this was caused by the scouts taking some of that area due to the unfortunate double booking. -- [[User:Rot13|Rot13]] ([[User talk:Rot13|talk]])
* The quiet camping really missed a shower container, nearest was the family village, a 15 mins walk. (with sha2017 there was one) [[User:MrLinux|MrLinux]]
* Not something really on us, I knew that the public bike path was to remain open. Most bikers were considerable in slowing down when crossing the Backbone at least, but some seemed to really adamant to enforce the negative stereotypes of people on road bikes. Create some speed bumps with cable ramps next time maybe? -- [[User:Dany|Dany]] ([[User talk:Dany|talk]])
* It would have been good to (more strongly) encourage people with small children to camp in Family Zone and not Quiet Camping (Wilson field). It's unreasonable to expect small children to be quiet all the time, and yet this is what is expected on Wilson. Maybe we can make that clearer. [[User:Moem|Moem]] ([[User talk:Moem|talk]]) 13:49, 31 July 2022 (CEST)
* really loved having the orga tents on the south trunk. For next time, maybe only have those teams on there that actually interact with visitors. -- [[User:Sebastius|Sebastius]] ([[User talk:Sebastius|talk]])
* Next time maybe also place some villages on the south trunk road, the south trunk looked a bit 'dead' now with only orga tents. -- [[User:Sebastius|Sebastius]] ([[User talk:Sebastius|talk]])
* The Zuse 'aux' path over the dike was weird and not signed properly, I walked it at night and actually looked at the map on my phone where the spot should be to get down off the dike. The path seemed to be 'walk up the dike', 'don't see any hint on where the path should be going...', 'look it up', 'walk ~150m to the left without any clue if it is the correct way' 'suddenly find a path down again'. [[User:SA007|SA007]] ([[User talk:SA007|talk]])
* For me, it was the first hacker camp and i like the terrain with the ways, water, lakes, woods etc. much more than other camps, where all tens be a on a very large field -- [[User:Foorschtbar|Foorschtbar]] ([[User talk:Foorschtbar|talk]])
** It was the same for me and I'm also a big fan of the terrain. -- [[User:Rot13|Rot13]] ([[User talk:Rot13|talk]])
* The online map was great - would be nice to 'level it up' for next time: searching on the map, better interlinking with the wiki, export to OsmAnd in a way that allows searching as well, mobile usability, etc -- [[User:Raboof|Raboof]] ([[User talk:Raboof|talk]])
* Having the online map was great, but I wish to have something more optimized for mobile devices for the next event. Performance was poor (in mobile Firefox at least) and I totally missed the options menu for showing villages. -- [[User:Rot13|Rot13]] ([[User talk:Rot13|talk]])

=== Ticket and Entrance ===

* Just works! Thank u -- [[User:Foorschtbar|Foorschtbar]] ([[User talk:Foorschtbar|talk]])

=== Toilets / Showers ===

* The maintenance crew for the toilets/showers did a great job, IMHO, those facilities where usually in very good shape. [[User:Alxndr|Alxndr]] ([[User talk:Alxndr|talk]])
** +1 Agreement from my side -- [[User:Foorschtbar|Foorschtbar]] ([[User talk:Foorschtbar|talk]])
** +1 All facilities were great, better than anything I'm used to -- [[User:j0chen|j0chen]] ([[User talk:j0chen|talk]])
* Easily the best showers of any hacker camp I've been to. -- [[User:Q3k|Q3k]] ([[User talk:Q3k|talk]])
* There should have been showers closer to the quiet camping area. -- [[User:Rot13|Rot13]] ([[User talk:Rot13|talk]])
* This has been my first hacker camp and I don't know the "hacker camp standards" on showers but I know a lot of music festivals. Compared to this, I must say the showering experience was simply great! I always had warm water and never had to queue and this is something I NEVER experienced on any festival yet - I'm used to waiting and then having cold water only. -- [[User:Cyb3rk41|Cyb3rk41]] ([[User talk:Cyb3rk41|talk]])
* Having urinals in all places where normal toilets were available would greatly have contributed to the cleanliness of the toilets, I suppose. -- [[User:Cyb3rk41|Cyb3rk41]] ([[User talk:Cyb3rk41|talk]])
** +1 Agreement from my side -- [[User:Foorschtbar|Foorschtbar]] ([[User talk:Foorschtbar|talk]])
* The showers and toilets were GREAT. Well done everyone involved! Random suggestion: it was warm enough that I would actually have welcomed a (cheaper and more eco-friendly?) cold shower option. -- [[User:HerraBRE|HerraBRE]]

=== Villages ===

* It is useful that villages are distributed over the field beforehand, but I think it would be reasonable to expect villages to 'lay their claim' physically on day 0 at the latest, and from day 1 onwards have any remaining empty space welcome unaffiliated hackers. Forcing unaffiliated hackers onto designated "free for all" areas seems like an antipattern to me. It might be better to have 'dots' on the map rather than 'areas' for distributing the villages, to promote more flexibility? Perhaps we can make pretty 'poles' to put into the ground saying "Village X will be around here, and is a small/medium/big village" for orientation? -- [[User:Raboof|Raboof]] ([[User talk:Raboof|talk]])

=== Village tent/furniture rental (Moebelhaus) ===

* Our tent ended up being rotated by pi/2 compared to the map. This ended up totally throwing off what we were planning. We managed regardless, but it'd be great if in the future these maps would actually reflect reality :). -- [[User:Q3k|Q3k]] ([[User talk:Q3k|talk]])
* Our tent was leaking, especially on the connector between modules. -- [[User:Q3k|Q3k]] ([[User talk:Q3k|talk]])
* Don't see a spot for team tents. The Deco tent had a steel bar all around the bottom, making it really annoying with carts and a trip hazard. [[User:SA007|SA007]] ([[User talk:SA007|talk]])
* Great service, very useful, good stuff. It would be nice to have some way to see which furniture was still 'in flight' and which had already been delivered, to catch missing/misdelivered furniture earlier -- [[User:Raboof|Raboof]] ([[User talk:Raboof|talk]])

=== Visitors ===

* Most visitors were excellent, as always. But in the next few years when thinking of the next event, we should probably talk about people who I guess must be new to this community, that are incredibly lax with the photo/filming policy, and behave like consumers instead of participants. --[[User:Juerd|Juerd]] ([[User talk:Juerd|talk]]) 20:49, 30 July 2022 (CEST)
** agreed, many post in social media contain lots of peoples faces. I doubt that everyone was asked for permission.
* I suspect that there were quite a lot of 'visitors' that didn't have a ticket on site walking around besides the scouts. [[User:SA007|SA007]] ([[User talk:SA007|talk]])

=== Volunteering / Angels ===

* Providing the angels with reusable water bottles was a very good idea. [[User:Alxndr|Alxndr]] ([[User talk:Alxndr|talk]])
** Agreed -- [[User:Rot13|Rot13]] ([[User talk:Rot13|talk]])
** +1 - I did use it a lot more than I expected at first, which was probably quite healthy to do -- [[User:SK|SK]] ([[User talk:SK|talk]])

==== Volunteering ====

* Put your feedback here :)

==== Angel Food ====

* My only complaint about Mecklenb[öoøu]rg(er)? is that I still don't know how to spell their name. The food is wonderful, the people are great too! --[[User:Juerd|Juerd]] ([[User talk:Juerd|talk]]) 20:51, 30 July 2022 (CEST)
** +1 Agreement from my side. The only thing i missed was more sorts of tea. i buyed one box of peppermint tea bags, and they where empty in 1h which means the people like it (more)!? -- [[User:Foorschtbar|Foorschtbar]] ([[User talk:Foorschtbar|talk]])
* The food was great, as always :) -- [[User:Pinoaffe|Pinoaffe]] ([[User talk:Pinoaffe|talk]])
* The angel food was incredible. One of the highlights of this event. -- [[User:Rot13|Rot13]] ([[User talk:Rot13|talk]])
* Angel food was mostly great, except for the dinner on day 0 and some dishes otherwise. I'd also have appreciated some sort of meat at least every other day. - [[User:Noor|Noor]] ([[User talk:Noor|talk]])
* As always very good. Only complaint lack of coffee mugs -- [[User:SK|SK]] ([[User talk:SK|talk]])
** Ha! I think i did order them, but for some reason we didn't get them. Will make a note for next time. -- [[User:Sebastius|Sebastius]] ([[User talk:Sebastius|talk]])
* The Angel food was to die for (sorry, couldn't resist), big thanks to the Mecklenb[öoøu]rg(er) crew for that. Didn't miss a meat option at all. -- [[User:Dany|Dany]] ([[User talk:Dany|talk]])
* I want a Mecklenbørger for my next birthday. It was just so relaxing to know that the kitchen was completely meat-free. [[User:Moem|Moem]] ([[User talk:Moem|talk]]) 13:52, 31 July 2022 (CEST)
* Great food just like at SHA, and nice to have no worries about things containing meat :) -- [[User:F0x|F0x]] ([[User talk:F0x|talk]])

==== Angel Kitchen ====

* Dishwashing was a lot more manageable than at previous events, thanks to the fact that there as more equipment available. -- [[User:Pinoaffe|Pinoaffe]] ([[User talk:Pinoaffe|talk]])

==== Angel desk and Angel system ====

* I'd really like it if the Engelsystem alert emails contained the actual update in the email content. I'd get spammed with email notifications and if I wanted to actually read the update, I'd have to click through and login to the Engelsystem. I just ended up leaving most of those updates unread throughout the day. - [[User:Noor|Noor]] ([[User talk:Noor|talk]])
* Would be nice if the angelsystem was more usable on mobile -- [[User:Raboof|Raboof]] ([[User talk:Raboof|talk]])
* The login sessions could have been a bit longer, I was constantly kicked out when I just wanted to look up something. -- [[User:j0chen|j0chen]] ([[User talk:j0chen|talk]])

==== Heaven ====

* I assume this was just some miscommunication etc, but the outdoor seating was removed too early, esp given covid situation. Otherwise all good. -- [[User:SK|SK]] ([[User talk:SK|talk]])
** Yeah, it happened when i wasn't looking. We should have moved some tables outside. -- [[User:Sebastius|Sebastius]] ([[User talk:Sebastius|talk]])
* The rules for core-team people (which were doing shifts outside the angel-system) for the heaven food should be made more clear. [[User:MrLinux|MrLinux]]
** That was actually really clear. Your teamlead might not have communicated it to you. Red wristband for 'full time work during event' and vouchers obtainable by teamleads for those doing work outside of the angel system. -- [[User:Sebastius|Sebastius]] ([[User talk:Sebastius|talk]])
* I dearly wish we would have had the time to decorate Heaven. Unfortunately, the loss of time during buildup (*shakes fist at the weather gods*) made that impossible. The tent itself was splendid, so spacious. [[User:Moem|Moem]] ([[User talk:Moem|talk]]) 13:54, 31 July 2022 (CEST)
** Ah well, we did a little by ourselves with the parasols, and it was fine! Next time! -- [[User:Sebastius|Sebastius]] ([[User talk:Sebastius|talk]])

=== Warehouse ===

* Warehouse did a really great job. And I requested some really strange things. They even got Powercables and a Compressor for repairing the Flamethrowers. -- [[User:Justelex|Justelex]] ([[User talk:Justelex|talk]])
** +1 Agreement from my side -- [[User:Foorschtbar|Foorschtbar]] ([[User talk:Foorschtbar|talk]])
* Warehouse should maybe stock more small stepladders, I feel they were regularly all in use. Otherwise great supplies. [[User:SA007|SA007]] ([[User talk:SA007|talk]])

=== Waste / garbage / trash ===

* Slightly sad that trash was just split into “glass” and “everything else”. It'd be nice if we could at least recycle cardboard/paper! -- [[User:Q3k|Q3k]] ([[User talk:Q3k|talk]])
** Agreed. Throwing everything into the "Other Waste" containers felt wrong. I understand this was on the waste company dropping the ball. Let's make sure this won't happen at the next event. -- [[User:Rot13|Rot13]] ([[User talk:Rot13|talk]])
** +1 Agreement from my side -- [[User:Foorschtbar|Foorschtbar]] ([[User talk:Foorschtbar|talk]])
** That was the supplier dropping the ball in almost every category. It was in the plan (i co-wrote it) -- [[User:Sebastius|Sebastius]] ([[User talk:Sebastius|talk]])
* an awful lot of mate etc bottles ended up in glass trash I think - the later-deployed bottle collection crates helped with that -- [[User:SK|SK]] ([[User talk:SK|talk]])
** Yeah that happened last time too. We did plan for drop points. Not sure why the points weren't deployed earlier by team Bar. -- [[User:Sebastius|Sebastius]] ([[User talk:Sebastius|talk]])

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== Topics ==

=== General / overall ===

* So happy about the progressive pride and Antifa flag on the tower
* Awesome event again, thanks to everyone who did their part to making it such -- [[User:SK|SK]] ([[User talk:SK|talk]])
* It was fantastic and I am already stoked for the next one! -- [[User:Mosquito|Mosquito]] ([[User talk:Mosquito|talk]])
** +1 Agreement from my side -- [[User:Foorschtbar|Foorschtbar]] ([[User talk:Foorschtbar|talk]])
* I had a great camp overall, it was way more comfortable than I'd expected and things seemed to run smoothly. Being greeted by progressive pride flag on the Orga tent and tower instantly made me feel at ease. -- [[User:Dany|Dany]] ([[User talk:Dany|talk]])
* would be a really good idea to water the ways more often, to prevent the dust. -- [[User:Justelex|Justelex]] ([[User talk:Justelex|talk]])
** I'd be afraid this would quickly turn into mud, and I prefer dust to mud -- [[User:Pinoaffe|Pinoaffe]] ([[User talk:Pinoaffe|talk]])
* It seems that there was so much time spend on nice to haves and to little on must haves resulting in quite a few people beeing totally burned out, I really wonder if its worth it organizing it again next year at this size with this much "consumers" visiting and maybe just going back to a smaller size is nicer, the big presence of sponsors also did not help with this feeling. -- [[User:Erik|Erik]] ([[User talk:Erik|talk]])
** I am not quite sure where you saw those "consumers", especially since that would be quite a high entry price for a consumer (no daytickets and all). As far as I know we didn't finish selling all tickets so it was smaller then expected even. Although I do understand that you are longing for a smaller sized event (there are definitely a couple of those out there), I dearly hope that this event will even grow, since it is quite nice to have more and new people being interested and learning more. Sponsors I am unsure about, since I do know they were a big help in financing the whole event. With the point of being to burned out, that might be a problem of scheduling and volunteering, since there were around ~400 volunteers for the whole event (officially).
* Still amazed by the amount of creativity and community, so many people sharing what they love and are good at -- [[User:Raboof|Raboof]] ([[User talk:Raboof|talk]])

=== Arrival / departure / parking / train shuttle / luggage shuttle ===

* I was surprised twice that empty places in the field were apparently claimed. It was not clear to me that people had staked out places already on the wiki. This would seem to me one of The Most Important Things To Tell People: "whatever is on the wiki wins". Or perhaps abolish that, also fine by me, but in any case be very clear about it. I could also do with an AR app or so that shows me what people claimed :-) -- [[User:Ahu|Ahu]] ([[User talk:Ahu|talk]])
** Next time we should plan some areas for 'those without village', i heard they were planned for this time but they might have gotten lost with the last minute rearranging due to the double booking. -- [[User:Sebastius|Sebastius]] ([[User talk:Sebastius|talk]])
** (moved my feedback here to [[Feedback#Villages]]) -- [[User:Raboof|Raboof]] ([[User talk:Raboof|talk]])
* Last day of the event felt kinda "lost" as people were beginning to tear things down from early on in the day well before the closing event. Was bit of a weird mood/feeling. -- [[User:Rot13|Rot13]] ([[User talk:Rot13|talk]])
** +1 Agreement from my side -- [[User:Foorschtbar|Foorschtbar]] ([[User talk:Foorschtbar|talk]])
** While it is pretty normal for many people to already pack their things on the last day, the problem was certainly exacerbated by the fact that a roundmail on day 4 told all villages that their rented tents had to be "cleaned and empty" no later than 17:30 on day 5. That really gave villages no choice but to tear everything down during daytime on day 5. [[User:PoempelFox|PoempelFox]] ([[User talk:PoempelFox|talk]])
* The parking area was way better then at Sha. A Regular people shuttle on the field with one or two 4+ seater golfcarts would be awesome for pregnant / people that can't walk long distances and so on. (Maybe also on call would be enough) -- [[User:Justelex|Justelex]] ([[User talk:Justelex|talk]])
* "Shuttle goes when it goes" without any indication how long it will take is no option for people who have to catch their train/flight. We had many questions and complaints at the infodesk. A schedule would be great. -- [[User:Sirgoofy|sirgoofy]]
* The shuttle stop changed during the event. It would be great to have a dedicated shuttle stop (with sign and timetable) during the event.
* The payment system for the shuttle was too complicated. We had many questions about buying tickets at the infodesk. People tried to buy tickets in the online shop, but had problems getting their order paid. It would be better to make it free, or allow to pay in cash in the shuttle.

=== Badge ===

* Very well-made and polished badge, really surprised me with the effort put into it and its versatility! [[User:Vurpo|Vurpo]] ([[User talk:Vurpo|talk]]) 21:07, 30 July 2022 (CEST)
** +1 Agreement from my side -- [[User:Foorschtbar|Foorschtbar]] ([[User talk:Foorschtbar|talk]])
* The badge is really nice, but the price of MCH admission is already hindering people we'd like to reach. Perhaps do consider if we really need it. -- [[User:Ahu|Ahu]] ([[User talk:Ahu|talk]])
* Awesome badge, I had a lot of fun tinkering with it during camp and always received helpful advice in the IRC channel. Please keep this project going! [[User:Alxndr|Alxndr]] ([[User talk:Alxndr|talk]])
* The badge is amazing! However, I feel bad that my badges from previous events barely got used and this one is likely to suffer the same fate. For environmental/cost reasons, I kinda wish I could have opted out. Alternately, if there were a way to hand my badge in after the event and know it would be used for educational purposes later on, I would have given it up a heartbeat. -- [[User:HerraBRE|HerraBRE]]
* Really love the badge, it inspired me to try micropython for the first time. Also I find it to be a piece of art, the PCB design is just great. On the other side, I'm also sceptical on the ecological aspects. I fear that many hackers will not use it anymore after the event or even never use it at all. Maybe it would be a good idea to offer badges as an option instead of giving everyone a piece. -- [[User:Cyb3rk41|Cyb3rk41]] ([[User talk:Cyb3rk41|talk]])

=== Bars and food court ===

* The capacity of the food-stands was quite low, which resulted in long waiting times. Not good with hungry kids. [[User:Fhp|Fhp]] ([[User talk:Fhp|talk]])
* Agree with above: low capacity for the commercial food stands. They also didn't seem to grasp the concept of 'lunch'. I expected them to be up and running around 13.00, but most of them weren't, resulting in even longer lines at the places that were open earlier. -- [[User:Dany|Dany]] ([[User talk:Dany|talk]])
* The food stands I've visited (Wok, Fries) had poor in-person advertising of everything that they were actually selling and how much it cost. -- [[User:Rot13|Rot13]] ([[User talk:Rot13|talk]])
* The Johny Cash Burger was great but mostly I fed on waffles by the awesome C3WOC <3. And of course one can rely on the Italian Hackers' Embassy for excellent pasta. By the way... is there a Spanish or French Embassy with similar services? Would put that on my checklist for the next camp. ;-) Oh and Angel Food was also great and healthy. Didn't miss meat there, eating more veg is better for the environment anyways. Thanks for the opportunity! Conclusion: Wide range, many choices, very good! -- [[User:Mosquito|Mosquito]] ([[User talk:Mosquito|talk]])
* Frietsaus is not Mayo. [[User:MrLinux|MrLinux]]
* The split layout of the bar/food area didn't really work. You couldn't see all in one go, so most people only visited one bar making a huge queue there. -- [[User:Sebastius|Sebastius]] ([[User talk:Sebastius|talk]])
* Coffee vendor people had no idea what they were doing. Literally not knowing what a Latte Machiatto is while it's on their menu. -- [[User:Sebastius|Sebastius]] ([[User talk:Sebastius|talk]])
* Next time get food vendors from several companies instead of using one single source. Yes it's more work to set up but this time the overall quality was not great (but acceptable). -- [[User:Sebastius|Sebastius]] ([[User talk:Sebastius|talk]])
* Next time also get some vendors who do varied meals (every day a different choice, like the vegan place at CCCamp2019) at competitive pricing. -- [[User:Sebastius|Sebastius]] ([[User talk:Sebastius|talk]])
* Next time allow Mecklenborger to also have a food-truck for the general public on camp. -- [[User:Sebastius|Sebastius]] ([[User talk:Sebastius|talk]])
* Overall nice. Might be good to promote villages that have good capacity for selling food as well somehow, to make it more 'integrated'? -- [[User:Raboof|Raboof]] ([[User talk:Raboof|talk]])

=== Buildup and teardown ===

* As one of the persons who collected what felt like a kilometre of Flatterband at teardown, and removed a pile of pegs it was attached to, I would like to thank those buildup angels who didn't sink the pegs below ground level. You made my job a lot easier! :) [[User:Alxndr|Alxndr]] ([[User talk:Alxndr|talk]])
** +1 Agreement from my side -- [[User:Foorschtbar|Foorschtbar]] ([[User talk:Foorschtbar|talk]])

=== COVID19 precautions ===

* Thanks for caring about ventilation. [https://grafana.mch2022.org/d/q9gZutJ7z/mch2022?orgId=1&viewPanel=30&from=1658492800367&to=1658853839068 CO2 meters] and open sides weren't in place during the opening talk, but this was fixed quickly after and I heard the security team kept an eye on the graphs. --[[User:Juerd|Juerd]] ([[User talk:Juerd|talk]]) 20:43, 30 July 2022 (CEST)
* I liked the availability of masks and self tests for those who forgot to bring their own. I've heard about a few dozen people who got infected, but there were probably more. Thanks to the rapid tests and the heroes who chose to isolate, we may have averted a disastrous superspreading event. --[[User:Juerd|Juerd]] ([[User talk:Juerd|talk]]) 22:02, 30 July 2022 (CEST)
** +1 Agreement from my side -- [[User:Foorschtbar|Foorschtbar]] ([[User talk:Foorschtbar|talk]])
** Very much appreciated the easy availability of masks and rapid tests. -- [[User:Rot13|Rot13]] ([[User talk:Rot13|talk]])
* It would have been good to switch from recommended to required mask wearing, at least indoors, once it became clear that "personal responsibility" wasn't working out (even in this community, what a disappointment). [[User:Alxndr|Alxndr]] ([[User talk:Alxndr|talk]])
** Agreeing on all points. Was also a bit disappointed. -- [[User:Rot13|Rot13]] ([[User talk:Rot13|talk]])
** Its quite hard to do that in a country where this is not a rule anymore.
* It was good to request/require mask wearing in the food queue in Heaven. It would have been even better to do it from the very beginning. [[User:Moem|Moem]] ([[User talk:Moem|talk]]) 09:20, 31 July 2022 (CEST)

=== Cohesion ===

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=== Content / talks / heralds / speakerdesk / AV / recordings ===

* In the end it worked pretty well, but perhaps do ponder having some "known good" presenter laptops/devices available. This has worked very well for other conferences. I used a 200 euro Chromebook with a throwaway google account. -- [[User:Ahu|Ahu]] ([[User talk:Ahu|talk]])
* This is a matter of taste - if you light up the speakers real well, the audience can enjoy a well lighted speaker. But the speaker then often can't see the audience. And during my talks, I love to actually see the audience. This was better in 2017 (at least in Abacus and Battery). -- [[User:Ahu|Ahu]] ([[User talk:Ahu|talk]])
* The speaker desk and the room to work is absolutely ACE. -- [[User:Ahu|Ahu]] ([[User talk:Ahu|talk]])
* Very friendly and helpful people at the speakerdesk and also Heralds and other Angels. Dry running my laptop with the monitor at the Speaker Desk before the talk made me much calmer once I knew that worked. Thank you! -- [[User:Mosquito|Mosquito]] ([[User talk:Mosquito|talk]])
* had the opposite experience: crablab forgot giving me a speaker badge and was not very hospitable "i'd prefer if you bought your mate at the bar" the single time I asked for one in order to work on my slides -- [[User:Fraxinas|Fraxinas]] ([[User talk:Fraxinas|talk]])
* Generally felt welcome as a speaker, thanks! I didn't end up using the speaker area as it felt a bit like a 'fish tank' being so exposed to the main road (but that might be a personal hang-up ;) ) -- [[User:Raboof|Raboof]] ([[User talk:Raboof|talk]])
* It would have been nice to have a more 'integrated' programme containing both the 'curated' content and the 'self-organized' sessions. It was nice that some self-organized sessions were added to https://program.mch2022.org but it'd be even nicer to have that 'direct' somehow -- [[User:Raboof|Raboof]] ([[User talk:Raboof|talk]])
* It would have been nice to have an officially-recommended app - Giggity worked great on Android, just promoting that more might have been a good start -- [[User:Raboof|Raboof]] ([[User talk:Raboof|talk]])
* It would be nice to cross-link the schedule with the livestreams/recordings better -- [[User:Raboof|Raboof]] ([[User talk:Raboof|talk]])
* Several of the workshop presenters said they would make their presentations available, but the majority is unfindable. I did understand a presentation can be added to the schedule, but it is hard to spot that this has actually been done. Maybe an independent index with such material can be made and material actively requested? -- [[User:M10|M10]] ([[User talk:M10|talk]])

=== CTF ===

* The CTF as a whole was excellent. Really interesting challenges on multiple categories and I still think this is the best CTF I have attended. Even the easy challenges had nice twists to them, no basic "'or 1=1;-- = flag" here. -- [[User:Onja|Onja]]
* Both the competitors and the organizers I chatted with were very nice and passionate. Organizers gave good hints without giving too much away on couple of the challenges when we were stuck. -- [[User:Onja|Onja]]
* There were plenty of beverages to keep us going, hard part was to remember to eat something once in a while.
* Only complaint I have is about the ctf area: the outside tent was mostly more trouble than it was worth with wind trying to blow the whole tent away and the inside got crowded pretty fast. DT lounge area was nice but I'm not 1337 h4x0r enough to sit there 4 days in a row, my back will kill me. :D -- [[User:Onja|Onja]]
* Looking forward to reading challenge writeups (I still want to hear the creators thoughts on Coinflip even though we eventually managed to solve it). Also I agree that Coinflip was one of the tougher challenges, should have been 200 pts (whine, whine). -- [[User:Onja|Onja]]
* Summary: We will definitely be back next time! -- [[User:Onja|Onja]]

=== Decoration / design ===

* Well done all around -- [[User:SK|SK]] ([[User talk:SK|talk]]) 01:07, 31 July 2022 (CEST)
* The design was so colorful and well thought out, it gave team Deco a lot to work with. Great job! [[User:Moem|Moem]] ([[User talk:Moem|talk]]) 09:22, 31 July 2022 (CEST)
** +1 Agreement from my side -- [[User:Foorschtbar|Foorschtbar]] ([[User talk:Foorschtbar|talk]])
* The deco was really cool, I especially liked the UV-reactive strings that gave the illusion of lasers and the super cute felt plants in the Silent Lounge. -- [[User:Dany|Dany]] ([[User talk:Dany|talk]])
* Both design and deco were amazing! Also great that it was available beforehand, including the 'generator', so villages etc could use it in their preparations as well -- [[User:Raboof|Raboof]] ([[User talk:Raboof|talk]])

=== Family / kids ===

* Great vibe at the zone \o/
* Maybe one or two hot water faucets would be useful (for baby care, for dishwashing, etc)
* Sponsors like to party, maybe keep that in mind when planning in the noise gradient
* As someone without kids I love that people feel welcome to bring theirs, and the atmosphere that comes with that. Accidentally ran into the "balloon folding (for adults)" workshop which was hilarious. Great fun. -- [[User:Raboof|Raboof]] ([[User talk:Raboof|talk]])

=== Finance / coins / payments ===

* Payment by card worked mostly well, other than the supermarket not accepting international cards. My main issue was that the payment system was not well enough explained before the actual event! The blog post and wiki page were pretty long and still left me confused about what the actual payment system on the field was going to end up being. Even a simple "TL;DR we will use regular international payment cards with chip/contactless" would have helped me. [[User:Vurpo|Vurpo]] ([[User talk:Vurpo|talk]]) 21:04, 30 July 2022 (CEST)
* I asked at several bars and the food court where I could get the prepaid card for the MCH payment system, but nobody knew, so I ended up using my regular payment card. [[User:Alxndr|Alxndr]] ([[User talk:Alxndr|talk]]
** The MCH payment system only was operational from day 1 (with paper QR codes) and the ability to print them on plastic cards was added later - [[User:Noor|Noor]]
** yeah communication could have been better, the main problem was that most of it was arranged by one single person (never a good idea). Next time we need to find more people who work on the financial/tickets stuff.
* I liked the idea of the cashless QR-code, especially the later upgrade to a "hard card" rather than just a stub of thermal paper. Avoids using the big payment providers and frees one of having to carry around cash. However I would've loved seeing more universal acceptance around the event (for example at the supermarket). -- [[User:Rot13|Rot13]] ([[User talk:Rot13|talk]])
** +1 Agreement from my side. I missed also the acceptance at the Merch stand -- [[User:Foorschtbar|Foorschtbar]] ([[User talk:Foorschtbar|talk]])
* As a foreigner visiting, I was VERY happy that I could use my card to tap and pay almost everywhere. Get the supermarket on board next time and you get a perfect score from me! The QR code system also worked quite well (I took payment at the bar a few times). I was impressed, well done. - [[User:HerraBRE|HerraBRE]]
* Payment with payment cards in combination with PIN code failed. (only contactless worked, until the 50 euro weekly limit was reached.) [[User:MrLinux|MrLinux]]
* The payment system is too complex and impractical for such an event. At the infodesk there were many questions and complaints on the payment system. People were confused about whether their bank card is accepted or wanted to buy QR-codes with their cards. There were many complaints about the complexity of the payment system. Normally, payment on such events is straightforward (give some money, get a drink). I guess this complicated system also restrained people from buying drinks (just a gut feeling from the number of bottles collected on the field by Team BOC). There were also many people complaining that they could not get unused money from the QR codes (because they had to leave early or came too late). -- [[User:Sirgoofy|sirgoofy]]
* The payment system encouraged people not to bring cash, with is a huge issue for villages -- [[User:Sirgoofy|sirgoofy]]
** Many villages rely on donations to cover costs, e.g., for food or parts for workshops, like the Italian Embassy, Millyways, Team Badge, c3woc (waffles), Chaos Post. Donations in cash are straightforward and understandable. Handling cashless donations is complicated (especially for people donating), expensive (i.e., fees), and requires bank accounts (which many villages don't have as they're just a bunch of people and no legal instance).
** Cashless donations would be handy, though. Many international visitors don't have cash.
** It would be great if people could donate using the QR code system (and buy QR codes cashless) -- [[User:Sirgoofy|sirgoofy]]
* The MCH Payment system was a great benefit. Also that a plastic card could be created that was clearly more robust than the QR code on thermal paper.... Unfortunately, the machine took a long time to accept a bill. In addition, it would be nice to be able to recharge cards so that you can get through the camp with a printed card without directly charging one huge amount. -- [[User:j0chen|j0chen]] ([[User talk:j0chen|talk]])
* An ATM would be great next time. My card was declined most of the time, so I reliant on my cash (and an ATM outside of camp) -- [[User:j0chen|j0chen]] ([[User talk:j0chen|talk]])
** Or a possibility to get some cash at a desk or so? Cash needed to be handled anyway for the QR codes -- [[User:Sirgoofy|sirgoofy]]

=== Harbour / Ferry ===

* Loved the ferry service not as much as a shuttle to the other side of the water way, but as a way to enjoy some quiet time and a light breeze to (mentally) recharge away from the event. -- [[User:Rot13|Rot13]] ([[User talk:Rot13|talk]])
* The Ferry Service was great, and especially the operating hours where great. -- [[User:Justelex|Justelex]] ([[User talk:Justelex|talk]]) +1

=== Information / infodesk / wiki ===

* The infodesk should've been open for longer/as long as possible. (background: I've sat on the NOC helpdesk a bunch of times after the last infodesk angles were gone and dealt with quite a few people that were originally looking for the helpdesk; also being able to respond to infodesk calls for longer). -- [[User:Rot13|Rot13]] ([[User talk:Rot13|talk]])
* Would be nice if the wiki was more usable on mobile -- [[User:Raboof|Raboof]] ([[User talk:Raboof|talk]])
* The infodesk should be open earlier, at least starting day 0. It was unfortunate that the furniture was late (w/o desk no infodesk) -- [[User:Sirgoofy|sirgoofy]]

=== Lounges ===

* Silent lounge was very well done. Nicely decorated and people behaving very considerate (i.e. really tried to be silent). No wonder that it was popular to the point where it could've used more pillows. I was worried that people would start camping inside the lounge (similar things happen at congress for example), but that didn't turn out to be true. I've seen plenty of people taking a nap away from the noise of the event, but thankfully nobody started living inside the lounge. -- [[User:Rot13|Rot13]] ([[User talk:Rot13|talk]])
* Besides the silent lounge, I wish there were more places for people, especially for those without a village, to relax in the shade near an Ethernet port and power outlet. In the harbour there was the wood table with tent roof and the bar with a couple of seats, but both away from power outlets. Otherwise, besides the couple of deckchairs, we mostly hard hard wooden benches near the food court without shade (and no power sockets). -- [[User:Rot13|Rot13]] ([[User talk:Rot13|talk]])
** +1 agreed, a few dedicated shaded outdoor spots would've been nice -- [[User:SK|SK]] ([[User talk:SK|talk]])
** +1 I was going to write the same. Seating on the western part of the food court was hardly used because there was no shadow. Everyone was cramped beneath the roof tent in front of the east bar. On previous events there were more public spaces with roofing, sofas, bean bags, power and network. Nice place with hammocks at the speaker desk but also now shadow. Roof tents would also provide shelter in case of rain (as experienced on previous camps).
** +1 I'd enjoy that as well! Perhaps with some way to announce what you're working on to encourage spontaneous conversations? Not sure how that would work though -- [[User:Raboof|Raboof]] ([[User talk:Raboof|talk]])
** +1 A few shady sitting areas for hackers without Village; with sockets and ethernet sockets would have been very pleasant especially in the sunny and warm weather. -- [[User:j0chen|j0chen]] ([[User talk:j0chen|talk]])

=== Merchandise ===

* The designs look great, I'm a fan of the asymmetry and the patterned sleeves. Not being able to go a size up or down from what you ordered online was kind of disappointing. Not a major issue for myself but I know of several people who were sad about this. The [[merch exchange]] is not a great solution, but better than nothing. --[[User:Juerd|Juerd]] ([[User talk:Juerd|talk]]) 20:54, 30 July 2022 (CEST)
** That mostly was the result of not receiving as many units as we ordered, sadly. -- [[User:Sebastius|Sebastius]] ([[User talk:Sebastius|talk]])
* Merch was great: Awesome design and high quality. Preodering saved me from having to stay in a (humongous) line in the heat. -- [[User:Rot13|Rot13]] ([[User talk:Rot13|talk]])
* I absolutely love the hexagonal patterns and diagrams, but the amount of purple/pink was enough to keep me from buying more than a hat (that, and sizes being too big for me). - [[User:Noor|Noor]] ([[User talk:Noor|talk]])
* Nice merch, despite at first not being a fan of the design. Option to preorder is great. -- [[User:SK|SK]] ([[User talk:SK|talk]])
* OK so maybe I'm a dinosaur, but if I'd known that "fitted" was inclusive for "ladies", I wouldn't have ordered a way-too-small T-shirt. Not a complaint really, but maybe that could have been explained better? Help us old farts get with the program! :-D
** 'Fitted' does not mean 'ladies', it means snug and cut to cling to the body, not baggy and loose. I know plenty of gentlemen who prefer that style. [[User:Moem|Moem]] ([[User talk:Moem|talk]])
* Love the zipper design and quality, will be one of my favourite pieces from now on :) Preorder and pickup was easy and a great option to avoid long queues at the merch booth. -- [[User:Cyb3rk41|Cyb3rk41]] ([[User talk:Cyb3rk41|talk]])
* I love how the shirts and hoodies look, but I'm worried about how well they will hold up when being washed. The rainbow looks like it will fall off just like the yellow SHA robot did. You hardly see the SHA shirts being worn anymore... but OHM and even HAR shirts, yes. [[User:Moem|Moem]] ([[User talk:Moem|talk]])
** +1 love the looks but concerned about the large areas (beam/rainbow) as well - those already seemed to have faded a bit from being folded up in a damp tent... -- [[User:Raboof|Raboof]] ([[User talk:Raboof|talk]])

=== Miscellaneous ===

* Swan family was pretty relaxed with all the people and activity, camping out in the middle of the terrain. - [[User:Noor|Noor]] ([[User talk:Noor|talk]]
* It would be nice to have some angel-staffed dishwashing station (with manual rinse and commercial dishwashers) somewhere, to help with saving water and time, and to increase general hygiene (we all know how camp dish cleanliness standards go...) -- [[User:Q3k|Q3k]] ([[User talk:Q3k|talk]])

=== Music/laser stage / silent disco / Symphony of Fire ===
* The music/laser stage was not a great fit for the event. It drained the villages and talk tents, making those less interesting. Also the whole separate 'party area' does not work for me. I would not miss it if we didn't have one next time. -- [[User:Sebastius|Sebastius]] ([[User talk:Sebastius|talk]])
* No clue why we had a music stage, but if we for some reason must have one, why not have hacker-music on it (e.g. robotic instruments, chiptunes, etc), it was mostly filled with mediocre covers of songs unrelated to the event entirely. [[User:SA007|SA007]] ([[User talk:SA007|talk]])
* Party area was WAY too spacious for the amount of people using it. -- [[User:Sebastius|Sebastius]] ([[User talk:Sebastius|talk]])
* Loved the silent disco setup though. Also really loved it being used at night to allow the byte battle thingie to take place. -- [[User:Sebastius|Sebastius]] ([[User talk:Sebastius|talk]])
* Having hacker built flame throwers which normally look awesome mounted on a commercial stage actually takes away the home-built hacker vibe of those flame throwers. -- [[User:Sebastius|Sebastius]] ([[User talk:Sebastius|talk]])
* Music stage with the flamethrowers, and Symphony of Fire were awesome. - [[User:Noor|Noor]] ([[User talk:Noor|talk]])
* Very well done. Silent disco was a neat solution to the inherent noise conflicts. What exactly is going on could have been a bit more detailed in the schedule, some people were sad they missed interesting things because they didn't realize who was playing. -- [[User:SK|SK]] ([[User talk:SK|talk]])
* For me, the music stage did not really add anything that I would miss if it dit not happen again on a next event. Symphony of Fire was indeed awesome, I wonder if they could have played on a raised podium so more people could have seen what was happening. [[User:Moem|Moem]] ([[User talk:Moem|talk]]) 09:27, 31 July 2022 (CEST)
** +1 -- [[User:Fraxinas|Fraxinas]] ([[User talk:Fraxinas|talk]])
** +1 Agreement from my side -- [[User:Foorschtbar|Foorschtbar]] ([[User talk:Foorschtbar|talk]])
** +1 Symphony of Fire was *the* main act at the stages, a raised podium or bigscreen would have been great that more people can see something. Especially the crowding is perhaps a bit critical with regard to the COVID measures. -- [[User:j0chen|j0chen]] ([[User talk:j0chen|talk]])
* Silent disco was so much fun! More, later, longer please! Seems like a great solution for us party animals who don't want calm after 2am. - [[User:HerraBRE|HerraBRE]]
* Music stage was to loud, to horrible and went on for way to long it and nowhere on the terrain you did not hear it, making sleeping almost impossible for people who actually need proper sleep (yes quiet camping was also to loud). -- [[User:Erik|Erik]] ([[User talk:Erik|talk]])
* Silent disco was a great idea. But for the next time, I'd appreciate it if it wasn't just announced in advance, but if there was also information about the technology, e.g. where/if I can get suitable headphones myself or on which frequencies it runs, so that I can build a receiver myself. As far as I have heard, it was probably possible to receive the radio on the entire camp? -- [[User:j0chen|j0chen]] ([[User talk:j0chen|talk]])

=== NOC / Network ===

* My SFP+ module got to stay in a datenklo. A++++ would camp again. -- [[User:Q3k|Q3k]] ([[User talk:Q3k|talk]])
* Datenklos were sorely missing some CYBER(tm) reflective foil wrapping -- [[User:Rot13|Rot13]] ([[User talk:Rot13|talk]])
** There was a plan for nice aluminium foil/plated cardboard skins with the field name and other decorations on it, but the weather during buildup threw a spanner into that idea... [[User:SA007|SA007]] ([[User talk:SA007|talk]])
** +1 Agreement from my side -- [[User:Foorschtbar|Foorschtbar]] ([[User talk:Foorschtbar|talk]])
* Some system for releasing cables from the datenklo switches at teardown would help. I couldn't recover my uplink cable and then later realised I left without it. Maybe give a key to a nearby village person that would release cables that have no more active link on a regular basis? -- [[User:M10|M10]] ([[User talk:M10|talk]])

=== Power ===

* Thank you very much for not cutting power off after the closing event as at SHA. -- [[User:Malaclypse|Malaclypse]] ([[User talk:Malaclypse|talk]])
** +1 Agreement from my side -- [[User:Foorschtbar|Foorschtbar]] ([[User talk:Foorschtbar|talk]])
* I was really happy to have power available until the very end on wednesday! Thanks for that! -- [[User:Cyb3rk41|Cyb3rk41]] ([[User talk:Cyb3rk41|talk]])
** Agreed. Having power for as long as possible was great. -- [[User:Rot13|Rot13]] ([[User talk:Rot13|talk]])
* The priklichtjes (festoon lights on poles) were a very welcome addition by Team:Power. [[User:Moem|Moem]] ([[User talk:Moem|talk]])
** They helped me greatly in navigating the terrain in the dark, indicating where the paths where between the villages. -- [[User:Rot13|Rot13]] ([[User talk:Rot13|talk]])
*** +1 very nice for indicating paths between tents and nature. -- [[User:j0chen|j0chen]] ([[User talk:j0chen|talk]])
* Very impressed with the PowerTeam, kudos! And we learned an important lesson (the hard way) that long PVC cables lying in wet grass will suck up moisture and trip the 'aardlek' (RCD?). This could be written a lot better in the power wiki page so people can prepare better. Now the neoprene cables are only recommended as the better quality, but not that PVC has negative effects, like taking out two villages for a few hours. -- [[User:M10|M10]] ([[User talk:M10|talk]])
:* In general, the cable should be rated for outdoor usage. PVC cables for outdoor use do exist (and are really nice to use because they're more flexible, especially when it's cold), so a simple list of materials doesn't work. (In case you're interested: harmonized cable types have the material encoded in the type, H05RR-F for example means H = harmonized, 05 = 250V, R = rubber inner insulation, R = rubber outer insulation, F = fine stranded. Neoprene is usually identified as RN, indoor PVC as VV, outdoor PVC as V3V3 (e.g. H05V3V3-F). Not sure if listing all outdoor capable material codes would work; just look for "rated for outdoor use"; the IP44 schuko plug with the ring is a good proxy/heuristic for that.) Oh, and by the way, neoprene can also suck up moisture over time! It's just usually slow enough :)

=== Off-Site Logistics ===

* Off-site logistics was a mess, during buildup the schedule was changed drastically without communication about it, we ended up waiting 9 hours for a truck that was smaller than promised requiring a second trip. Teardown I drove the van myself. [[User:SA007|SA007]] ([[User talk:SA007|talk]])

=== On-Site Logistics ===

* Gators are too loud, you can't hear each other inside a tent if they drive by. [[User:SA007|SA007]] ([[User talk:SA007|talk]])
** IIRC electric vehicles were unavaible from the local rental companies, unfortunately [[User:Flimpie|Flimpie]] ([[User talk:Flimpie|talk]]) 22:38, 1 August 2022 (CEST)
** +1 The gators were also so loud that you could barely understand/use the radio when you were sitting in it -- [[User:j0chen|j0chen]] ([[User talk:j0chen|talk]])

=== Other music/noise (outside the official party area) ===

* Please NEVER allow Holoplot to be on the field ever again. And if that is impossible to prevent, at least NOT do a late night party with that system. The volume OUTSIDE the tent was horrifying. -- [[User:Sebastius|Sebastius]] ([[User talk:Sebastius|talk]])
* Bit torn on this one. It is a party event, but there was way too much loud music post 2 AM. Some of us do need sleep. I know, weak etc. I don't recall seeing a clear policy on what is acceptable, might be behind people feeling ok cranking up the volume after midnight. -- [[User:Ahu|Ahu]] ([[User talk:Ahu|talk]])
* The Retro Arcade area was an absolute nuisance at night. They were blasting the neighbouring villages with shitty music and drunken yelling until 2 or 3 am pretty much every day. I can think of several words for this kind of behaviour, and none of them rhyme with "excellent". [[User:Alxndr|Alxndr]] ([[User talk:Alxndr|talk]])
* It seems like while the official policy was 'no noise after 1AM', it wasn't actively enforced for most cases - and I think that enabled people to also treat it a bit more like a hint rather than a rule? Perhaps for future events we should have numerical 'loudness' scores for all fields, forming a gradient, with a higher score letting people be louder and party later, and actually enforce that. That way loud people can camp in loud villages, while those who need peace and quiet can camp in quiet villages. -- [[User:Q3k|Q3k]] ([[User talk:Q3k|talk]])
** I think this was sort-of implemented based on village input, but the usual event fields are just a bit too small for that to work reliably -- [[User:SK|SK]] ([[User talk:SK|talk]])
* This was both badly communicated (FAQ said "until midnight", apparently the actual rule was from 1 am?) and not usefully enforced. Arcade area right next to family village especially apparently could do whatever they wanted. This makes awesome ideas like silent disco for the "official" music stage sadly quite moot. -- [[User:SK|SK]] ([[User talk:SK|talk]])
* second-hand, but if security (i.e. the contact listed for noise complaints on the front page of this wiki!) really responded to calls about this with "don't call us unless there's an actual emergency" some rules seriously need to be re-established -- [[User:SK|SK]] ([[User talk:SK|talk]])
* at the same time small villages further into the "louder sector" (i.e. away from family/silent camping) were told off for having any music on low volume -- [[User:SK|SK]] ([[User talk:SK|talk]])
* Our village was placed in a party area. That was unfortunate. Next time I'll camp in a quiet are even if that means being far away from the village I am interested in. Geraffel adhered to the 1am quiet policy (yay!) but others didn't. They went on till after 4.30 and didn't honor complaints. -- [[User:Mosquito|Mosquito]] ([[User talk:Mosquito|talk]])
* I was sad there was no place to party and dance after 2am. I agree people who want quiet should be able to enjoy quiet, but in a perfect camp there would be room for both. -- [[User:HerraBRE|HerraBRE]]
* The distribution of the Villages and party zones was perhaps not quite ideal, felt the Family Zone (which had asked for quiet) was in the middle of the Party Zone (based on the noise / music) -- [[User:j0chen|j0chen]] ([[User talk:j0chen|talk]])

=== POC / Dect / Fieldphones ===
* I couldn't find advance information as to when the phone / DECT network would be shut off on the wiki, having such information would be useful (but I may just have been looking in the wrong place) -- [[User:Pinoaffe|Pinoaffe]] ([[User talk:Pinoaffe|talk]])
* DECT coverage was great around the whole camp area. -- [[User:Rot13|Rot13]] ([[User talk:Rot13|talk]])
** +1 Agreement from my side -- [[User:Foorschtbar|Foorschtbar]] ([[User talk:Foorschtbar|talk]])
* DECT self-registration worked great (have been used to it for a while now from congress). -- [[User:Rot13|Rot13]] ([[User talk:Rot13|talk]])
** +1 Agreement from my side -- [[User:Foorschtbar|Foorschtbar]] ([[User talk:Foorschtbar|talk]])
* DECT was switched off too early. DECT is mandatory for teardown, especially as the gsm coverage is quite bad -- [[User:Sirgoofy|sirgoofy]]

=== Parcel deliveries ===
* Many people that ordered things to the field were (seemingly) unaware of how parcel deliveries were supposed to work. This caused unnecessary overhead. -- [[User:Pinoaffe|Pinoaffe]] ([[User talk:Pinoaffe|talk]])
* Collaborating with C3Post may be worthwhile for a next event, though they may not want to deal with large packages. -- [[User:Pinoaffe|Pinoaffe]] ([[User talk:Pinoaffe|talk]])
** Delivering anything of real value sounds like a bad idea (on big events). Besides being way more effort than postcards, parcels (pending delivery) would require (secure-ish) storage space while not out for relivery or if the first delivery attempt failed. We'd also need extra couriers and not hand deliveries out to random passing-by hackers, which also leaks the info on the parcel (such as tracking numbers) to said random hackers. Also some postcards just got lost/didn't get delivered, which would be a real issue with parcels. -- [[User:Trilader|Trilader]] ([[User talk:Trilader|talk]])
* Parcel deliveries had a procedure outlined at [[Parcel deliveries]] to keep them manageable, but somehow people still sent packages to the terrain without following the procedure, maybe something to add to the info booklet/advertise more?

=== Press / Media coverage ===

* Put your feedback here :)

=== Productiehuis / C3VOC ===
* MOST EXCELLENT WORK!! -- [[User:Ahu|Ahu]] ([[User talk:Ahu|talk]])
* The video-quality of the (few) talks I watched online was good, and I saw some nice fade effects. [[User:Fhp|Fhp]] ([[User talk:Fhp|talk]])
* The hard cutoff of the intro tune annoys me every time. [[User:Fhp|Fhp]] ([[User talk:Fhp|talk]])
* Kudos to the C3VOC! That was awesome! Video quality was excellent and the fact that each talk appeared in the C3 media archive only a couple of hours later impressed me very much. That is better service than many (or most?) commercial providers deliver. You people are fantastic! -- [[User:Mosquito|Mosquito]] ([[User talk:Mosquito|talk]])
* Nothing short of amazing -- [[User:Raboof|Raboof]] ([[User talk:Raboof|talk]])

=== Projectleiding ===
* Thank you for your work. -- [[User:Justelex|Justelex]] ([[User talk:Justelex|talk]])
** +1 Agreement from my side -- [[User:Foorschtbar|Foorschtbar]] ([[User talk:Foorschtbar|talk]])
** ++ -- [[User:M10|M10]] ([[User talk:M10|talk]])
* <3 -- [[User:Raboof|Raboof]] ([[User talk:Raboof|talk]])

=== ROC ===

* Wheeze and his team did a excellent job!
* Good work by the warehouse team for doing the battery swaps, saved a lot of time! [[User:MrLinux|MrLinux]]
* Nice we had the HAM radio repeater! [[User:MrLinux|MrLinux]]
* The ROC team lacked a bit on publicity, improvement for 2025! [[User:MrLinux|MrLinux]]
* A QSL-wall could be an idea for 2025! [[User:MrLinux|MrLinux]]
* We missed the VERON at the event [[User:MrLinux|MrLinux]]
* Excellent Job. A Laminated card with "Radio rules" and the Channel distribution would be a nice thing to be handed out next time. -- [[User:Justelex|Justelex]] ([[User talk:Justelex|talk]])
** Would definitely be good, just like enforcing the language on the radio, e.g. in a channel that was supposed to be explicitly in English, Dutch was often spoken anyway -- [[User:j0chen|j0chen]] ([[User talk:j0chen|talk]])
* Next time after the DECT comes up, require as many radios as you can to be returned, forcing teams to use dect. Way better audio, point to point connections and people actually being reachable. -- [[User:Sebastius|Sebastius]] ([[User talk:Sebastius|talk]])
* The audio quality sucked. Problem with the chosen technology, i know. Most conversations were completely unintelligible. -- [[User:Sebastius|Sebastius]] ([[User talk:Sebastius|talk]])
* Teach people how to use the radio properly. I still don't know which name goes first etc. -- [[User:Sebastius|Sebastius]] ([[User talk:Sebastius|talk]])
* Reconsider channel system. It happened too often that people were calling/listening on the wrong channel. [[User:Flimpie|Flimpie]] ([[User talk:Flimpie|talk]]) 22:38, 1 August 2022 (CEST)
* Educate people on radio etiquette and how to properly talk into a radio. Yelling/speaking too quietly/having too much BG noise, combined with DMR compression creates inaudible speech [[User:Flimpie|Flimpie]] ([[User talk:Flimpie|talk]]) 22:38, 1 August 2022 (CEST)
* Ensuring that the correct language is spoken. I heard a lot of Dutch during some security angelshifts, even though the channel was supposed to be in English. -- [[User:j0chen|j0chen]] ([[User talk:j0chen|talk]])

=== Safety / stewards / first aid / Fire Marshalls ===

* Phone numbers or other contact information was hard to find at the beginning of the event, added to the wiki later. --[[User:Juerd|Juerd]] ([[User talk:Juerd|talk]]) 20:47, 30 July 2022 (CEST)
* There were no backup mobile phone numbers (at least none published) for reaching the safety teams in case of infrastructure outage, and they were unreachable when the network was down. --[[User:Juerd|Juerd]] ([[User talk:Juerd|talk]]) 20:47, 30 July 2022 (CEST)
* Security: Bike path was open to all, so technically anyone could get on the terrain without a ticket. Which meant at least a few unwelcome visitors. - [[User:Noor|Noor]] ([[User talk:Noor|talk]])
* I was surprised that the fire extinguishers were the first things being collected from our village (Geraffel) during teardown. At this time we still had a lot of people staying and as murphy wills, the fat bowl of our our barbecue catched fire afterwards. Fortunately nothing bad happened but my expectation would be to have extinguishers available until rented tents are torn down / all visitors are gone. At lease in large villages like ours. -- [[User:Cyb3rk41|Cyb3rk41]] ([[User talk:Cyb3rk41|talk]])

=== Shuttle services (train station, and luggage on site) ===

* Shuttle drop-off point on field should have been marked somewhere on the maps or wiki, during build-up. I spent forever asking around trying to find the drop-off point, only to find it at heaven. - [[User:Noor|Noor]] ([[User talk:Noor|talk]])
* Shuttle was efficient and worked well when I used it -- [[User:SK|SK]] ([[User talk:SK|talk]])
* Shuttle ticket was a bit last-minute and unclear (i.e. afaik never produced an actual "ticket", which lead to questions - and in the end was more like a donation than a strictly-required ticket) -- [[User:SK|SK]] ([[User talk:SK|talk]])

=== Supermarket ===

* The supermarket was a really valuable addition to the event, and probably saved lots of fuel and time for people. I found the prices acceptable, and the choice of products was surprisingly broad! --[[User:Juerd|Juerd]] ([[User talk:Juerd|talk]]) 20:47, 30 July 2022 (CEST)
** +1 Agreement from my side -- [[User:Foorschtbar|Foorschtbar]] ([[User talk:Foorschtbar|talk]])
* Supermarket was a great thing and I hope we'll have it at the next event. -- [[User:Rot13|Rot13]] ([[User talk:Rot13|talk]])
* Supermarket was wonderful, it felt like being back in civilization again and I could just zip inside to get a drink or breakfast for the next morning. - [[User:Noor|Noor]] ([[User talk:Noor|talk]])
* was very useful to have and surprisingly well-stocked (i.e. not just packaged junk food). Next time they'll know to bring less soft-drinks and more Ethernet/USB/... cables ;) -- [[User:SK|SK]] ([[User talk:SK|talk]])
* Guests from abroad struggled to make use of the supermarket, since it didn't accept foreign cards and there was no ATM on site. -- [[User:HerraBRE|HerraBRE]]
* The supermarket was a really good idea, however my card was not accepted so I was very dependent on cash - Very limited without an ATM on camp. -- [[User:j0chen|j0chen]] ([[User talk:j0chen|talk]])

=== Sysadmin / bofh ===

* Having had to deal with the crumbling of central infrastructure in other events, I really appreciated the stability of the wiki and Engelsystem before and throughout the event. -- [[User:Rot13|Rot13]] ([[User talk:Rot13|talk]])
* Engelsystem and wiki could've used longer login sessions. Every time I tried to quickly check my angel shifts I had to login again. -- [[User:Rot13|Rot13]] ([[User talk:Rot13|talk]])

=== Terrain ===

* The western way to quiet camping was not accessible: so narrow that you can only go one way at a time and a huge log being in the way.
** I actually opened it up significantly with a trolley, it had 1,5m high weeds on it and was almost overgrown. [[User:SA007|SA007]] ([[User talk:SA007|talk]])
* The quiet camping area (Wilson field) turned out to be quite crammed and could be bigger for the next event. I assume this was caused by the scouts taking some of that area due to the unfortunate double booking. -- [[User:Rot13|Rot13]] ([[User talk:Rot13|talk]])
* The quiet camping really missed a shower container, nearest was the family village, a 15 mins walk. (with sha2017 there was one) [[User:MrLinux|MrLinux]]
* Not something really on us, I knew that the public bike path was to remain open. Most bikers were considerable in slowing down when crossing the Backbone at least, but some seemed to really adamant to enforce the negative stereotypes of people on road bikes. Create some speed bumps with cable ramps next time maybe? -- [[User:Dany|Dany]] ([[User talk:Dany|talk]])
* It would have been good to (more strongly) encourage people with small children to camp in Family Zone and not Quiet Camping (Wilson field). It's unreasonable to expect small children to be quiet all the time, and yet this is what is expected on Wilson. Maybe we can make that clearer. [[User:Moem|Moem]] ([[User talk:Moem|talk]]) 13:49, 31 July 2022 (CEST)
* really loved having the orga tents on the south trunk. For next time, maybe only have those teams on there that actually interact with visitors. -- [[User:Sebastius|Sebastius]] ([[User talk:Sebastius|talk]])
* Next time maybe also place some villages on the south trunk road, the south trunk looked a bit 'dead' now with only orga tents. -- [[User:Sebastius|Sebastius]] ([[User talk:Sebastius|talk]])
* The Zuse 'aux' path over the dike was weird and not signed properly, I walked it at night and actually looked at the map on my phone where the spot should be to get down off the dike. The path seemed to be 'walk up the dike', 'don't see any hint on where the path should be going...', 'look it up', 'walk ~150m to the left without any clue if it is the correct way' 'suddenly find a path down again'. [[User:SA007|SA007]] ([[User talk:SA007|talk]])
* For me, it was the first hacker camp and i like the terrain with the ways, water, lakes, woods etc. much more than other camps, where all tens be a on a very large field -- [[User:Foorschtbar|Foorschtbar]] ([[User talk:Foorschtbar|talk]])
** It was the same for me and I'm also a big fan of the terrain. -- [[User:Rot13|Rot13]] ([[User talk:Rot13|talk]])
* The online map was great - would be nice to 'level it up' for next time: searching on the map, better interlinking with the wiki, export to OsmAnd in a way that allows searching as well, mobile usability, etc -- [[User:Raboof|Raboof]] ([[User talk:Raboof|talk]])
* Having the online map was great, but I wish to have something more optimized for mobile devices for the next event. Performance was poor (in mobile Firefox at least) and I totally missed the options menu for showing villages. -- [[User:Rot13|Rot13]] ([[User talk:Rot13|talk]])

=== Ticket and Entrance ===

* Just works! Thank u -- [[User:Foorschtbar|Foorschtbar]] ([[User talk:Foorschtbar|talk]])

=== Toilets / Showers ===

* The maintenance crew for the toilets/showers did a great job, IMHO, those facilities where usually in very good shape. [[User:Alxndr|Alxndr]] ([[User talk:Alxndr|talk]])
** +1 Agreement from my side -- [[User:Foorschtbar|Foorschtbar]] ([[User talk:Foorschtbar|talk]])
** +1 All facilities were great, better than anything I'm used to -- [[User:j0chen|j0chen]] ([[User talk:j0chen|talk]])
* Easily the best showers of any hacker camp I've been to. -- [[User:Q3k|Q3k]] ([[User talk:Q3k|talk]])
* There should have been showers closer to the quiet camping area. -- [[User:Rot13|Rot13]] ([[User talk:Rot13|talk]])
* This has been my first hacker camp and I don't know the "hacker camp standards" on showers but I know a lot of music festivals. Compared to this, I must say the showering experience was simply great! I always had warm water and never had to queue and this is something I NEVER experienced on any festival yet - I'm used to waiting and then having cold water only. -- [[User:Cyb3rk41|Cyb3rk41]] ([[User talk:Cyb3rk41|talk]])
* Having urinals in all places where normal toilets were available would greatly have contributed to the cleanliness of the toilets, I suppose. -- [[User:Cyb3rk41|Cyb3rk41]] ([[User talk:Cyb3rk41|talk]])
** +1 Agreement from my side -- [[User:Foorschtbar|Foorschtbar]] ([[User talk:Foorschtbar|talk]])
* The showers and toilets were GREAT. Well done everyone involved! Random suggestion: it was warm enough that I would actually have welcomed a (cheaper and more eco-friendly?) cold shower option. -- [[User:HerraBRE|HerraBRE]]

=== Villages ===

* It is useful that villages are distributed over the field beforehand, but I think it would be reasonable to expect villages to 'lay their claim' physically on day 0 at the latest, and from day 1 onwards have any remaining empty space welcome unaffiliated hackers. Forcing unaffiliated hackers onto designated "free for all" areas seems like an antipattern to me. It might be better to have 'dots' on the map rather than 'areas' for distributing the villages, to promote more flexibility? Perhaps we can make pretty 'poles' to put into the ground saying "Village X will be around here, and is a small/medium/big village" for orientation? -- [[User:Raboof|Raboof]] ([[User talk:Raboof|talk]])

=== Village tent/furniture rental (Moebelhaus) ===

* Our tent ended up being rotated by pi/2 compared to the map. This ended up totally throwing off what we were planning. We managed regardless, but it'd be great if in the future these maps would actually reflect reality :). -- [[User:Q3k|Q3k]] ([[User talk:Q3k|talk]])
* Our tent was leaking, especially on the connector between modules. -- [[User:Q3k|Q3k]] ([[User talk:Q3k|talk]])
* Don't see a spot for team tents. The Deco tent had a steel bar all around the bottom, making it really annoying with carts and a trip hazard. [[User:SA007|SA007]] ([[User talk:SA007|talk]])
* Great service, very useful, good stuff. It would be nice to have some way to see which furniture was still 'in flight' and which had already been delivered, to catch missing/misdelivered furniture earlier -- [[User:Raboof|Raboof]] ([[User talk:Raboof|talk]])

=== Visitors ===

* Most visitors were excellent, as always. But in the next few years when thinking of the next event, we should probably talk about people who I guess must be new to this community, that are incredibly lax with the photo/filming policy, and behave like consumers instead of participants. --[[User:Juerd|Juerd]] ([[User talk:Juerd|talk]]) 20:49, 30 July 2022 (CEST)
** agreed, many post in social media contain lots of peoples faces. I doubt that everyone was asked for permission.
* I suspect that there were quite a lot of 'visitors' that didn't have a ticket on site walking around besides the scouts. [[User:SA007|SA007]] ([[User talk:SA007|talk]])

=== Volunteering / Angels ===

* Providing the angels with reusable water bottles was a very good idea. [[User:Alxndr|Alxndr]] ([[User talk:Alxndr|talk]])
** Agreed -- [[User:Rot13|Rot13]] ([[User talk:Rot13|talk]])
** +1 - I did use it a lot more than I expected at first, which was probably quite healthy to do -- [[User:SK|SK]] ([[User talk:SK|talk]])

==== Volunteering ====

* Put your feedback here :)

==== Angel Food ====

* My only complaint about Mecklenb[öoøu]rg(er)? is that I still don't know how to spell their name. The food is wonderful, the people are great too! --[[User:Juerd|Juerd]] ([[User talk:Juerd|talk]]) 20:51, 30 July 2022 (CEST)
** +1 Agreement from my side. The only thing i missed was more sorts of tea. i buyed one box of peppermint tea bags, and they where empty in 1h which means the people like it (more)!? -- [[User:Foorschtbar|Foorschtbar]] ([[User talk:Foorschtbar|talk]])
* The food was great, as always :) -- [[User:Pinoaffe|Pinoaffe]] ([[User talk:Pinoaffe|talk]])
* The angel food was incredible. One of the highlights of this event. -- [[User:Rot13|Rot13]] ([[User talk:Rot13|talk]])
* Angel food was mostly great, except for the dinner on day 0 and some dishes otherwise. I'd also have appreciated some sort of meat at least every other day. - [[User:Noor|Noor]] ([[User talk:Noor|talk]])
* As always very good. Only complaint lack of coffee mugs -- [[User:SK|SK]] ([[User talk:SK|talk]])
** Ha! I think i did order them, but for some reason we didn't get them. Will make a note for next time. -- [[User:Sebastius|Sebastius]] ([[User talk:Sebastius|talk]])
* The Angel food was to die for (sorry, couldn't resist), big thanks to the Mecklenb[öoøu]rg(er) crew for that. Didn't miss a meat option at all. -- [[User:Dany|Dany]] ([[User talk:Dany|talk]])
* I want a Mecklenbørger for my next birthday. It was just so relaxing to know that the kitchen was completely meat-free. [[User:Moem|Moem]] ([[User talk:Moem|talk]]) 13:52, 31 July 2022 (CEST)
* Great food just like at SHA, and nice to have no worries about things containing meat :) -- [[User:F0x|F0x]] ([[User talk:F0x|talk]])

==== Angel Kitchen ====

* Dishwashing was a lot more manageable than at previous events, thanks to the fact that there as more equipment available. -- [[User:Pinoaffe|Pinoaffe]] ([[User talk:Pinoaffe|talk]])

==== Angel desk and Angel system ====

* I'd really like it if the Engelsystem alert emails contained the actual update in the email content. I'd get spammed with email notifications and if I wanted to actually read the update, I'd have to click through and login to the Engelsystem. I just ended up leaving most of those updates unread throughout the day. - [[User:Noor|Noor]] ([[User talk:Noor|talk]])
* Would be nice if the angelsystem was more usable on mobile -- [[User:Raboof|Raboof]] ([[User talk:Raboof|talk]])
* The login sessions could have been a bit longer, I was constantly kicked out when I just wanted to look up something. -- [[User:j0chen|j0chen]] ([[User talk:j0chen|talk]])

==== Heaven ====

* I assume this was just some miscommunication etc, but the outdoor seating was removed too early, esp given covid situation. Otherwise all good. -- [[User:SK|SK]] ([[User talk:SK|talk]])
** Yeah, it happened when i wasn't looking. We should have moved some tables outside. -- [[User:Sebastius|Sebastius]] ([[User talk:Sebastius|talk]])
* The rules for core-team people (which were doing shifts outside the angel-system) for the heaven food should be made more clear. [[User:MrLinux|MrLinux]]
** That was actually really clear. Your teamlead might not have communicated it to you. Red wristband for 'full time work during event' and vouchers obtainable by teamleads for those doing work outside of the angel system. -- [[User:Sebastius|Sebastius]] ([[User talk:Sebastius|talk]])
* I dearly wish we would have had the time to decorate Heaven. Unfortunately, the loss of time during buildup (*shakes fist at the weather gods*) made that impossible. The tent itself was splendid, so spacious. [[User:Moem|Moem]] ([[User talk:Moem|talk]]) 13:54, 31 July 2022 (CEST)
** Ah well, we did a little by ourselves with the parasols, and it was fine! Next time! -- [[User:Sebastius|Sebastius]] ([[User talk:Sebastius|talk]])

=== Warehouse ===

* Warehouse did a really great job. And I requested some really strange things. They even got Powercables and a Compressor for repairing the Flamethrowers. -- [[User:Justelex|Justelex]] ([[User talk:Justelex|talk]])
** +1 Agreement from my side -- [[User:Foorschtbar|Foorschtbar]] ([[User talk:Foorschtbar|talk]])
* Warehouse should maybe stock more small stepladders, I feel they were regularly all in use. Otherwise great supplies. [[User:SA007|SA007]] ([[User talk:SA007|talk]])

=== Waste / garbage / trash ===

* Slightly sad that trash was just split into “glass” and “everything else”. It'd be nice if we could at least recycle cardboard/paper! -- [[User:Q3k|Q3k]] ([[User talk:Q3k|talk]])
** Agreed. Throwing everything into the "Other Waste" containers felt wrong. I understand this was on the waste company dropping the ball. Let's make sure this won't happen at the next event. -- [[User:Rot13|Rot13]] ([[User talk:Rot13|talk]])
** +1 Agreement from my side -- [[User:Foorschtbar|Foorschtbar]] ([[User talk:Foorschtbar|talk]])
** That was the supplier dropping the ball in almost every category. It was in the plan (i co-wrote it) -- [[User:Sebastius|Sebastius]] ([[User talk:Sebastius|talk]])
* an awful lot of mate etc bottles ended up in glass trash I think - the later-deployed bottle collection crates helped with that -- [[User:SK|SK]] ([[User talk:SK|talk]])
** Yeah that happened last time too. We did plan for drop points. Not sure why the points weren't deployed earlier by team Bar. -- [[User:Sebastius|Sebastius]] ([[User talk:Sebastius|talk]])

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== Topics ==

=== General / overall ===

* So happy about the progressive pride and Antifa flag on the tower
* Awesome event again, thanks to everyone who did their part to making it such -- [[User:SK|SK]] ([[User talk:SK|talk]])
* It was fantastic and I am already stoked for the next one! -- [[User:Mosquito|Mosquito]] ([[User talk:Mosquito|talk]])
** +1 Agreement from my side -- [[User:Foorschtbar|Foorschtbar]] ([[User talk:Foorschtbar|talk]])
* I had a great camp overall, it was way more comfortable than I'd expected and things seemed to run smoothly. Being greeted by progressive pride flag on the Orga tent and tower instantly made me feel at ease. -- [[User:Dany|Dany]] ([[User talk:Dany|talk]])
* would be a really good idea to water the ways more often, to prevent the dust. -- [[User:Justelex|Justelex]] ([[User talk:Justelex|talk]])
** I'd be afraid this would quickly turn into mud, and I prefer dust to mud -- [[User:Pinoaffe|Pinoaffe]] ([[User talk:Pinoaffe|talk]])
* It seems that there was so much time spend on nice to haves and to little on must haves resulting in quite a few people beeing totally burned out, I really wonder if its worth it organizing it again next year at this size with this much "consumers" visiting and maybe just going back to a smaller size is nicer, the big presence of sponsors also did not help with this feeling. -- [[User:Erik|Erik]] ([[User talk:Erik|talk]])
** I am not quite sure where you saw those "consumers", especially since that would be quite a high entry price for a consumer (no daytickets and all). As far as I know we didn't finish selling all tickets so it was smaller then expected even. Although I do understand that you are longing for a smaller sized event (there are definitely a couple of those out there), I dearly hope that this event will even grow, since it is quite nice to have more and new people being interested and learning more. Sponsors I am unsure about, since I do know they were a big help in financing the whole event. With the point of being to burned out, that might be a problem of scheduling and volunteering, since there were around ~400 volunteers for the whole event (officially).
* Still amazed by the amount of creativity and community, so many people sharing what they love and are good at -- [[User:Raboof|Raboof]] ([[User talk:Raboof|talk]])

=== Arrival / departure / parking / train shuttle / luggage shuttle ===

* I was surprised twice that empty places in the field were apparently claimed. It was not clear to me that people had staked out places already on the wiki. This would seem to me one of The Most Important Things To Tell People: "whatever is on the wiki wins". Or perhaps abolish that, also fine by me, but in any case be very clear about it. I could also do with an AR app or so that shows me what people claimed :-) -- [[User:Ahu|Ahu]] ([[User talk:Ahu|talk]])
** Next time we should plan some areas for 'those without village', i heard they were planned for this time but they might have gotten lost with the last minute rearranging due to the double booking. -- [[User:Sebastius|Sebastius]] ([[User talk:Sebastius|talk]])
** (moved my feedback here to [[Feedback#Villages]]) -- [[User:Raboof|Raboof]] ([[User talk:Raboof|talk]])
* Last day of the event felt kinda "lost" as people were beginning to tear things down from early on in the day well before the closing event. Was bit of a weird mood/feeling. -- [[User:Rot13|Rot13]] ([[User talk:Rot13|talk]])
** +1 Agreement from my side -- [[User:Foorschtbar|Foorschtbar]] ([[User talk:Foorschtbar|talk]])
** While it is pretty normal for many people to already pack their things on the last day, the problem was certainly exacerbated by the fact that a roundmail on day 4 told all villages that their rented tents had to be "cleaned and empty" no later than 17:30 on day 5. That really gave villages no choice but to tear everything down during daytime on day 5. [[User:PoempelFox|PoempelFox]] ([[User talk:PoempelFox|talk]])
* The parking area was way better then at Sha. A Regular people shuttle on the field with one or two 4+ seater golfcarts would be awesome for pregnant / people that can't walk long distances and so on. (Maybe also on call would be enough) -- [[User:Justelex|Justelex]] ([[User talk:Justelex|talk]])
* "Shuttle goes when it goes" without any indication how long it will take is no option for people who have to catch their train/flight. We had many questions and complaints at the infodesk. A schedule would be great. -- [[User:Sirgoofy|sirgoofy]]
* The shuttle stop changed during the event. It would be great to have a dedicated shuttle stop (with sign and timetable) during the event.
* The payment system for the shuttle was too complicated. We had many questions about buying tickets at the infodesk. People tried to buy tickets in the online shop, but had problems getting their order paid. It would be better to make it free, or allow to pay in cash in the shuttle.

=== Badge ===

* Very well-made and polished badge, really surprised me with the effort put into it and its versatility! [[User:Vurpo|Vurpo]] ([[User talk:Vurpo|talk]]) 21:07, 30 July 2022 (CEST)
** +1 Agreement from my side -- [[User:Foorschtbar|Foorschtbar]] ([[User talk:Foorschtbar|talk]])
* The badge is really nice, but the price of MCH admission is already hindering people we'd like to reach. Perhaps do consider if we really need it. -- [[User:Ahu|Ahu]] ([[User talk:Ahu|talk]])
* Awesome badge, I had a lot of fun tinkering with it during camp and always received helpful advice in the IRC channel. Please keep this project going! [[User:Alxndr|Alxndr]] ([[User talk:Alxndr|talk]])
* The badge is amazing! However, I feel bad that my badges from previous events barely got used and this one is likely to suffer the same fate. For environmental/cost reasons, I kinda wish I could have opted out. Alternately, if there were a way to hand my badge in after the event and know it would be used for educational purposes later on, I would have given it up a heartbeat. -- [[User:HerraBRE|HerraBRE]]
* Really love the badge, it inspired me to try micropython for the first time. Also I find it to be a piece of art, the PCB design is just great. On the other side, I'm also sceptical on the ecological aspects. I fear that many hackers will not use it anymore after the event or even never use it at all. Maybe it would be a good idea to offer badges as an option instead of giving everyone a piece. -- [[User:Cyb3rk41|Cyb3rk41]] ([[User talk:Cyb3rk41|talk]])

=== Bars and food court ===

* The capacity of the food-stands was quite low, which resulted in long waiting times. Not good with hungry kids. [[User:Fhp|Fhp]] ([[User talk:Fhp|talk]])
* Agree with above: low capacity for the commercial food stands. They also didn't seem to grasp the concept of 'lunch'. I expected them to be up and running around 13.00, but most of them weren't, resulting in even longer lines at the places that were open earlier. -- [[User:Dany|Dany]] ([[User talk:Dany|talk]])
* The food stands I've visited (Wok, Fries) had poor in-person advertising of everything that they were actually selling and how much it cost. -- [[User:Rot13|Rot13]] ([[User talk:Rot13|talk]])
* The Johny Cash Burger was great but mostly I fed on waffles by the awesome C3WOC <3. And of course one can rely on the Italian Hackers' Embassy for excellent pasta. By the way... is there a Spanish or French Embassy with similar services? Would put that on my checklist for the next camp. ;-) Oh and Angel Food was also great and healthy. Didn't miss meat there, eating more veg is better for the environment anyways. Thanks for the opportunity! Conclusion: Wide range, many choices, very good! -- [[User:Mosquito|Mosquito]] ([[User talk:Mosquito|talk]])
* Frietsaus is not Mayo. [[User:MrLinux|MrLinux]]
* The split layout of the bar/food area didn't really work. You couldn't see all in one go, so most people only visited one bar making a huge queue there. -- [[User:Sebastius|Sebastius]] ([[User talk:Sebastius|talk]])
* Coffee vendor people had no idea what they were doing. Literally not knowing what a Latte Machiatto is while it's on their menu. -- [[User:Sebastius|Sebastius]] ([[User talk:Sebastius|talk]])
* Next time get food vendors from several companies instead of using one single source. Yes it's more work to set up but this time the overall quality was not great (but acceptable). -- [[User:Sebastius|Sebastius]] ([[User talk:Sebastius|talk]])
* Next time also get some vendors who do varied meals (every day a different choice, like the vegan place at CCCamp2019) at competitive pricing. -- [[User:Sebastius|Sebastius]] ([[User talk:Sebastius|talk]])
* Next time allow Mecklenborger to also have a food-truck for the general public on camp. -- [[User:Sebastius|Sebastius]] ([[User talk:Sebastius|talk]])
* Overall nice. Might be good to promote villages that have good capacity for selling food as well somehow, to make it more 'integrated'? -- [[User:Raboof|Raboof]] ([[User talk:Raboof|talk]])

=== Buildup and teardown ===

* As one of the persons who collected what felt like a kilometre of Flatterband at teardown, and removed a pile of pegs it was attached to, I would like to thank those buildup angels who didn't sink the pegs below ground level. You made my job a lot easier! :) [[User:Alxndr|Alxndr]] ([[User talk:Alxndr|talk]])
** +1 Agreement from my side -- [[User:Foorschtbar|Foorschtbar]] ([[User talk:Foorschtbar|talk]])

=== COVID19 precautions ===

* Thanks for caring about ventilation. [https://grafana.mch2022.org/d/q9gZutJ7z/mch2022?orgId=1&viewPanel=30&from=1658492800367&to=1658853839068 CO2 meters] and open sides weren't in place during the opening talk, but this was fixed quickly after and I heard the security team kept an eye on the graphs. --[[User:Juerd|Juerd]] ([[User talk:Juerd|talk]]) 20:43, 30 July 2022 (CEST)
* I liked the availability of masks and self tests for those who forgot to bring their own. I've heard about a few dozen people who got infected, but there were probably more. Thanks to the rapid tests and the heroes who chose to isolate, we may have averted a disastrous superspreading event. --[[User:Juerd|Juerd]] ([[User talk:Juerd|talk]]) 22:02, 30 July 2022 (CEST)
** +1 Agreement from my side -- [[User:Foorschtbar|Foorschtbar]] ([[User talk:Foorschtbar|talk]])
** Very much appreciated the easy availability of masks and rapid tests. -- [[User:Rot13|Rot13]] ([[User talk:Rot13|talk]])
* It would have been good to switch from recommended to required mask wearing, at least indoors, once it became clear that "personal responsibility" wasn't working out (even in this community, what a disappointment). [[User:Alxndr|Alxndr]] ([[User talk:Alxndr|talk]])
** Agreeing on all points. Was also a bit disappointed. -- [[User:Rot13|Rot13]] ([[User talk:Rot13|talk]])
** Its quite hard to do that in a country where this is not a rule anymore.
* It was good to request/require mask wearing in the food queue in Heaven. It would have been even better to do it from the very beginning. [[User:Moem|Moem]] ([[User talk:Moem|talk]]) 09:20, 31 July 2022 (CEST)

=== Cohesion ===

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=== Content / talks / heralds / speakerdesk / AV / recordings ===

* In the end it worked pretty well, but perhaps do ponder having some "known good" presenter laptops/devices available. This has worked very well for other conferences. I used a 200 euro Chromebook with a throwaway google account. -- [[User:Ahu|Ahu]] ([[User talk:Ahu|talk]])
* This is a matter of taste - if you light up the speakers real well, the audience can enjoy a well lighted speaker. But the speaker then often can't see the audience. And during my talks, I love to actually see the audience. This was better in 2017 (at least in Abacus and Battery). -- [[User:Ahu|Ahu]] ([[User talk:Ahu|talk]])
* The speaker desk and the room to work is absolutely ACE. -- [[User:Ahu|Ahu]] ([[User talk:Ahu|talk]])
* Very friendly and helpful people at the speakerdesk and also Heralds and other Angels. Dry running my laptop with the monitor at the Speaker Desk before the talk made me much calmer once I knew that worked. Thank you! -- [[User:Mosquito|Mosquito]] ([[User talk:Mosquito|talk]])
* had the opposite experience: crablab forgot giving me a speaker badge and was not very hospitable "i'd prefer if you bought your mate at the bar" the single time I asked for one in order to work on my slides -- [[User:Fraxinas|Fraxinas]] ([[User talk:Fraxinas|talk]])
* Generally felt welcome as a speaker, thanks! I didn't end up using the speaker area as it felt a bit like a 'fish tank' being so exposed to the main road (but that might be a personal hang-up ;) ) -- [[User:Raboof|Raboof]] ([[User talk:Raboof|talk]])
* It would have been nice to have a more 'integrated' programme containing both the 'curated' content and the 'self-organized' sessions. It was nice that some self-organized sessions were added to https://program.mch2022.org but it'd be even nicer to have that 'direct' somehow -- [[User:Raboof|Raboof]] ([[User talk:Raboof|talk]])
* It would have been nice to have an officially-recommended app - Giggity worked great on Android, just promoting that more might have been a good start -- [[User:Raboof|Raboof]] ([[User talk:Raboof|talk]])
* It would be nice to cross-link the schedule with the livestreams/recordings better -- [[User:Raboof|Raboof]] ([[User talk:Raboof|talk]])
* Several of the workshop presenters said they would make their presentations available, but the majority is unfindable. I did understand a presentation can be added to the schedule, but it is hard to spot that this has actually been done. Maybe an independent index with such material can be made and material actively requested? -- [[User:M10|M10]] ([[User talk:M10|talk]])

=== CTF ===

* The CTF as a whole was excellent. Really interesting challenges on multiple categories and I still think this is the best CTF I have attended. Even the easy challenges had nice twists to them, no basic "'or 1=1;-- = flag" here. -- [[User:Onja|Onja]]
* Both the competitors and the organizers I chatted with were very nice and passionate. Organizers gave good hints without giving too much away on couple of the challenges when we were stuck. -- [[User:Onja|Onja]]
* There were plenty of beverages to keep us going, hard part was to remember to eat something once in a while.
* Only complaint I have is about the ctf area: the outside tent was mostly more trouble than it was worth with wind trying to blow the whole tent away and the inside got crowded pretty fast. DT lounge area was nice but I'm not 1337 h4x0r enough to sit there 4 days in a row, my back will kill me. :D -- [[User:Onja|Onja]]
* Looking forward to reading challenge writeups (I still want to hear the creators thoughts on Coinflip even though we eventually managed to solve it). Also I agree that Coinflip was one of the tougher challenges, should have been 200 pts (whine, whine). -- [[User:Onja|Onja]]
* Summary: We will definitely be back next time! -- [[User:Onja|Onja]]

=== Decoration / design ===

* Well done all around -- [[User:SK|SK]] ([[User talk:SK|talk]]) 01:07, 31 July 2022 (CEST)
* The design was so colorful and well thought out, it gave team Deco a lot to work with. Great job! [[User:Moem|Moem]] ([[User talk:Moem|talk]]) 09:22, 31 July 2022 (CEST)
** +1 Agreement from my side -- [[User:Foorschtbar|Foorschtbar]] ([[User talk:Foorschtbar|talk]])
* The deco was really cool, I especially liked the UV-reactive strings that gave the illusion of lasers and the super cute felt plants in the Silent Lounge. -- [[User:Dany|Dany]] ([[User talk:Dany|talk]])
* Both design and deco were amazing! Also great that it was available beforehand, including the 'generator', so villages etc could use it in their preparations as well -- [[User:Raboof|Raboof]] ([[User talk:Raboof|talk]])

=== Family / kids ===

* Great vibe at the zone \o/
* Maybe one or two hot water faucets would be useful (for baby care, for dishwashing, etc)
* Sponsors like to party, maybe keep that in mind when planning in the noise gradient
* As someone without kids I love that people feel welcome to bring theirs, and the atmosphere that comes with that. Accidentally ran into the "balloon folding (for adults)" workshop which was hilarious. Great fun. -- [[User:Raboof|Raboof]] ([[User talk:Raboof|talk]])

=== Finance / coins / payments ===

* Payment by card worked mostly well, other than the supermarket not accepting international cards. My main issue was that the payment system was not well enough explained before the actual event! The blog post and wiki page were pretty long and still left me confused about what the actual payment system on the field was going to end up being. Even a simple "TL;DR we will use regular international payment cards with chip/contactless" would have helped me. [[User:Vurpo|Vurpo]] ([[User talk:Vurpo|talk]]) 21:04, 30 July 2022 (CEST)
* I asked at several bars and the food court where I could get the prepaid card for the MCH payment system, but nobody knew, so I ended up using my regular payment card. [[User:Alxndr|Alxndr]] ([[User talk:Alxndr|talk]]
** The MCH payment system only was operational from day 1 (with paper QR codes) and the ability to print them on plastic cards was added later - [[User:Noor|Noor]]
** yeah communication could have been better, the main problem was that most of it was arranged by one single person (never a good idea). Next time we need to find more people who work on the financial/tickets stuff.
* I liked the idea of the cashless QR-code, especially the later upgrade to a "hard card" rather than just a stub of thermal paper. Avoids using the big payment providers and frees one of having to carry around cash. However I would've loved seeing more universal acceptance around the event (for example at the supermarket). -- [[User:Rot13|Rot13]] ([[User talk:Rot13|talk]])
** +1 Agreement from my side. I missed also the acceptance at the Merch stand -- [[User:Foorschtbar|Foorschtbar]] ([[User talk:Foorschtbar|talk]])
* As a foreigner visiting, I was VERY happy that I could use my card to tap and pay almost everywhere. Get the supermarket on board next time and you get a perfect score from me! The QR code system also worked quite well (I took payment at the bar a few times). I was impressed, well done. - [[User:HerraBRE|HerraBRE]]
* Payment with payment cards in combination with PIN code failed. (only contactless worked, until the 50 euro weekly limit was reached.) [[User:MrLinux|MrLinux]]
* The payment system is too complex and impractical for such an event. At the infodesk there were many questions and complaints on the payment system. People were confused about whether their bank card is accepted or wanted to buy QR-codes with their cards. There were many complaints about the complexity of the payment system. Normally, payment on such events is straightforward (give some money, get a drink). I guess this complicated system also restrained people from buying drinks (just a gut feeling from the number of bottles collected on the field by Team BOC). There were also many people complaining that they could not get unused money from the QR codes (because they had to leave early or came too late). -- [[User:Sirgoofy|sirgoofy]]
* The payment system encouraged people not to bring cash, with is a huge issue for villages -- [[User:Sirgoofy|sirgoofy]]
** Many villages rely on donations to cover costs, e.g., for food or parts for workshops, like the Italian Embassy, Millyways, Team Badge, c3woc (waffles), Chaos Post. Donations in cash are straightforward and understandable. Handling cashless donations is complicated (especially for people donating), expensive (i.e., fees), and requires bank accounts (which many villages don't have as they're just a bunch of people and no legal instance).
** Cashless donations would be handy, though. Many international visitors don't have cash.
** It would be great if people could donate using the QR code system (and buy QR codes cashless) -- [[User:Sirgoofy|sirgoofy]]
* The MCH Payment system was a great benefit. Also that a plastic card could be created that was clearly more robust than the QR code on thermal paper.... Unfortunately, the machine took a long time to accept a bill. In addition, it would be nice to be able to recharge cards so that you can get through the camp with a printed card without directly charging one huge amount. -- [[User:j0chen|j0chen]] ([[User talk:j0chen|talk]])
* An ATM would be great next time. My card was declined most of the time, so I reliant on my cash (and an ATM outside of camp) -- [[User:j0chen|j0chen]] ([[User talk:j0chen|talk]])
** Or a possibility to get some cash at a desk or so? Cash needed to be handled anyway for the QR codes -- [[User:Sirgoofy|sirgoofy]]

=== Harbour / Ferry ===

* Loved the ferry service not as much as a shuttle to the other side of the water way, but as a way to enjoy some quiet time and a light breeze to (mentally) recharge away from the event. -- [[User:Rot13|Rot13]] ([[User talk:Rot13|talk]])
* The Ferry Service was great, and especially the operating hours where great. -- [[User:Justelex|Justelex]] ([[User talk:Justelex|talk]]) +1

=== Information / infodesk / wiki ===

* The infodesk should've been open for longer/as long as possible. (background: I've sat on the NOC helpdesk a bunch of times after the last infodesk angles were gone and dealt with quite a few people that were originally looking for the helpdesk; also being able to respond to infodesk calls for longer). -- [[User:Rot13|Rot13]] ([[User talk:Rot13|talk]])
* Would be nice if the wiki was more usable on mobile -- [[User:Raboof|Raboof]] ([[User talk:Raboof|talk]])
* The infodesk should be open earlier, at least starting day 0. It was unfortunate that the furniture was late (w/o desk no infodesk) -- [[User:Sirgoofy|sirgoofy]]

=== Lounges ===

* Silent lounge was very well done. Nicely decorated and people behaving very considerate (i.e. really tried to be silent). No wonder that it was popular to the point where it could've used more pillows. I was worried that people would start camping inside the lounge (similar things happen at congress for example), but that didn't turn out to be true. I've seen plenty of people taking a nap away from the noise of the event, but thankfully nobody started living inside the lounge. -- [[User:Rot13|Rot13]] ([[User talk:Rot13|talk]])
* Besides the silent lounge, I wish there were more places for people, especially for those without a village, to relax in the shade near an Ethernet port and power outlet. In the harbour there was the wood table with tent roof and the bar with a couple of seats, but both away from power outlets. Otherwise, besides the couple of deckchairs, we mostly hard hard wooden benches near the food court without shade (and no power sockets). -- [[User:Rot13|Rot13]] ([[User talk:Rot13|talk]])
** +1 agreed, a few dedicated shaded outdoor spots would've been nice -- [[User:SK|SK]] ([[User talk:SK|talk]])
** +1 I was going to write the same. Seating on the western part of the food court was hardly used because there was no shadow. Everyone was cramped beneath the roof tent in front of the east bar. On previous events there were more public spaces with roofing, sofas, bean bags, power and network. Nice place with hammocks at the speaker desk but also now shadow. Roof tents would also provide shelter in case of rain (as experienced on previous camps).
** +1 I'd enjoy that as well! Perhaps with some way to announce what you're working on to encourage spontaneous conversations? Not sure how that would work though -- [[User:Raboof|Raboof]] ([[User talk:Raboof|talk]])
** +1 A few shady sitting areas for hackers without Village; with sockets and ethernet sockets would have been very pleasant especially in the sunny and warm weather. -- [[User:j0chen|j0chen]] ([[User talk:j0chen|talk]])

=== Merchandise ===

* The designs look great, I'm a fan of the asymmetry and the patterned sleeves. Not being able to go a size up or down from what you ordered online was kind of disappointing. Not a major issue for myself but I know of several people who were sad about this. The [[merch exchange]] is not a great solution, but better than nothing. --[[User:Juerd|Juerd]] ([[User talk:Juerd|talk]]) 20:54, 30 July 2022 (CEST)
** That mostly was the result of not receiving as many units as we ordered, sadly. -- [[User:Sebastius|Sebastius]] ([[User talk:Sebastius|talk]])
* Merch was great: Awesome design and high quality. Preodering saved me from having to stay in a (humongous) line in the heat. -- [[User:Rot13|Rot13]] ([[User talk:Rot13|talk]])
* I absolutely love the hexagonal patterns and diagrams, but the amount of purple/pink was enough to keep me from buying more than a hat (that, and sizes being too big for me). - [[User:Noor|Noor]] ([[User talk:Noor|talk]])
* Nice merch, despite at first not being a fan of the design. Option to preorder is great. -- [[User:SK|SK]] ([[User talk:SK|talk]])
* OK so maybe I'm a dinosaur, but if I'd known that "fitted" was inclusive for "ladies", I wouldn't have ordered a way-too-small T-shirt. Not a complaint really, but maybe that could have been explained better? Help us old farts get with the program! :-D
** 'Fitted' does not mean 'ladies', it means snug and cut to cling to the body, not baggy and loose. I know plenty of gentlemen who prefer that style. [[User:Moem|Moem]] ([[User talk:Moem|talk]])
* Love the zipper design and quality, will be one of my favourite pieces from now on :) Preorder and pickup was easy and a great option to avoid long queues at the merch booth. -- [[User:Cyb3rk41|Cyb3rk41]] ([[User talk:Cyb3rk41|talk]])
* I love how the shirts and hoodies look, but I'm worried about how well they will hold up when being washed. The rainbow looks like it will fall off just like the yellow SHA robot did. You hardly see the SHA shirts being worn anymore... but OHM and even HAR shirts, yes. [[User:Moem|Moem]] ([[User talk:Moem|talk]])
** +1 love the looks but concerned about the large areas (beam/rainbow) as well - those already seemed to have faded a bit from being folded up in a damp tent... -- [[User:Raboof|Raboof]] ([[User talk:Raboof|talk]])

=== Miscellaneous ===

* Swan family was pretty relaxed with all the people and activity, camping out in the middle of the terrain. - [[User:Noor|Noor]] ([[User talk:Noor|talk]]
* It would be nice to have some angel-staffed dishwashing station (with manual rinse and commercial dishwashers) somewhere, to help with saving water and time, and to increase general hygiene (we all know how camp dish cleanliness standards go...) -- [[User:Q3k|Q3k]] ([[User talk:Q3k|talk]])

=== Music/laser stage / silent disco / Symphony of Fire ===
* The music/laser stage was not a great fit for the event. It drained the villages and talk tents, making those less interesting. Also the whole separate 'party area' does not work for me. I would not miss it if we didn't have one next time. -- [[User:Sebastius|Sebastius]] ([[User talk:Sebastius|talk]])
* No clue why we had a music stage, but if we for some reason must have one, why not have hacker-music on it (e.g. robotic instruments, chiptunes, etc), it was mostly filled with mediocre covers of songs unrelated to the event entirely. [[User:SA007|SA007]] ([[User talk:SA007|talk]])
* Party area was WAY too spacious for the amount of people using it. -- [[User:Sebastius|Sebastius]] ([[User talk:Sebastius|talk]])
* Loved the silent disco setup though. Also really loved it being used at night to allow the byte battle thingie to take place. -- [[User:Sebastius|Sebastius]] ([[User talk:Sebastius|talk]])
* Having hacker built flame throwers which normally look awesome mounted on a commercial stage actually takes away the home-built hacker vibe of those flame throwers. -- [[User:Sebastius|Sebastius]] ([[User talk:Sebastius|talk]])
* Music stage with the flamethrowers, and Symphony of Fire were awesome. - [[User:Noor|Noor]] ([[User talk:Noor|talk]])
* Very well done. Silent disco was a neat solution to the inherent noise conflicts. What exactly is going on could have been a bit more detailed in the schedule, some people were sad they missed interesting things because they didn't realize who was playing. -- [[User:SK|SK]] ([[User talk:SK|talk]])
* For me, the music stage did not really add anything that I would miss if it dit not happen again on a next event. Symphony of Fire was indeed awesome, I wonder if they could have played on a raised podium so more people could have seen what was happening. [[User:Moem|Moem]] ([[User talk:Moem|talk]]) 09:27, 31 July 2022 (CEST)
** +1 -- [[User:Fraxinas|Fraxinas]] ([[User talk:Fraxinas|talk]])
** +1 Agreement from my side -- [[User:Foorschtbar|Foorschtbar]] ([[User talk:Foorschtbar|talk]])
** +1 Symphony of Fire was *the* main act at the stages, a raised podium or bigscreen would have been great that more people can see something. Especially the crowding is perhaps a bit critical with regard to the COVID measures. -- [[User:j0chen|j0chen]] ([[User talk:j0chen|talk]])
* Silent disco was so much fun! More, later, longer please! Seems like a great solution for us party animals who don't want calm after 2am. - [[User:HerraBRE|HerraBRE]]
* Music stage was to loud, to horrible and went on for way to long it and nowhere on the terrain you did not hear it, making sleeping almost impossible for people who actually need proper sleep (yes quiet camping was also to loud). -- [[User:Erik|Erik]] ([[User talk:Erik|talk]])
* Silent disco was a great idea. But for the next time, I'd appreciate it if it wasn't just announced in advance, but if there was also information about the technology, e.g. where/if I can get suitable headphones myself or on which frequencies it runs, so that I can build a receiver myself. As far as I have heard, it was probably possible to receive the radio on the entire camp? -- [[User:j0chen|j0chen]] ([[User talk:j0chen|talk]])

=== NOC / Network ===

* My SFP+ module got to stay in a datenklo. A++++ would camp again. -- [[User:Q3k|Q3k]] ([[User talk:Q3k|talk]])
* Datenklos were sorely missing some CYBER(tm) reflective foil wrapping -- [[User:Rot13|Rot13]] ([[User talk:Rot13|talk]])
** There was a plan for nice aluminium foil/plated cardboard skins with the field name and other decorations on it, but the weather during buildup threw a spanner into that idea... [[User:SA007|SA007]] ([[User talk:SA007|talk]])
** +1 Agreement from my side -- [[User:Foorschtbar|Foorschtbar]] ([[User talk:Foorschtbar|talk]])
* Some system for releasing cables from the datenklo switches at teardown would help. I couldn't recover my uplink cable and then later realised I left without it. Maybe give a key to a nearby village person that would release cables that have no more active link on a regular basis? -- [[User:M10|M10]] ([[User talk:M10|talk]])

=== Power ===

* Thank you very much for not cutting power off after the closing event as at SHA. -- [[User:Malaclypse|Malaclypse]] ([[User talk:Malaclypse|talk]])
** +1 Agreement from my side -- [[User:Foorschtbar|Foorschtbar]] ([[User talk:Foorschtbar|talk]])
* I was really happy to have power available until the very end on wednesday! Thanks for that! -- [[User:Cyb3rk41|Cyb3rk41]] ([[User talk:Cyb3rk41|talk]])
** Agreed. Having power for as long as possible was great. -- [[User:Rot13|Rot13]] ([[User talk:Rot13|talk]])
* The priklichtjes (festoon lights on poles) were a very welcome addition by Team:Power. [[User:Moem|Moem]] ([[User talk:Moem|talk]])
** They helped me greatly in navigating the terrain in the dark, indicating where the paths where between the villages. -- [[User:Rot13|Rot13]] ([[User talk:Rot13|talk]])
*** +1 very nice for indicating paths between tents and nature. -- [[User:j0chen|j0chen]] ([[User talk:j0chen|talk]])
* Very impressed with the PowerTeam, kudos! And we learned an important lesson (the hard way) that long PVC cables lying in wet grass will suck up moisture and trip the 'aardlek' (RCD?). This could be written a lot better in the power wiki page so people can prepare better. Now the neoprene cables are only recommended as the better quality, but not that PVC has negative effects, like taking out two villages for a few hours. -- [[User:M10|M10]] ([[User talk:M10|talk]])
:* In general, the cable should be rated for outdoor usage. PVC cables for outdoor use do exist (and are really nice to use because they're more flexible, especially when it's cold), so a simple list of materials doesn't work. (In case you're interested: harmonized cable types have the material encoded in the type, H05RR-F for example means H = harmonized, 05 = 250V, R = rubber inner insulation, R = rubber outer insulation, F = fine stranded. Neoprene is usually identified as RN, indoor PVC as VV, outdoor PVC as V3V3 (e.g. H05V3V3-F). Not sure if listing all outdoor capable material codes would work; just look for "rated for outdoor use"; the IP44 schuko plug with the ring is a good proxy/heuristic for that.)

=== Off-Site Logistics ===

* Off-site logistics was a mess, during buildup the schedule was changed drastically without communication about it, we ended up waiting 9 hours for a truck that was smaller than promised requiring a second trip. Teardown I drove the van myself. [[User:SA007|SA007]] ([[User talk:SA007|talk]])

=== On-Site Logistics ===

* Gators are too loud, you can't hear each other inside a tent if they drive by. [[User:SA007|SA007]] ([[User talk:SA007|talk]])
** IIRC electric vehicles were unavaible from the local rental companies, unfortunately [[User:Flimpie|Flimpie]] ([[User talk:Flimpie|talk]]) 22:38, 1 August 2022 (CEST)
** +1 The gators were also so loud that you could barely understand/use the radio when you were sitting in it -- [[User:j0chen|j0chen]] ([[User talk:j0chen|talk]])

=== Other music/noise (outside the official party area) ===

* Please NEVER allow Holoplot to be on the field ever again. And if that is impossible to prevent, at least NOT do a late night party with that system. The volume OUTSIDE the tent was horrifying. -- [[User:Sebastius|Sebastius]] ([[User talk:Sebastius|talk]])
* Bit torn on this one. It is a party event, but there was way too much loud music post 2 AM. Some of us do need sleep. I know, weak etc. I don't recall seeing a clear policy on what is acceptable, might be behind people feeling ok cranking up the volume after midnight. -- [[User:Ahu|Ahu]] ([[User talk:Ahu|talk]])
* The Retro Arcade area was an absolute nuisance at night. They were blasting the neighbouring villages with shitty music and drunken yelling until 2 or 3 am pretty much every day. I can think of several words for this kind of behaviour, and none of them rhyme with "excellent". [[User:Alxndr|Alxndr]] ([[User talk:Alxndr|talk]])
* It seems like while the official policy was 'no noise after 1AM', it wasn't actively enforced for most cases - and I think that enabled people to also treat it a bit more like a hint rather than a rule? Perhaps for future events we should have numerical 'loudness' scores for all fields, forming a gradient, with a higher score letting people be louder and party later, and actually enforce that. That way loud people can camp in loud villages, while those who need peace and quiet can camp in quiet villages. -- [[User:Q3k|Q3k]] ([[User talk:Q3k|talk]])
** I think this was sort-of implemented based on village input, but the usual event fields are just a bit too small for that to work reliably -- [[User:SK|SK]] ([[User talk:SK|talk]])
* This was both badly communicated (FAQ said "until midnight", apparently the actual rule was from 1 am?) and not usefully enforced. Arcade area right next to family village especially apparently could do whatever they wanted. This makes awesome ideas like silent disco for the "official" music stage sadly quite moot. -- [[User:SK|SK]] ([[User talk:SK|talk]])
* second-hand, but if security (i.e. the contact listed for noise complaints on the front page of this wiki!) really responded to calls about this with "don't call us unless there's an actual emergency" some rules seriously need to be re-established -- [[User:SK|SK]] ([[User talk:SK|talk]])
* at the same time small villages further into the "louder sector" (i.e. away from family/silent camping) were told off for having any music on low volume -- [[User:SK|SK]] ([[User talk:SK|talk]])
* Our village was placed in a party area. That was unfortunate. Next time I'll camp in a quiet are even if that means being far away from the village I am interested in. Geraffel adhered to the 1am quiet policy (yay!) but others didn't. They went on till after 4.30 and didn't honor complaints. -- [[User:Mosquito|Mosquito]] ([[User talk:Mosquito|talk]])
* I was sad there was no place to party and dance after 2am. I agree people who want quiet should be able to enjoy quiet, but in a perfect camp there would be room for both. -- [[User:HerraBRE|HerraBRE]]
* The distribution of the Villages and party zones was perhaps not quite ideal, felt the Family Zone (which had asked for quiet) was in the middle of the Party Zone (based on the noise / music) -- [[User:j0chen|j0chen]] ([[User talk:j0chen|talk]])

=== POC / Dect / Fieldphones ===
* I couldn't find advance information as to when the phone / DECT network would be shut off on the wiki, having such information would be useful (but I may just have been looking in the wrong place) -- [[User:Pinoaffe|Pinoaffe]] ([[User talk:Pinoaffe|talk]])
* DECT coverage was great around the whole camp area. -- [[User:Rot13|Rot13]] ([[User talk:Rot13|talk]])
** +1 Agreement from my side -- [[User:Foorschtbar|Foorschtbar]] ([[User talk:Foorschtbar|talk]])
* DECT self-registration worked great (have been used to it for a while now from congress). -- [[User:Rot13|Rot13]] ([[User talk:Rot13|talk]])
** +1 Agreement from my side -- [[User:Foorschtbar|Foorschtbar]] ([[User talk:Foorschtbar|talk]])
* DECT was switched off too early. DECT is mandatory for teardown, especially as the gsm coverage is quite bad -- [[User:Sirgoofy|sirgoofy]]

=== Parcel deliveries ===
* Many people that ordered things to the field were (seemingly) unaware of how parcel deliveries were supposed to work. This caused unnecessary overhead. -- [[User:Pinoaffe|Pinoaffe]] ([[User talk:Pinoaffe|talk]])
* Collaborating with C3Post may be worthwhile for a next event, though they may not want to deal with large packages. -- [[User:Pinoaffe|Pinoaffe]] ([[User talk:Pinoaffe|talk]])
** Delivering anything of real value sounds like a bad idea (on big events). Besides being way more effort than postcards, parcels (pending delivery) would require (secure-ish) storage space while not out for relivery or if the first delivery attempt failed. We'd also need extra couriers and not hand deliveries out to random passing-by hackers, which also leaks the info on the parcel (such as tracking numbers) to said random hackers. Also some postcards just got lost/didn't get delivered, which would be a real issue with parcels. -- [[User:Trilader|Trilader]] ([[User talk:Trilader|talk]])
* Parcel deliveries had a procedure outlined at [[Parcel deliveries]] to keep them manageable, but somehow people still sent packages to the terrain without following the procedure, maybe something to add to the info booklet/advertise more?

=== Press / Media coverage ===

* Put your feedback here :)

=== Productiehuis / C3VOC ===
* MOST EXCELLENT WORK!! -- [[User:Ahu|Ahu]] ([[User talk:Ahu|talk]])
* The video-quality of the (few) talks I watched online was good, and I saw some nice fade effects. [[User:Fhp|Fhp]] ([[User talk:Fhp|talk]])
* The hard cutoff of the intro tune annoys me every time. [[User:Fhp|Fhp]] ([[User talk:Fhp|talk]])
* Kudos to the C3VOC! That was awesome! Video quality was excellent and the fact that each talk appeared in the C3 media archive only a couple of hours later impressed me very much. That is better service than many (or most?) commercial providers deliver. You people are fantastic! -- [[User:Mosquito|Mosquito]] ([[User talk:Mosquito|talk]])
* Nothing short of amazing -- [[User:Raboof|Raboof]] ([[User talk:Raboof|talk]])

=== Projectleiding ===
* Thank you for your work. -- [[User:Justelex|Justelex]] ([[User talk:Justelex|talk]])
** +1 Agreement from my side -- [[User:Foorschtbar|Foorschtbar]] ([[User talk:Foorschtbar|talk]])
** ++ -- [[User:M10|M10]] ([[User talk:M10|talk]])
* <3 -- [[User:Raboof|Raboof]] ([[User talk:Raboof|talk]])

=== ROC ===

* Wheeze and his team did a excellent job!
* Good work by the warehouse team for doing the battery swaps, saved a lot of time! [[User:MrLinux|MrLinux]]
* Nice we had the HAM radio repeater! [[User:MrLinux|MrLinux]]
* The ROC team lacked a bit on publicity, improvement for 2025! [[User:MrLinux|MrLinux]]
* A QSL-wall could be an idea for 2025! [[User:MrLinux|MrLinux]]
* We missed the VERON at the event [[User:MrLinux|MrLinux]]
* Excellent Job. A Laminated card with "Radio rules" and the Channel distribution would be a nice thing to be handed out next time. -- [[User:Justelex|Justelex]] ([[User talk:Justelex|talk]])
** Would definitely be good, just like enforcing the language on the radio, e.g. in a channel that was supposed to be explicitly in English, Dutch was often spoken anyway -- [[User:j0chen|j0chen]] ([[User talk:j0chen|talk]])
* Next time after the DECT comes up, require as many radios as you can to be returned, forcing teams to use dect. Way better audio, point to point connections and people actually being reachable. -- [[User:Sebastius|Sebastius]] ([[User talk:Sebastius|talk]])
* The audio quality sucked. Problem with the chosen technology, i know. Most conversations were completely unintelligible. -- [[User:Sebastius|Sebastius]] ([[User talk:Sebastius|talk]])
* Teach people how to use the radio properly. I still don't know which name goes first etc. -- [[User:Sebastius|Sebastius]] ([[User talk:Sebastius|talk]])
* Reconsider channel system. It happened too often that people were calling/listening on the wrong channel. [[User:Flimpie|Flimpie]] ([[User talk:Flimpie|talk]]) 22:38, 1 August 2022 (CEST)
* Educate people on radio etiquette and how to properly talk into a radio. Yelling/speaking too quietly/having too much BG noise, combined with DMR compression creates inaudible speech [[User:Flimpie|Flimpie]] ([[User talk:Flimpie|talk]]) 22:38, 1 August 2022 (CEST)
* Ensuring that the correct language is spoken. I heard a lot of Dutch during some security angelshifts, even though the channel was supposed to be in English. -- [[User:j0chen|j0chen]] ([[User talk:j0chen|talk]])

=== Safety / stewards / first aid / Fire Marshalls ===

* Phone numbers or other contact information was hard to find at the beginning of the event, added to the wiki later. --[[User:Juerd|Juerd]] ([[User talk:Juerd|talk]]) 20:47, 30 July 2022 (CEST)
* There were no backup mobile phone numbers (at least none published) for reaching the safety teams in case of infrastructure outage, and they were unreachable when the network was down. --[[User:Juerd|Juerd]] ([[User talk:Juerd|talk]]) 20:47, 30 July 2022 (CEST)
* Security: Bike path was open to all, so technically anyone could get on the terrain without a ticket. Which meant at least a few unwelcome visitors. - [[User:Noor|Noor]] ([[User talk:Noor|talk]])
* I was surprised that the fire extinguishers were the first things being collected from our village (Geraffel) during teardown. At this time we still had a lot of people staying and as murphy wills, the fat bowl of our our barbecue catched fire afterwards. Fortunately nothing bad happened but my expectation would be to have extinguishers available until rented tents are torn down / all visitors are gone. At lease in large villages like ours. -- [[User:Cyb3rk41|Cyb3rk41]] ([[User talk:Cyb3rk41|talk]])

=== Shuttle services (train station, and luggage on site) ===

* Shuttle drop-off point on field should have been marked somewhere on the maps or wiki, during build-up. I spent forever asking around trying to find the drop-off point, only to find it at heaven. - [[User:Noor|Noor]] ([[User talk:Noor|talk]])
* Shuttle was efficient and worked well when I used it -- [[User:SK|SK]] ([[User talk:SK|talk]])
* Shuttle ticket was a bit last-minute and unclear (i.e. afaik never produced an actual "ticket", which lead to questions - and in the end was more like a donation than a strictly-required ticket) -- [[User:SK|SK]] ([[User talk:SK|talk]])

=== Supermarket ===

* The supermarket was a really valuable addition to the event, and probably saved lots of fuel and time for people. I found the prices acceptable, and the choice of products was surprisingly broad! --[[User:Juerd|Juerd]] ([[User talk:Juerd|talk]]) 20:47, 30 July 2022 (CEST)
** +1 Agreement from my side -- [[User:Foorschtbar|Foorschtbar]] ([[User talk:Foorschtbar|talk]])
* Supermarket was a great thing and I hope we'll have it at the next event. -- [[User:Rot13|Rot13]] ([[User talk:Rot13|talk]])
* Supermarket was wonderful, it felt like being back in civilization again and I could just zip inside to get a drink or breakfast for the next morning. - [[User:Noor|Noor]] ([[User talk:Noor|talk]])
* was very useful to have and surprisingly well-stocked (i.e. not just packaged junk food). Next time they'll know to bring less soft-drinks and more Ethernet/USB/... cables ;) -- [[User:SK|SK]] ([[User talk:SK|talk]])
* Guests from abroad struggled to make use of the supermarket, since it didn't accept foreign cards and there was no ATM on site. -- [[User:HerraBRE|HerraBRE]]
* The supermarket was a really good idea, however my card was not accepted so I was very dependent on cash - Very limited without an ATM on camp. -- [[User:j0chen|j0chen]] ([[User talk:j0chen|talk]])

=== Sysadmin / bofh ===

* Having had to deal with the crumbling of central infrastructure in other events, I really appreciated the stability of the wiki and Engelsystem before and throughout the event. -- [[User:Rot13|Rot13]] ([[User talk:Rot13|talk]])
* Engelsystem and wiki could've used longer login sessions. Every time I tried to quickly check my angel shifts I had to login again. -- [[User:Rot13|Rot13]] ([[User talk:Rot13|talk]])

=== Terrain ===

* The western way to quiet camping was not accessible: so narrow that you can only go one way at a time and a huge log being in the way.
** I actually opened it up significantly with a trolley, it had 1,5m high weeds on it and was almost overgrown. [[User:SA007|SA007]] ([[User talk:SA007|talk]])
* The quiet camping area (Wilson field) turned out to be quite crammed and could be bigger for the next event. I assume this was caused by the scouts taking some of that area due to the unfortunate double booking. -- [[User:Rot13|Rot13]] ([[User talk:Rot13|talk]])
* The quiet camping really missed a shower container, nearest was the family village, a 15 mins walk. (with sha2017 there was one) [[User:MrLinux|MrLinux]]
* Not something really on us, I knew that the public bike path was to remain open. Most bikers were considerable in slowing down when crossing the Backbone at least, but some seemed to really adamant to enforce the negative stereotypes of people on road bikes. Create some speed bumps with cable ramps next time maybe? -- [[User:Dany|Dany]] ([[User talk:Dany|talk]])
* It would have been good to (more strongly) encourage people with small children to camp in Family Zone and not Quiet Camping (Wilson field). It's unreasonable to expect small children to be quiet all the time, and yet this is what is expected on Wilson. Maybe we can make that clearer. [[User:Moem|Moem]] ([[User talk:Moem|talk]]) 13:49, 31 July 2022 (CEST)
* really loved having the orga tents on the south trunk. For next time, maybe only have those teams on there that actually interact with visitors. -- [[User:Sebastius|Sebastius]] ([[User talk:Sebastius|talk]])
* Next time maybe also place some villages on the south trunk road, the south trunk looked a bit 'dead' now with only orga tents. -- [[User:Sebastius|Sebastius]] ([[User talk:Sebastius|talk]])
* The Zuse 'aux' path over the dike was weird and not signed properly, I walked it at night and actually looked at the map on my phone where the spot should be to get down off the dike. The path seemed to be 'walk up the dike', 'don't see any hint on where the path should be going...', 'look it up', 'walk ~150m to the left without any clue if it is the correct way' 'suddenly find a path down again'. [[User:SA007|SA007]] ([[User talk:SA007|talk]])
* For me, it was the first hacker camp and i like the terrain with the ways, water, lakes, woods etc. much more than other camps, where all tens be a on a very large field -- [[User:Foorschtbar|Foorschtbar]] ([[User talk:Foorschtbar|talk]])
** It was the same for me and I'm also a big fan of the terrain. -- [[User:Rot13|Rot13]] ([[User talk:Rot13|talk]])
* The online map was great - would be nice to 'level it up' for next time: searching on the map, better interlinking with the wiki, export to OsmAnd in a way that allows searching as well, mobile usability, etc -- [[User:Raboof|Raboof]] ([[User talk:Raboof|talk]])
* Having the online map was great, but I wish to have something more optimized for mobile devices for the next event. Performance was poor (in mobile Firefox at least) and I totally missed the options menu for showing villages. -- [[User:Rot13|Rot13]] ([[User talk:Rot13|talk]])

=== Ticket and Entrance ===

* Just works! Thank u -- [[User:Foorschtbar|Foorschtbar]] ([[User talk:Foorschtbar|talk]])

=== Toilets / Showers ===

* The maintenance crew for the toilets/showers did a great job, IMHO, those facilities where usually in very good shape. [[User:Alxndr|Alxndr]] ([[User talk:Alxndr|talk]])
** +1 Agreement from my side -- [[User:Foorschtbar|Foorschtbar]] ([[User talk:Foorschtbar|talk]])
** +1 All facilities were great, better than anything I'm used to -- [[User:j0chen|j0chen]] ([[User talk:j0chen|talk]])
* Easily the best showers of any hacker camp I've been to. -- [[User:Q3k|Q3k]] ([[User talk:Q3k|talk]])
* There should have been showers closer to the quiet camping area. -- [[User:Rot13|Rot13]] ([[User talk:Rot13|talk]])
* This has been my first hacker camp and I don't know the "hacker camp standards" on showers but I know a lot of music festivals. Compared to this, I must say the showering experience was simply great! I always had warm water and never had to queue and this is something I NEVER experienced on any festival yet - I'm used to waiting and then having cold water only. -- [[User:Cyb3rk41|Cyb3rk41]] ([[User talk:Cyb3rk41|talk]])
* Having urinals in all places where normal toilets were available would greatly have contributed to the cleanliness of the toilets, I suppose. -- [[User:Cyb3rk41|Cyb3rk41]] ([[User talk:Cyb3rk41|talk]])
** +1 Agreement from my side -- [[User:Foorschtbar|Foorschtbar]] ([[User talk:Foorschtbar|talk]])
* The showers and toilets were GREAT. Well done everyone involved! Random suggestion: it was warm enough that I would actually have welcomed a (cheaper and more eco-friendly?) cold shower option. -- [[User:HerraBRE|HerraBRE]]

=== Villages ===

* It is useful that villages are distributed over the field beforehand, but I think it would be reasonable to expect villages to 'lay their claim' physically on day 0 at the latest, and from day 1 onwards have any remaining empty space welcome unaffiliated hackers. Forcing unaffiliated hackers onto designated "free for all" areas seems like an antipattern to me. It might be better to have 'dots' on the map rather than 'areas' for distributing the villages, to promote more flexibility? Perhaps we can make pretty 'poles' to put into the ground saying "Village X will be around here, and is a small/medium/big village" for orientation? -- [[User:Raboof|Raboof]] ([[User talk:Raboof|talk]])

=== Village tent/furniture rental (Moebelhaus) ===

* Our tent ended up being rotated by pi/2 compared to the map. This ended up totally throwing off what we were planning. We managed regardless, but it'd be great if in the future these maps would actually reflect reality :). -- [[User:Q3k|Q3k]] ([[User talk:Q3k|talk]])
* Our tent was leaking, especially on the connector between modules. -- [[User:Q3k|Q3k]] ([[User talk:Q3k|talk]])
* Don't see a spot for team tents. The Deco tent had a steel bar all around the bottom, making it really annoying with carts and a trip hazard. [[User:SA007|SA007]] ([[User talk:SA007|talk]])
* Great service, very useful, good stuff. It would be nice to have some way to see which furniture was still 'in flight' and which had already been delivered, to catch missing/misdelivered furniture earlier -- [[User:Raboof|Raboof]] ([[User talk:Raboof|talk]])

=== Visitors ===

* Most visitors were excellent, as always. But in the next few years when thinking of the next event, we should probably talk about people who I guess must be new to this community, that are incredibly lax with the photo/filming policy, and behave like consumers instead of participants. --[[User:Juerd|Juerd]] ([[User talk:Juerd|talk]]) 20:49, 30 July 2022 (CEST)
** agreed, many post in social media contain lots of peoples faces. I doubt that everyone was asked for permission.
* I suspect that there were quite a lot of 'visitors' that didn't have a ticket on site walking around besides the scouts. [[User:SA007|SA007]] ([[User talk:SA007|talk]])

=== Volunteering / Angels ===

* Providing the angels with reusable water bottles was a very good idea. [[User:Alxndr|Alxndr]] ([[User talk:Alxndr|talk]])
** Agreed -- [[User:Rot13|Rot13]] ([[User talk:Rot13|talk]])
** +1 - I did use it a lot more than I expected at first, which was probably quite healthy to do -- [[User:SK|SK]] ([[User talk:SK|talk]])

==== Volunteering ====

* Put your feedback here :)

==== Angel Food ====

* My only complaint about Mecklenb[öoøu]rg(er)? is that I still don't know how to spell their name. The food is wonderful, the people are great too! --[[User:Juerd|Juerd]] ([[User talk:Juerd|talk]]) 20:51, 30 July 2022 (CEST)
** +1 Agreement from my side. The only thing i missed was more sorts of tea. i buyed one box of peppermint tea bags, and they where empty in 1h which means the people like it (more)!? -- [[User:Foorschtbar|Foorschtbar]] ([[User talk:Foorschtbar|talk]])
* The food was great, as always :) -- [[User:Pinoaffe|Pinoaffe]] ([[User talk:Pinoaffe|talk]])
* The angel food was incredible. One of the highlights of this event. -- [[User:Rot13|Rot13]] ([[User talk:Rot13|talk]])
* Angel food was mostly great, except for the dinner on day 0 and some dishes otherwise. I'd also have appreciated some sort of meat at least every other day. - [[User:Noor|Noor]] ([[User talk:Noor|talk]])
* As always very good. Only complaint lack of coffee mugs -- [[User:SK|SK]] ([[User talk:SK|talk]])
** Ha! I think i did order them, but for some reason we didn't get them. Will make a note for next time. -- [[User:Sebastius|Sebastius]] ([[User talk:Sebastius|talk]])
* The Angel food was to die for (sorry, couldn't resist), big thanks to the Mecklenb[öoøu]rg(er) crew for that. Didn't miss a meat option at all. -- [[User:Dany|Dany]] ([[User talk:Dany|talk]])
* I want a Mecklenbørger for my next birthday. It was just so relaxing to know that the kitchen was completely meat-free. [[User:Moem|Moem]] ([[User talk:Moem|talk]]) 13:52, 31 July 2022 (CEST)
* Great food just like at SHA, and nice to have no worries about things containing meat :) -- [[User:F0x|F0x]] ([[User talk:F0x|talk]])

==== Angel Kitchen ====

* Dishwashing was a lot more manageable than at previous events, thanks to the fact that there as more equipment available. -- [[User:Pinoaffe|Pinoaffe]] ([[User talk:Pinoaffe|talk]])

==== Angel desk and Angel system ====

* I'd really like it if the Engelsystem alert emails contained the actual update in the email content. I'd get spammed with email notifications and if I wanted to actually read the update, I'd have to click through and login to the Engelsystem. I just ended up leaving most of those updates unread throughout the day. - [[User:Noor|Noor]] ([[User talk:Noor|talk]])
* Would be nice if the angelsystem was more usable on mobile -- [[User:Raboof|Raboof]] ([[User talk:Raboof|talk]])
* The login sessions could have been a bit longer, I was constantly kicked out when I just wanted to look up something. -- [[User:j0chen|j0chen]] ([[User talk:j0chen|talk]])

==== Heaven ====

* I assume this was just some miscommunication etc, but the outdoor seating was removed too early, esp given covid situation. Otherwise all good. -- [[User:SK|SK]] ([[User talk:SK|talk]])
** Yeah, it happened when i wasn't looking. We should have moved some tables outside. -- [[User:Sebastius|Sebastius]] ([[User talk:Sebastius|talk]])
* The rules for core-team people (which were doing shifts outside the angel-system) for the heaven food should be made more clear. [[User:MrLinux|MrLinux]]
** That was actually really clear. Your teamlead might not have communicated it to you. Red wristband for 'full time work during event' and vouchers obtainable by teamleads for those doing work outside of the angel system. -- [[User:Sebastius|Sebastius]] ([[User talk:Sebastius|talk]])
* I dearly wish we would have had the time to decorate Heaven. Unfortunately, the loss of time during buildup (*shakes fist at the weather gods*) made that impossible. The tent itself was splendid, so spacious. [[User:Moem|Moem]] ([[User talk:Moem|talk]]) 13:54, 31 July 2022 (CEST)
** Ah well, we did a little by ourselves with the parasols, and it was fine! Next time! -- [[User:Sebastius|Sebastius]] ([[User talk:Sebastius|talk]])

=== Warehouse ===

* Warehouse did a really great job. And I requested some really strange things. They even got Powercables and a Compressor for repairing the Flamethrowers. -- [[User:Justelex|Justelex]] ([[User talk:Justelex|talk]])
** +1 Agreement from my side -- [[User:Foorschtbar|Foorschtbar]] ([[User talk:Foorschtbar|talk]])
* Warehouse should maybe stock more small stepladders, I feel they were regularly all in use. Otherwise great supplies. [[User:SA007|SA007]] ([[User talk:SA007|talk]])

=== Waste / garbage / trash ===

* Slightly sad that trash was just split into “glass” and “everything else”. It'd be nice if we could at least recycle cardboard/paper! -- [[User:Q3k|Q3k]] ([[User talk:Q3k|talk]])
** Agreed. Throwing everything into the "Other Waste" containers felt wrong. I understand this was on the waste company dropping the ball. Let's make sure this won't happen at the next event. -- [[User:Rot13|Rot13]] ([[User talk:Rot13|talk]])
** +1 Agreement from my side -- [[User:Foorschtbar|Foorschtbar]] ([[User talk:Foorschtbar|talk]])
** That was the supplier dropping the ball in almost every category. It was in the plan (i co-wrote it) -- [[User:Sebastius|Sebastius]] ([[User talk:Sebastius|talk]])
* an awful lot of mate etc bottles ended up in glass trash I think - the later-deployed bottle collection crates helped with that -- [[User:SK|SK]] ([[User talk:SK|talk]])
** Yeah that happened last time too. We did plan for drop points. Not sure why the points weren't deployed earlier by team Bar. -- [[User:Sebastius|Sebastius]] ([[User talk:Sebastius|talk]])

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= Shipping things to MCH2022 =

It is possible to ship parcels to MCH2022. However, it's a lot of work for us and many things can go wrong. Therefore, we'd prefer it if you can find alternatives to shipping things to the site. This way we can avoid a lot of disappointment and effort.

= Alternatives: =

* Please try hard to find someone with a car who is going to the site. If you don't know anyone, ask on the [[IRC]] channel (#mch2022 on OFTC).

* Check whether your local hackerspace is organizing bulk transport to the site (many are) and whether you can ship/bring things to said space ahead of the event as well and have it join said transport.

= What can go wrong =

* We have no way of tracking packages beyond this (publicly editable) wiki page. Packages can get lost, misdelivered, or damaged and we are not able to do anything about it.
* The event is at a site that does not usually receive large volumes of mail and is not familiar to courier services. This means delivery services may attempt to deliver to the wrong place, and packages would be very difficult to trace.
* We are not set up for significant logistics and package handling on site. We are all volunteers that have a lot of other tasks to do and package handling is something we do when we can and if we can, but our priority is making a cool hacker camp happen, not running a post office.

If you have no other options, we do offer a best-effort service, but there are no guarantees. Specifically:

= DISCLAIMER =

* MCH2022 and Stichting IFCAT Foundation accept no liability for your package.
* Although we will sign for receipt, we are not able to take responsibility of your package. If it happens to be damaged, stolen in transit, has the wrong contents, or it gets delivered to the wrong place, there is nothing we'll be able to do to help you.
* If for any reason your package seems dangerous in any way, we might reject or dispose of it before informing you — and still disclaim any liability.

If your package gets lost, there is nothing we can do about it. Please only use this option as a last resort.

= Howto =

To ship a package to MCH2022, follow the following steps

1. Make sure it's a package, not a letter/envelope. We have limited infrastructure for handling packages but no infrastructure at all for handling envelopes. Sorry!

2. If your package is above 23 kg it **must** be on a pallet. Make sure it is either below that limit, or packaged on a pallet. If a package is on a pallet, make sure it's weatherproof as it may get rained on during transport and storage.

3. Make sure the package does not consist of food or perishable items (see below)

4. Check that the package is able to arrive between **Monday, July 18th** and **Tuesday, July 26th**. We are not able to receive packages at all outside this time window. If a package arrives outside that time window, it will most likely not reach us, and therefore also not reach you.

5. Make sure the package is addressed correctly. Please use the following address format if possible, or at least include all the following information:

To: YOUR NAME @ YOUR VILLAGE
MCH2022 Team Logistics p/a Scoutinglandgoed

Nulderpad 5
3896 LV Zeewolde
The Netherlands

Note that "LV" is part of the postal code "3896 LV".

'''If the shipping company requires a phone number, put **your own** phone number on the shipping label. That way you can react if the shipping company gets confused about where to deliver. Please do not use our phone numbers, as we can't guarantee reachability at the time the package is due to be delivered.'''

6. Add your package to the list at the end of this page. The list is sorted by projected arrival day. Please keep it this way. We will update this page once we receive the package.

7. Pick it up at the logistics warehouse. The warehouse is the building next to the info-tent (just south of the tent). [https://map.mch2022.org/#map=20/5.5256/52.2844/0 Official map].

= Perishable or food items =
Perishable or food items include BBQ meat, pizza, drinks, and perishable foods. We cannot handle deliveries of such items on site at all.

We have contractual obligations to our food vendors on site that prevent us from delivering food or accepting food deliveries. We also don't have the capacity for cold storage, rapid delivery, or food-safe logistics. Please understand that we can't offer this kind of service and don't ask us about it. Sorry!

If you want to have food delivered to you on site, you're on your own. You will have to wait for it at the gate until it arrives and intercept them yourself. Delivery trucks are not allowed on the terrain. Be aware that many food suppliers have quite strict policies on deliveries, and will not deliver to a site like ours anyway. If you need large quantities of food, a better choice might be to do a shopping run yourself in a nearby supermarket. A list of supermarkets and their opening hours are on the [[Supermarkets|Supermarkets wiki page]].

= Delivery policy =

== No envelopes! ==

Note: we '''can't''' receive envelopes, so make sure small stuff is in a box even if it would fit in an envelope.

== Not on the wiki ==
If your package is delivered but it's not on the wiki, please bring a reconciliation gift when picking it up. Traditionally this is apple pie but we're open for surprises :)

== Small parcels ==

Small parcels (boxes) will be routed to our storage; once it has arrived, infodesk can tell you where to pick it up. The limit for small boxes is 23 kg. We will try to update this page when the shipment arrives.

== Big parcels ==

Any parcel above 23 kg counts as big.

Big parcels **MUST BE ON A PALLET**. They will be delivered to the village directly if the village has a known location (a tent) that is reachable by one of the roads. If not, we'll leave it at a place we can access by road -- possibly in a restricted area from which you cannot pick it up without our help. Packages might get rained on in transit or in storage, so please make sure they are weatherproof.

'''Please do not have anything shipped to the site (by any means) that you are not able to transport back away from the site.'''

= Expected/delivered packages - ADD TO THIS LIST!! =

Please sort by date.

{|class=wikitable
! Expected arrival date !! Recipient name !! Village !! How big and heavy is it?<br>''metric please!'' !! Description of contents !! Received? (to be edited by Team:Warehouse)
|- style="background: #faa;"
| Before Monday Jul 18
|colspan=5| Absolutely do not have anything delivered before Monday 18th of July.<br>We don't have the people or equipment to deal with it.
|-
| 2022-07-18 || Example || Example || small example package (0.5kg) || example contents
|-
| 2022-07-18 || Tapio Haapala [[User:Burner|Burner]]@OFTC || [[Village:PRKL|PRKL]] || 80x120x220cm EURpal ~500kg || Finnish village stuff || delivered on-site
|-
| 2022-07-18 || [[User:1183519e|_luc]] @ NOC || [[Team:NOC|NOC]] || Medium Amazon package || electronics || -
|-
| 2022-07-18 || Q Misell || [[Team:NOC|NOC]] || Small parcel <2kg || Engelbert Strauss shorts || -
|-
| 2022-07-18 || Bix || [[Team:Productiehuis|Productiehuis]] (contact Productiehuis/VOC via radio on channel 7, not me personally) || medium sized box, but heavy (23kg) (Thomann via UPS) || Gaffer tape || -
|-
| 2022-07-19 || Sebastius / Bas Oort || Heaven || 10x10x150cm, lightweight <5kg || 2x Banner for heaven || delivered, picked up
|-
| 2022-07-19 || [[User:ripper|ripper]] || Leiwandville || below 25x25x20cm, 10kg (guesstimate) || Stuff for repairing tent tarps || -
|-
| 2022-07-19 || Stef Louwers [[User:Fhp]] || [[Team:Family]] || Probably a big box, not very heavy || [[Team:Family/InflatableFunLand|Inflatables]] and frisbees from internet-toys.nl / tom.shop || Picked up
|-
| 2022-07-19 || Stef Louwers [[User:Fhp]] || [[Team:Family]] || Two boxes || [[Team:Family/InflatableFunLand|Inflatables]] from summertoys.nl via HDL || Picked up!
|-
| 2022-07-19 || Florian Overkamp [[User:Sim]] || [[Team:Family]] || Small box, lightweight <5kg || Test tubes from Reageerbuiswinkel.nl - Jaff Jaff || Picked up!
|-
| 2022-07-19 || [[User:Razamus]] || [[Village:Labitat|Labitat]] || 2 parcels. One is smaller. The other is 30 x 40 x 40 cm. A total weight of 9kg (guesstimate) || Food and kitchen stuff || Picked up :)
|-
| 2022-07-19 || [[User:boreq]] || [[Village:milliways|milliways]] || 3kg || extension cord and a waterproof plastic box for power distribution stuff, ''"Unfortunately, DHL_CONNECT ran into an issue when attempting your delivery. They will try again. Delivery failed with reason 'business closed'."'' || picked up
|-
| 2022-07-20 || Rowan van der Kaaden [[User:Rowan8k]] || [[Village:tilde.industries and friends]] || 26 x 26 x 21cm, 2,3kg || Patches || Delivered elsewhere, won't arrive here
|-
| 2022-07-20 || Christel Boekenwuurm [[User:Boekenwuurm]] || entrance || 1-4 drukwerkdeal doos || booklets || -
|-
| 2022-07-20 || Stef Louwers [[User:Fhp]] || [[Team:Family]] || 3 drukwerkdeal packages, 50cm long, not heavy || banners || -
|-
| 2022-07-20 || [[User:Razamus]] || [[Village:Labitat|Labitat]] || 10 x 20 x 20 cm, < 1 kg (guesstimate) || Kruidnoten || Picked up :)
|-
| 2022-07-20 || [[User:Razamus]] || [[Village:Labitat|Labitat]] || 20 x 30 x 4 cm, < 1 kg (guesstimate) || Flag || Picked up :)
|-
| 2022-07-20 || [[User:Crablab]] || [[Team:Content]] || 20 x 30 x 4 cm, < 100g (guesstimate) || RS Components, GLS Aflevercode: G166 || probably picked up
|-
| 2022-07-21 || Stef Louwers [[User:Fhp]] || [[Team:Family]] || 5 packages, ~15kg each || bamboosticks || picked up
|-
| 2022-07-21 || Stef Louwers [[User:Fhp]] || [[Team:Family]] || 23 x 21 x 31cm, ~4kg || button machine || picked up
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| 2022-07-21 || mc.fly || [[Village:milliways|milliways]] || small heavy package (10.0kg) || fancy metal disks. || -
|-
| 2022-07-21 || Thijs Bosschert [[User:Thice]] || CTF Tent [[Village:CTF]] (We will be onsite ourselves) || 2,5m3 / 100KG (Estimate) || 15 Bean bags (DHL delivery) || Arrived & picked up
|-
| 2022-07-21 || Thijs Bosschert [[User:Thice]] || CTF Tent [[Village:CTF]] <br> (18:00 - 22:00, We will pick it up from the delivery point ourselves) || 22 trays of drinks || drinks (Dynalogic delivery) || Arrived & picked up
|-
| 2022-07-21 || Koen van den Heuvel [[User:Waxdt]] || [[Village:Love_Live_Laugh!_Arcade_Hacking_Festival_~after_camp_ACTIVITY~_Wai-Wai!_Tent_Meeting!!]] or Arcade sponsor tent staff || 144 x 100 x 22cm 6kg || 2 mattresses from Decathlon || arrived, at logistics entrance
|-
| 2022-07-21 || [[User:Martin]] || [[Team:Ticket_and_Entrance]] / [[Village:POC]] || Small || Clothing (C&A) || -
|-
| 2022-07-21 || Michael Weimann [[User:Weeman]] || Village:FraMa || Small || Matrix Stickers || Picked up
|-
| 2022-07-20 || [[User:Martin]] || [[Team:Ticket_and_Entrance]] / [[Village:POC]] || Giant || Euroboxes, Lids, Electronics (Hornbach, 3 Parcels via PostNL) || -
|-
| 2022-07-23 || [[User:Algoldor]] || [[Village:FoodHackingBase]] || Small, 5kg || Bottle stickers || -
|-
| 2022-07-20 || [[User:Teddy]] || deFEEST || 30x40x5 || flags [[User:Anus]] is on field ||
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| 2022-07-21 || [[User:Kintaro]] || Sensor.Community || Giant || Sensors || Arrived, please pick up at LHQ
|-
| 2022-07-21 || [[User:Kintaro]] || Team:Deco || Small || Kabelshop.nl 3x 1mm² kabel 25meter || arrived
|-
| 2022-07-21 || [[User:RatN]] || Silent Village || Small || Voss Spezialrad GmbH; bike spare parts || picked up
|-
| 2022-07-22 || [[User:Brenno]] || [[Village:OpenKAT]] || Small (<1 kg) || unknown || Received, wasn't on the wiki when received ||
|-
| 2022-07-22 || [[User:Arki]] || [[Village:ItalianEmbassy]] || Small (<1 kg) || unknown || Received, wasn't on the wiki when received ||
|-
| 2022-07-23 || [[User:Razamus]] || [[Village:Labitat|Labitat]] || Small (<1 kg) || Tape, scalpel ||
|-
| 2022-07-23 || [[User:Razamus]] || [[Village:Labitat|Labitat]] || Small (<1 kg) || ESPs, book ||
|-
| 2022-07-23 || [[User:Razamus]] || [[Village:Labitat|Labitat]] || Small (<1 kg) || Voltage regulators ||
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| 2022-07-23 || [[User:Razamus]] || [[Village:Labitat|Labitat]] || Small (<1 kg) || Facemasks ||
|-
| 2022-07-23 || [[User:Pwuts]] (DECT 7987 - PWTS) || [[Team:Badge]] || Small (~ 4 kg) || Soldering tools & materials || picked up
|-
| 2022-07-23 || Yxxx Cxxxx @ Wilson || Wilson Field || Small (~ 1 kg) || extension cord from amazon.nl || Picked up
|-
| 2022-07-23 || Yxxx Cxxxx @ Wilson || Wilson Field || Small (< 1 kg) || Voordeeldrogisterij ?? || picked up
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| 2022-07-23 || Marijn Pool @ HSNL || [[Village:HSNL]] || Small (< 1 kg) || Vlag-Bedrukken.nl || Received, wasn't on the wiki when received
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| 2022-07-24 || Yxxx Cxxxx @ Wilson || Wilson Field || Small (< 1 kg) || universal power adapter from amazon.nl || delivered and picked up
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| 2022-07-24 || [[User:JuliJane]] || [[Village:geraffel]] || Small (<1 kg) || Gas tank cap for car from amazon.nl || delivered and picked up
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| 2022-07-24 || [[User:Cent]] (Vinxxxxx Pxxx) || [[Village:Afra]] || Medium (~5kg) || 50m Etherent cable from amazon.de || delivered and picked up

|-|- style="background: #faa"
| After Tuesday July 26th
|colspan=5| You can't have anything delivered to MCH after the event!
|-
|}

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* This wiki has all relevant information for visitors of MCH2022.
* When: 22nd to 26th July 2022
* Where: [[Location|Scoutinglandgoed in Zeewolde, 55km east of Amsterdam]]

The camp is organized [https://angel.mch2022.org/ for and by volunteers] from and around all facets of the international hacker community. Knowledge sharing, technological advancement, experimentation, connecting with your hacker peers, and of course hacking are some of the core values of this event. During the camp there are [https://program.mch2022.org/ hundreds of talks] and activities to participate in.
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| Noise complaints,<br>general security issues || [[Team:Security]] || 2222 || +31 85 234 2222 || cpmch22@gmail.com
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* [[Projects]] – do your project at the camp
* [https://mch2022.org/design Design] – create MCH designs for your village/project
* [https://gitlab.com/maycontainhackers GitLab] – edit ALL the things
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* [https://maps.mch2022.org/ Map] - The entire field, on your screen. Magic.
* [https://program.mch2022.org/ Program] - schedule of the conference program
* [[Facilities]] – list of facilities at the camp
* [[Tickets]] – everything about tickets
* [[FAQ]] – many questions answered
* [[Harbour]] – come to MCH by boat
* [[Code of Conduct]]

=== Visitor initiatives ===
* [[Carpooling]]
* [[Ticket_Exchange|Ticket Exchange]]
* [[POIDH|Pics or It Didn't Happen]]
* [[Certificate|Certificate of Attendance]]™
}}

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{{shabox|title=Camping|content=
* [[Location]] – how to get there
* [[Camping]] – general camping info
* [[Shuttle service]] – from the train to the camp
* [[What to bring]] – this might help you packing
* [[How to survive]] – general tips to survive the camp
* [[Parcel_deliveries]] - Getting your parcel to your village
}}

{{shabox|title=Staying informed|content=
* Visit the [https://mch2022.org/ website]
* TODO: Join the [https://lists.mch2021.org/mailman/listinfo/orga mailing list]
* The main IRC-Channel is [ircs://irc.oftc.net/mch2022 #mch2022] on oftc.

* Social media: [https://twitter.com/MCH2022camp Twitter] - [https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHmPMdU0O9P_W6I1hNyvBIQ YouTube] - [https://chaos.social/@mch2022camp Mastodon]

* Streaming: [https://streaming.media.ccc.de/mch2022 Productiehuis]

More: [[Staying informed]]
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== About MCH2022 ==
MCH2022 is an international non-profit outdoor hacker camp/conference taking place in The Netherlands in 2022 on July 22rd to 26th. It is the successor of a string of similar events happening every four years: [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Galactic_Hacker_Party GHP], HEU, HIP, [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hackers_at_Large HAL], [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/What_the_Hack WTH], [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hacking_at_Random HAR], [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Observe._Hack._Make. OHM] and [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Still_Hacking_Anyway SHA.] Similar events are [https://www.emfcamp.org/ EMF] in the UK, [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chaos_Communication_Camp CCC Camp] in Germany.

'''Why visit MCH2022''': To be yourself, to have fun. Because there is nothing like it. Meet people that understand you and vice versa. A place to call home. It's made for and by the hacker community. To exchange knowledge. To improve the world. To see the world in a new way.

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Main Page

2022-07-23T17:38:29Z

Juerd:

[[image:mch2022_wallpaper.png|thumb|right|200px|A wallpaper of MCH2022 generated with the [https://mch2022.org/design/ design generator].]]

* This wiki has all relevant information for visitors of MCH2022.
* When: 22nd to 26th July 2022
* Where: [[Location|Scoutinglandgoed in Zeewolde, 55km east of Amsterdam]]

The camp is organized [https://angel.mch2022.org/ for and by volunteers] from and around all facets of the international hacker community. Knowledge sharing, technological advancement, experimentation, connecting with your hacker peers, and of course hacking are some of the core values of this event. During the camp there are [https://program.mch2022.org/ hundreds of talks] and activities to participate in.
<br clear=both>
<div style="width:45em;margin:auto;padding:1ex;border:1ex solid #fa448c;background:#fec859;text-align:center">{{shabox|title=When things go wrong|content=}}
{|class=wikitable style="width:100%;text-align:left"
!style="text-align:left !important" | Nature of the issue
!style="text-align:left !important" | Team
!style="text-align:left !important" | DECT
!style="text-align:left !important" | External phone
!style="text-align:left !important" | Email
|-
| Fire || [[Team:Fire]] || 2222 || +31 85 234 2222 || cpmch22@gmail.com
|-
| Medical || [[Team:First-AID]] || 2222 || +31 85 234 2222 || cpmch22@gmail.com
|-
| Noise complaints,<br>general security issues || [[Team:Security]] || 2222 || +31 85 234 2222 || cpmch22@gmail.com
|-
| Harassment, misconduct || [[Team:Cohesion]] || ? || +31 6 86 88 41 78 || cohesion@mch2022.org
|}
In case of emergencies, please use a phone instead of email.

Phone system down? Find an angel with an MCH radio (walkie-talkie), or run to the First Aid tent.
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{{shabox|title=How to participate|content=
* [[Volunteer]] – become an Angel! [https://angel.mch2022.org/ Sign up HERE]
* [[Self-organized Sessions]] – host your own talk, workshop, hack session, meeting
* [[Villages]] – set up a spot about a subject/region
* [[Projects]] – do your project at the camp
* [https://mch2022.org/design Design] – create MCH designs for your village/project
* [https://gitlab.com/maycontainhackers GitLab] – edit ALL the things
* [[Starter|Start here]] – Lost? Don't know where to start? Begin here!
}}
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{{shabox|title=Countdown|content=
<span style="text-align:center; width:100%">{{Countdown}}</span>


}}
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{{shabox|title=General|content=
* [https://maps.mch2022.org/ Map] - The entire field, on your screen. Magic.
* [https://program.mch2022.org/ Program] - schedule of the conference program
* [[Facilities]] – list of facilities at the camp
* [[Tickets]] – everything about tickets
* [[FAQ]] – many questions answered
* [[Harbour]] – come to MCH by boat
* [[Code of Conduct]]

=== Visitor initiatives ===
* [[Carpooling]]
* [[Ticket_Exchange|Ticket Exchange]]
* [[POIDH|Pics or It Didn't Happen]]
* [[Certificate|Certificate of Attendance]]™
}}

</td><td style="vertical-align: top; width:50%">
{{shabox|title=Camping|content=
* [[Location]] – how to get there
* [[Camping]] – general camping info
* [[Shuttle service]] – from the train to the camp
* [[What to bring]] – this might help you packing
* [[How to survive]] – general tips to survive the camp
* [[Parcel_deliveries]] - Getting your parcel to your village
}}

{{shabox|title=Staying informed|content=
* Visit the [https://mch2022.org/ website]
* TODO: Join the [https://lists.mch2021.org/mailman/listinfo/orga mailing list]
* The main IRC-Channel is [ircs://irc.oftc.net/mch2022 #mch2022] on oftc.

* Social media: [https://twitter.com/MCH2022camp Twitter] - [https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHmPMdU0O9P_W6I1hNyvBIQ YouTube] - [https://chaos.social/@mch2022camp Mastodon]

* Streaming: [https://streaming.media.ccc.de/mch2022 Productiehuis]

More: [[Staying informed]]
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== About MCH2022 ==
MCH2022 is an international non-profit outdoor hacker camp/conference taking place in The Netherlands in 2022 on July 22rd to 26th. It is the successor of a string of similar events happening every four years: [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Galactic_Hacker_Party GHP], HEU, HIP, [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hackers_at_Large HAL], [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/What_the_Hack WTH], [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hacking_at_Random HAR], [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Observe._Hack._Make. OHM] and [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Still_Hacking_Anyway SHA.] Similar events are [https://www.emfcamp.org/ EMF] in the UK, [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chaos_Communication_Camp CCC Camp] in Germany.

'''Why visit MCH2022''': To be yourself, to have fun. Because there is nothing like it. Meet people that understand you and vice versa. A place to call home. It's made for and by the hacker community. To exchange knowledge. To improve the world. To see the world in a new way.

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Main Page

2022-07-23T17:27:28Z

Juerd:

[[image:mch2022_wallpaper.png|thumb|right|200px|A wallpaper of MCH2022 generated with the [https://mch2022.org/design/ design generator].]]

* This wiki has all relevant information for visitors of MCH2022.
* When: 22nd to 26th July 2022
* Where: [[Location|Scoutinglandgoed in Zeewolde, 55km east of Amsterdam]]

The camp is organized [https://angel.mch2022.org/ for and by volunteers] from and around all facets of the international hacker community. Knowledge sharing, technological advancement, experimentation, connecting with your hacker peers, and of course hacking are some of the core values of this event. During the camp there are [https://program.mch2022.org/ hundreds of talks] and activities to participate in.
<br clear=both>
<div style="width:45em;margin:auto;padding:1ex;border:1ex solid #fa448c;background:#fec859;text-align:center">{{shabox|title=When things go wrong|content=}}
{|class=wikitable style="width:100%;text-align:left"
!style="text-align:left !important" | Nature of the issue
!style="text-align:left !important" | Team
!style="text-align:left !important" | DECT
!style="text-align:left !important" | External phone
!style="text-align:left !important" | Email
|-
| Fire || [[Team:Fire]] || 2222 || +31 85 234 2222 || cpmch22@gmail.com
|-
| Medical || [[Team:First-AID]] || 2222 || +31 85 234 2222 || cpmch22@gmail.com
|-
| Noise complaints,<br>general security issues || [[Team:Security]] || 2222 || +31 85 234 2222 || cpmch22@gmail.com
|-
| Harassment, misconduct || [[Team:Cohesion]] || ? || +31 6 86 88 41 78 || cohesion@mch2022.org
|}
In case of emergencies, please use a phone instead of email.
</div>

<table style="width: 100%">
<tr>
<td style="vertical-align: top; width:50%">
{{shabox|title=How to participate|content=
* [[Volunteer]] – become an Angel! [https://angel.mch2022.org/ Sign up HERE]
* [[Self-organized Sessions]] – host your own talk, workshop, hack session, meeting
* [[Villages]] – set up a spot about a subject/region
* [[Projects]] – do your project at the camp
* [https://mch2022.org/design Design] – create MCH designs for your village/project
* [https://gitlab.com/maycontainhackers GitLab] – edit ALL the things
* [[Starter|Start here]] – Lost? Don't know where to start? Begin here!
}}
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<td style="vertical-align: top; width:50%; padding-right:10px;">
{{shabox|title=Countdown|content=
<span style="text-align:center; width:100%">{{Countdown}}</span>


}}
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{{shabox|title=General|content=
* [https://maps.mch2022.org/ Map] - The entire field, on your screen. Magic.
* [https://program.mch2022.org/ Program] - schedule of the conference program
* [[Facilities]] – list of facilities at the camp
* [[Tickets]] – everything about tickets
* [[FAQ]] – many questions answered
* [[Harbour]] – come to MCH by boat
* [[Code of Conduct]]

=== Visitor initiatives ===
* [[Carpooling]]
* [[Ticket_Exchange|Ticket Exchange]]
* [[POIDH|Pics or It Didn't Happen]]
* [[Certificate|Certificate of Attendance]]™
}}

</td><td style="vertical-align: top; width:50%">
{{shabox|title=Camping|content=
* [[Location]] – how to get there
* [[Camping]] – general camping info
* [[Shuttle service]] – from the train to the camp
* [[What to bring]] – this might help you packing
* [[How to survive]] – general tips to survive the camp
* [[Parcel_deliveries]] - Getting your parcel to your village
}}

{{shabox|title=Staying informed|content=
* Visit the [https://mch2022.org/ website]
* TODO: Join the [https://lists.mch2021.org/mailman/listinfo/orga mailing list]
* The main IRC-Channel is [ircs://irc.oftc.net/mch2022 #mch2022] on oftc.

* Social media: [https://twitter.com/MCH2022camp Twitter] - [https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHmPMdU0O9P_W6I1hNyvBIQ YouTube] - [https://chaos.social/@mch2022camp Mastodon]

* Streaming: [https://streaming.media.ccc.de/mch2022 Productiehuis]

More: [[Staying informed]]
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== About MCH2022 ==
MCH2022 is an international non-profit outdoor hacker camp/conference taking place in The Netherlands in 2022 on July 22rd to 26th. It is the successor of a string of similar events happening every four years: [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Galactic_Hacker_Party GHP], HEU, HIP, [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hackers_at_Large HAL], [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/What_the_Hack WTH], [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hacking_at_Random HAR], [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Observe._Hack._Make. OHM] and [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Still_Hacking_Anyway SHA.] Similar events are [https://www.emfcamp.org/ EMF] in the UK, [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chaos_Communication_Camp CCC Camp] in Germany.

'''Why visit MCH2022''': To be yourself, to have fun. Because there is nothing like it. Meet people that understand you and vice versa. A place to call home. It's made for and by the hacker community. To exchange knowledge. To improve the world. To see the world in a new way.

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Ticket Exchange

2022-07-22T08:40:14Z

Juerd:

You have a ticket that you want to sell again, say, because you can't make it to the camp?<br />
Searching for a ticket with payment variants that are not offered in the ticket shop?<br />
Cancellation of a ticket is in general not possible, so swap your ticket!

This is site is dedicated for swapping spare tickets between people.

Note that there are <s>still</s> <s>no</s> tickets to buy in the [https://tickets.mch2022.org/ official ticket store] again!

{{visitorinitiative|additional_text=Be warned that ticket selling/buying comes at a high fraud risk! Be sure to establish trust with the person you're buying tickets from!}}

== Selling procedure ==
Selling your ticket is just fine. We can invalidate the old ID and generate a new one. Send an e-mail to tickets@mch2022.org

== Ticket offers ==
* Every standard/earlybird/silver/gold/business/kids ticket includes camping stay, conference admission, and tourist tax.
* Note that a "camper ticket" refers to a camper '''van'''; you will also need a regular conference ticket and (in case of a trailer/caravan) a parking ticket for your car.
* Some sellers indicate that they've donated to MCH2022 (thanks!). Buyers should be aware that this does not give additional privileges or goodies, we're just very thankful.

{|class="wikitable"
|-
!Name
!Contact
!Details
!Price
!Comment
|-
| Pilosus
| fvdm1992@yahoo.no
| Standard early bird ticket, tshirt L
| 150 EUR
| added 2022-07-21
|-
| djrevmoon
| djrevmoon@gmail.com
| one camper/caravan ticket
| 40 EUR
| added 2022-07-21
|-
| gregor
| gw@communitylabs.de
| 1 camper ticket
| 80 eur
| added 2022-07-21
|-
| Patrick
| pat@schlafhacking.de
| 1 Standard Ticket
| 300€ (I paid 355,55)
| Still available as of 2022-07-20
|-
| BecHa
| becha@xs4all.nl / 0621258191 (Signal)
| 1 Camper Ticket
| 80€
|
|-
| Kreativmonkey
| mch@calyrium.org / 00491706031868 (Signal)
| 1 Standard Ticket
| Pay what you want
| available 2022-07-21
|-
| Joona
| joona.kannisto[at]gmail.com
| 1 Standard Ticket
| 333.33€
|
|-
| pft
| mchticket@leterrible.de
| 1 Standard early bird Ticket + 1 camper ticket
| 250€ (paid 313.37€)
| One person couldn't come... Could also lower the price more if needed. Still available 21.07.2022
|-
| pft
| mchticket@leterrible.de
| 1 camper ticket
| 60€ (paid 80€)
| If your camper is no boring white box (or >20years old I will sell it for less/give it away ;)). Still available 21.07.2022
|-
| Konstantin
| Keizerpenguin420[at]gmail.com
| 1 Standard Ticket
| 270€ (paid 355€)
| Tested Covid positive so I can not attend, giving some the opportunity to attend at a low price.
|-
| Russ
| russell.couper[at]aarrgghh.co.uk / +44 (0)7970574605
| 1 Standard Ticket + 1x motorbike parking
| ~280€ (Paid €355 + €21 parking)
| Caught Covid so can't travel. Low resell price to help someone else out.
|-
|-
| oleg
| gelosi[at]gmail.com
| 1 Standard Ticket + 1x Parking Ticket
| 330€
| Paid €386.44 Can't attend (yeah, war has changed my life), will be happy with 330€
|-
| soeren
| sdaehnrich[at]gmail.com
| 1 Standard Ticket
| 330€
|
|-
| verpoler
| do1hdr at pm.me
| 1 Camper Ticket
| 80€
|
|-
| William
| wbkennedy1[at]gmail.com
| 1 Standard Ticket
| 330€ obo
| coming from a conference in sri lanka and flight got cancelled.. :(((
|-
| Tuukka Kivilahti, TKffTK
| tuukka.kivilahti@remod.fi, +358504491824 (whatsapp & TG)
| 1 Standard Ticket, I paid 344 €
| 250 €
| Still available 2022-07-22, My friends are participating to the event -> ticket and money exchange can be done next to the event site or remotely, which one is preferred.
|-
| Olga
| olga.mch2022 at herenstraat.nl or Signal/WhatsApp +353877684322
| 1 Standard Early-Bird Ticket + €50 donation (paid €313.37)
| +/- €200.00 (Suggest your amount!)
| Still available as of 2022-07-20
|-
| XaFoah2u
| xaFoah2u at outlook.com
| 1 Standard Early-Bird Ticket, startup donation
| €263.37
|
|-
| Pawsen
| pawsen+mchticket at gmail.com
| 1 Standard Early-Bird Ticket for EUR 263.37 (same price I paid)
| €263.37
| Still available
|-
|Jake
|t222w2lgvvc@temp.mailbox.org
|1 Standard Ticket
|What I paid minus donation - 333.33 EUR
|Feel free to contact me when the official Ticket Shop has sold out. I do not wish to frustrate the official ticket sales.
|-
|Arnoud
|a.vermeer [at] freshway.biz
|1 Standard Ticket
|Same as what I paid - 333.33 EUR
|
|-
|Kien
|info at ktruong dot dev
|1 Standard Ticket
|Same as what I paid - 355.55 EUR
|
|-
| miniBill - Leonardo Taglialegne
| name@surname.it / @miniBill (twitter)
| 1 Standard Ticket
| What I paid, rounded down - 350.00 EUR
| :(
|-
|-
| Luker - Luca Fulchir
| name@surname.it / @FulchirLuca (twitter)
| 1 Standard Ticket
| what you want, make your offer.
| got covid 1w ago, still positive ;_;
|-
| Simon
| mch[at]kuhball.de
| 1 Standard Ticket
| Paid 333,33 Euros (50 donation), would be happy with around 200
|
|-
|Ken
|0xblob256@gmail.com
|1 Kartent
|50 EUR
|DM if you are interested, you will get the tent at 22nd (first day)
|-
|Gabriele
|gmodena@pm.me
|Standard Early-Bird Ticket + Camping Stay + Conference Attendance + Tourist Tax
|€313.37 (same price I paid)
|
|-
|Maarten
|info[at][name].pro
|Harbour berth for boats under 12 meter and under 90cm depth
|75,-
|
|-
| Izoard
| izoard[at]posteo.net
| 1 Standard Ticket + 1 Campervan Ticket
| Paid 413,33 EUR (incl. 50 donation), would be happy with 80 for camper ticket and 250 for attendence+camping
|
|-
| [[User:TraXo|TraXo]]
| mch2022@traxo.net
| 1 Standard Ticket
| 250€
| Still testing positive for C after 11 days, so no camp for me :(
|-
| [[User:Hetti|Hetti]]
| sellmeMCHtix át thepeko.at
| Includes: 2 Standard Tickets (including Donation) + Parking + T-Shirt
| 600€ (Paid 700€)
| Or make me an offer (I would like to have the Shirt and one Badge and willing to give more discount).
|-
| [[User:DenkBrettl|DenkBrettl]]
| denkbrettl át gmail com
| 1 Standard Ticket
| 250€
| Tested positive on the day we wanted to leave :-/
|-
| James
| james [át] jameshallam.info
| 1 Discounted Community Ticket (same as the standard ticket but lower price)
| 200€
| Still available as of 2022-07-19
|-
| [[User:Shroombab|Shroombab]]
| shroombab [át] gmx.at / twitter: @shroombab
| 1 Standard Ticket
| paid 283 Euro plus Donation, selling it for 50%: 141,5 Euro
| Still available as of 2022-07-20
|-
| Mchticket
| mchticket@posteo.net
| 2 standard tickets
| 120€ per ticket
| Still available as of 2022-07-21 evening, payment via cryptocurrency possible on request
|-
| [[User:Gandi|Gandi]]
| mch[at]spaccs.net
| 1 standard ticket
| 173.31€ (paid 355€)
| Flatmate is C-positive, don't want to put you at risk :/
|-
| Maria
| a01503592@unet.univie.ac.at
| 1 Standard Ticket
| 250€
| COVID sucks...
|-
| [[User:Binar|Binar]]
| benedikt[at]at-inet.de
| 2 Standard Tickets, 1 Kartent + Matress for two persons
| 123 € per ticket, 42 € Kartent
| available 2022-07-22
|-
| [[User:Samuel|Samuel]]
| camptickets[at]reaktor23.org
| Standard Ticket, Camper Ticket, T-Shirt Straight-Cut L
| 350 €
| You can also make me an offer and bring a good arguments to accept it
|}

== Already sold ==

Please move entries here once the sale is succesful.

<s>
{|class="wikitable"
|-
!Name
!Contact
!Details
!Price
!Comment
|-
|<s>33dBm<s/>
|<s>peter.... at t-online.de or Twitter @33dBm<s/>
|<s>1 Standard Ticket. Couldn't participate, sometimes things change unexpectedly :-/<s/>
|<s>€250<s/>
| Ticket sold on Jul, 17.
|-
|<s>cyplo<s/>
|<s>cyplo@cyplo.net<s/>
|<s>2 adult tickets<s/>
|<s>€200<s/>
| Ticket sold on 21st of July.
|-
|<s>cyplo<s/>
|<s>cyplo@cyplo.net<s/>
|<s>parking ticket<s/>
|<s>€20<s/>
| Ticket sold on 22st of July.
|-
|<s>kokanin<s/>
|<s>kokanin@gmail.com<s/>
|<s>1 Standard Ticket<s/>
|<s>150 eur<s/>
|<s>sold 2022-07-21<s/>
|-
|<s>Casandro<s/>
|<s>chr... at clarke-3.de</s>
|<s>1 Camper Ticket, 1 Parking Ticket, 1 T-Shirt, 2 Standard Supporter Tickets for €880</s>
|<s>Essentially for the same price I paid for</s> sold
|
|-
|<s>Arron
|<s>arron-mch at nurn.net
|<s>1 Standard Early-Bird Ticket, startup donation, T-shirt + Hoodie for €385.87
|<s>€325</s> '''SOLD'''
|
|-
|<s>Scriptkiddi
|<s>mch22@otlingha.us
|<s>2 Standard Ticket, startup donation, parking
|SOLD
|
|-
|<s>Ruf<u>zz</s>
|<s>mch22@xxx</s>
|<s>1 Standard Ticket, startup donation</s>
|<s>€275</s> <b>SOLD</b>
|<i>Ticket sold on June 29
|-
|<s>nobody96</s>
|<s>nobody96@blueboot.org</s>
|<s>2 Standart Tickets and a parking ticket</s>
|<s>€700 (or less, make an offer)</s> <b>SOLD</b>
|
|-
|<s>Łukasz</s>
|<s>nzm94w0r53t@temp.mailbox.org</s>
|<s>1 Standard Ticket, startup donation</s>
|<s>same what I paid - 283EUR <b>SOLD</b></s>
|<s> Expecting to finalize the deal this week with current buyer (04.07)</s>
|-
|<s>Thomas</s>
|<s>thomas@thomasthanner.de</s>
|<s>1 Standard Ticket + 1 Camper Ticket</s>
|<s>same what I paid - 363.33 EUR</s>
|Standard ticket sold. Camper ticket sold.
|-
|Marcin
|aumitech+mch at protonmail.com
|1 Standard Early-Bird Ticket, startup donation
|€230 (or less, we can work it out if this price would stop you from attending)
|Sold
|-
|<s>eta</s>
|<s>mchticket [at] eta.st, or see [https://eta.st#contact]</s>
|<s>1× Standard Ticket</s>
|<s>250 EUR or 200 GBP</s>
|Sold
|-
|<s>M3</s>
|<s>5001q3wg@duck.com</s>
|<s>1 Camper Ticket</s>
|<s>80 EUR</s>
|Sold
|-
| edauksis
| esteban (at) dauksis.com or telegram @edauksis
| Camper ticket (vehicle) + Standard early bird + Donation
| Paid 393.37 €. Same as what I paid minus donation 340€ make me an offer if you can't afford the full price
|
|-
| <s>Castor</s>
| <s>cpt.glucose@mdaniel.de</s>
| <s>1 Standard Ticket</s>
| <s>200€</s>
| <s>You get the PDF with the QR-code, I already gave the parking QR-code to a friend.</s>
|-
| <s>Harzi
| <s>info at harzi.ch
| <s>1 Standard Ticket + €50 Donation (€333.-)
| <s>€222.- (111€ lower than I paid)
| <s>After payment you will get the Link to the PDF, where you can change details on ticket and download/print it. Later, you can invalidate the old ID and generate a new one.
|-
| Oskar
| oskarc@me.com or Twitter @wagmiteth
| Discounted Community Ticket. Same as the usual ticket but lower price.
| 200€ (50€ lower than I paid). Feel free to come up with an offer if 200€ is too much.
| Sold
|-
| [[User:vollkorn|vollkorn]]
| mch2022TE át vollkorn.cryptobitch.de
| 1 Supporter Tickets (including Donation) + 1 T-Shirt (Straight S) + 1 Zipper (Straight S)
| I'll give this ticket away for free. This way at least someone who otherwise wouldn't have been able to come will get there.
| Tested positive on the day before I wanted to leave :(
|-
|}

</s>

Parcel deliveries

2022-07-19T18:01:58Z

Juerd:

search terms: packet delivery, logistics

= Shipping things to MCH2022 =

It is possible to ship parcels to MCH2022. However, it's a lot of work for us and many things can go wrong. Therefore, we'd prefer it if you can find alternatives to shipping things to the site. This way we can avoid a lot of disappointment and effort.

= Alternatives: =

* Please try hard to find someone with a car who is going to the site. If you don't know anyone, ask on the [[IRC]] channel (#mch2022 on OFTC).

* Check whether your local hackerspace is organizing bulk transport to the site (many are) and whether you can ship/bring things to said space ahead of the event as well and have it join said transport.

= What can go wrong =

* We have no way of tracking packages beyond this (publicly editable) wiki page. Packages can get lost, misdelivered, or damaged and we are not able to do anything about it.
* The event is at a site that does not usually receive large volumes of mail and is not familiar to courier services. This means delivery services may attempt to deliver to the wrong place, and packages would be very difficult to trace.
* We are not set up for significant logistics and package handling on site. We are all volunteers that have a lot of other tasks to do and package handling is something we do when we can and if we can, but our priority is making a cool hacker camp happen, not running a post office.

If you have no other options, we do offer a best-effort service, but there are no guarantees. Specifically:

= DISCLAIMER =

* MCH2022 and Stichting IFCAT Foundation accept no liability for your package.
* Although we will sign for receipt, we are not able to take responsibility of your package. If it happens to be damaged, stolen in transit, has the wrong contents, or it gets delivered to the wrong place, there is nothing we'll be able to do to help you.
* If for any reason your package seems dangerous in any way, we might reject or dispose of it before informing you — and still disclaim any liability.

If your package gets lost, there is nothing we can do about it. Please only use this option as a last resort.

= Howto =

To ship a package to MCH2022, follow the following steps

1. Make sure it's a package, not a letter/envelope. We have limited infrastructure for handling packages but no infrastructure at all for handling envelopes. Sorry!

2. If your package is above 23 kg it **must** be on a pallet. Make sure it is either below that limit, or packaged on a pallet. If a package is on a pallet, make sure it's weatherproof as it may get rained on during transport and storage.

3. Make sure the package does not consist of food or perishable items (see below)

4. Check that the package is able to arrive between **Monday, July 18th** and **Tuesday, July 26th**. We are not able to receive packages at all outside this time window. If a package arrives outside that time window, it will most likely not reach us, and therefore also not reach you.

5. Make sure the package is addressed correctly. Please use the following address format if possible, or at least include all the following information:

To: YOUR NAME @ YOUR VILLAGE
MCH2022 Team Logistics p/a Scoutinglandgoed

Nulderpad 5
3896 LV Zeewolde
The Netherlands

Note that "LV" is part of the postal code "3896 LV".

'''If the shipping company requires a phone number, put **your own** phone number on the shipping label. That way you can react if the shipping company gets confused about where to deliver. Please do not use our phone numbers, as we can't guarantee reachability at the time the package is due to be delivered.'''

6. Add your package to the list at the end of this page. The list is sorted by projected arrival day. Please keep it this way. We will update this page once we receive the package.

= Perishable or food items =
Perishable or food items include BBQ meat, pizza, drinks, and perishable foods. We cannot handle deliveries of such items on site at all.

We have contractual obligations to our food vendors on site that prevent us from delivering food or accepting food deliveries. We also don't have the capacity for cold storage, rapid delivery, or food-safe logistics. Please understand that we can't offer this kind of service and don't ask us about it. Sorry!

If you want to have food delivered to you on site, you're on your own. You will have to wait for it at the gate until it arrives and intercept them yourself. Delivery trucks are not allowed on the terrain. Be aware that many food suppliers have quite strict policies on deliveries, and will not deliver to a site like ours anyway. If you need large quantities of food, a better choice might be to do a shopping run yourself in a nearby supermarket. A list of supermarkets and their opening hours are on the [[Supermarkets|Supermarkets wiki page]].

= Delivery policy =

== No envelopes! ==

Note: we '''can't''' receive envelopes, so make sure small stuff is in a box even if it would fit in an envelope.

== Small parcels ==

Small parcels (boxes) will be routed to our storage; once it has arrived, infodesk can tell you where to pick it up. The limit for small boxes is 23 kg. We will try to update this page when the shipment arrives.

== Big parcels ==

Any parcel above 23 kg counts as big.

Big parcels **MUST BE ON A PALLET**. They will be delivered to the village directly if the village has a known location (a tent) that is reachable by one of the roads. If not, we'll leave it at a place we can access by road -- possibly in a restricted area from which you cannot pick it up without our help. Packages might get rained on in transit or in storage, so please make sure they are weatherproof.

'''Please do not have anything shipped to the site (by any means) that you are not able to transport back away from the site.'''

= Expected/delivered packages - ADD TO THIS LIST!! =

Please sort by date.

{|class=wikitable
! Expected arrival date !! Recipient name !! Village !! How big and heavy is it?<br>''metric please!'' !! Description of contents !! Received? (to be edited by Team:Warehouse)
|- style="background: #faa;"
| Before Monday Jul 18
|colspan=5| Absolutely do not have anything delivered before Monday 18th of July.<br>We don't have the people or equipment to deal with it.
|-
| 2022-07-18 || Example || Example || small example package (0.5kg) || example contents
|-
| 2022-07-18 || Tapio Haapala [[User:Burner|Burner]]@OFTC || [[Village:PRKL|PRKL]] || 80x120x220cm EURpal ~500kg || Finnish village stuff
|-
| 2022-07-18 || [[User:1183519e|_luc]] @ NOC || [[Team:NOC|NOC]] || Medium Amazon package || electronics || -
|-
| 2022-07-18 || Q Misell || [[Team:NOC|NOC]] || Small parcel <2kg || Engelbert Strauss shorts || -
|-
| 2022-07-18 || Bix || [[Team:Productiehuis|Productiehuis]] || medium sized box, but heavy (23kg) (Thomann via UPS) || Gaffer tape || -
|-
| 2022-07-19 || Sebastius / Bas Oort || Heaven || 10x10x150cm, lightweight <5kg || 2x Banner for heaven || -
|-
| 2022-07-19 || [[User:ripper|ripper]] || Leiwandville || below 25x25x20cm, 10kg (guesstimate) || Stuff for repairing tent tarps || -
|-
| 2022-07-19 || Stef Louwers [[User:Fhp]] || [[Team:Family]] || Probably a big box, not very heavy || [[Team:Family/InflatableFunLand|Inflatables]] and frisbees from internet-toys.nl / tom.shop || -
|-
| 2022-07-19 || Stef Louwers [[User:Fhp]] || [[Team:Family]] || Two boxes || [[Team:Family/InflatableFunLand|Inflatables]] from summertoys.nl via HDL || At LHQ, please pick up
|-
| 2022-07-19 || Florian Overkamp [[User:Sim]] || [[Team:Family]] || Small box, lightweight <5kg || Test tubes from Reageerbuiswinkel.nl - Jaff Jaff || At LHQ, please pick up
|-
| 2022-07-19 || [[User:Razamus]] || [[Village:Labitat|Labitat]] || 2 parcels. One is smaller. The other is 30 x 40 x 40 cm. A total weight of 9kg (guesstimate) || Food and kitchen stuff || -
|-
| 2022-07-19 || [[User:boreq]] || [[Village:milliways|milliways]] || 3kg || extension cord and a waterproof plastic box for power distribution stuff || -
|-
| 2022-07-20 || Rowan van der Kaaden [[User:Rowan8k]] || [[Village:tilde.industries and friends]] || 26 x 26 x 21cm, 2,3kg || Patches || -
|-
| 2022-07-20 || Christel Boekenwuurm [[User:Boekenwuurm]] || entrance || 1-4 drukwerkdeal doos || booklets || -
|-
| 2022-07-20 || Stef Louwers [[User:Fhp]] || [[Team:Family]] || 3 drukwerkdeal packages, 50cm long, not heavy || banners || -
|-
| 2022-07-20 || Stef Louwers [[User:Fhp]] || [[Team:Family]] || Hopefully a pallet, 150cm long, heavy (educated guess: 100kg) || bamboosticks || -
|-
| 2022-07-20 || [[User:Razamus]] || [[Village:Labitat|Labitat]] || 10 x 20 x 20 cm, < 1 kg (guesstimate) || Kruidnoten || -
|-
| 2022-07-20 || [[User:Razamus]] || [[Village:Labitat|Labitat]] || 20 x 30 x 4 cm, < 1 kg (guesstimate) || Flag || -
|-
| 2022-07-21 || mc.fly || [[Village:milliways|milliways]] || small heavy package (10.0kg) || fancy metal disks. || -
|-
| 2022-07-21 || Thijs Bosschert [[User:Thice]] || CTF Tent [[Village:CTF]] (We will be onsite ourselves) || 2,5m3 / 100KG (Estimate) || 15 Bean bags || -
|-
| 2022-07-21 || Thijs Bosschert [[User:Thice]] || CTF Tent [[Village:CTF]] <br> (18:00 - 22:00, We will pick it up from the delivery point ourselves) || 22 trays of drinks || drinks || -
|-
| 2022-07-21 || Koen van den Heuvel [[User:Waxdt]] || [[Village:Love_Live_Laugh!_Arcade_Hacking_Festival_~after_camp_ACTIVITY~_Wai-Wai!_Tent_Meeting!!]] or Arcade sponsor tent staff || 144 x 100 x 22cm 6kg || 2 mattresses from Decathlon || -
|-
| 2022-07-21 || [[User:Martin]] || [[Team:Ticket_and_Entrance]] / [[Village:POC]] || Small || Clothing (C&A) || -
|-
| 2022-07-20 || [[User:Martin]] || [[Team:Ticket_and_Entrance]] / [[Village:POC]] || Giant || Euroboxes, Lids, Electronics (Hornbach, 3 Parcels via PostNL) || -
|-
|- style="background: #faa"
| After Tuesday July 26th
|colspan=5| You can't have anything delivered to MCH after the event!
|-
|}

[[Team:Warehouse]]

Team:Off-site transportation

2022-07-12T18:34:50Z

Juerd: /* Requests */

{{Team
|Lead=User:MartinK
|Description=If necessary available to transport equipment to campsite.
If necessary, since at the last event transports like these were just handled by villages themselves.
If there is no need for this service this team will not be activated, however if there is a need for this, one or more small trucks will be rented and can be used to transport needed equipment and materials to and from the campsite when the buildup starts and possibly from the campsite during teardown.
|Exclusive team=No
|team_is_essential_to_event=Substance
|team_has_contact_info=No
|team_has_info_on_wiki=No
|team_has_planned_meetings=No
|team_has_enough_people=Yes
|team_has_drafted_budget=No
|team_has_informed_volunteer_team=No
|Projectleiding=User:Stitch
}}
==Team Members==

{{TeamMemberEntry|User:MartinK}}
{{TeamMemberEntry|User:Xenomatrix}}
{{TeamMemberEntry|User:Vynka}}
==About==

To reduce the total amount of kilometers to be driven and the amount of vehicles rented by the organization. This team provides off-site transport to and from the event for other orga teams. We have 'kavbusjes with lifting platform' so pallets and carts can be transported.

== Volunteer drivers and copilots needed ==

Want to go on a roadtrip through the Netherlands before or after the event and help make it happen without missing any of the main action? Are you an experienced, reasonable and defensive driver that can safely drive a loaded truck with a car license? Or a motivated copilot to handle navigation and communication while on the road? Or a team of both? We'd love to have you!

If you want to help out please contact [[User:Stitch]] or anybody else from this team. We need your help before and after the event. You don't have to be there during the whole buildup or teardown, you can do just one but also multiple tours, depending on when you have time.

==Requesting transport==

* If your payload is small enough to be transported in a private car that is driving anyway and has space, prefer this option.
* Driving around in a truck is expensive. If you need something transported from far away (e.g. outside the Netherlands), a private courier (shipping) is more economical.
* Every pickup location costs additional time and our volunteers' time is precious. Try batching your payload with other teams if possible (e.g. at a Hackerspace). If your item is not too big and <30kg, consider [https://www.postnl.nl/tarieven/tarieven-pakketten/ just mailing it] at a nearby post office.
* We operate efficiently by batching requests. Please be as flexible as possible with regards to pickup and drop-off dates and times.
* To make pickup and return efficient, please have a person waiting for our drivers. We will call them some time before to make sure they didn't forget about us. Alternatively, have detailed pickup instructions and give us keys before the event.



*'''Requestee'''
*'''Team:'''
*'''Contact:''' Name, e-mail, phone, irc, all the things. If anything's good or wrong, you'll know :)
*'''Stuff:''' What you need transported
*'''Fragile:''' True/false
*'''Estimated size:''' (length*width*height) Please try to fit stuff on wrapped pallets, having nothing stick out on the sides, height up to 2.20m
*'''Pallets:''' Amount of pallets
*'''Pickup date range:''' DD-MM-YYYY HH:mm (if TBD, guess)
*'''Return date range:''' DD-MM-YYYY HH:mm (^^)
*'''Pickup location:''' City, street, number
*'''Return location:''' City, street, number
*'''Pickup/return instruction''' Point of contact with phone number we can call half an hour before rendezvous. Handling, pickup/return instructions

== Requests ==

Expecting: deco, <s>badges</s>, noc equipment, warehouse, safety, productiehuis, family village, merch and more.

{| class="wikitable sortable"
! Requestee
! Team
! What
! Size
! N Pallets
! Pickup Date Range
! Return Date Range
! Pickup Location
! Return Location
! Contact of Requester
! Contact on Site (possibly private)
! Instructions

|-
| [[User:Stitch|Stitch]] (06 1342 5622)
| Projectleiding
| All printed MCH materials + Prints for deco team + Silent Lounge + hygienic products (no fluids)
| 8 rolcontainers (roll carts):: 8x 80x70x200 cm roughly, one container has rolls of carpets that are about 2,50m tall in the cart.
| 8 rolcontainers (roll carts): 8x 80x70x200 cm roughly
| 14-18th of july
| Half of it is returned
| Oberon 33, 5221LT,'s-Hertogenbosch (=Den Bosch)
| Hack42, Cruquiusweg 3, 6827 BL Arnhem
| [[User:Stitch]]
| [[User:Stitch]]
| Let me know when you drive...
|-
| [[User:Moem]]
| Deco
| The gate + wood for signs, various lighting, 3 lecterns, 1 large water tank
| 10 rolling carts
| 1 pallet (water tank)
| 15th is fine
| About half is returned, we don't care when
| Wijchen (Nieuweweg 197f)
| Wijchen (Nieuweweg 197f)
| [[User:Moem]] Phone +31 6 20889877
| [[User:Moem]] Phone +31 6 20889877
| Let me know when and I'll be there
|-
| [[User:Netsmurf]]
| Party/Horeca
| Tosters/fryers/washing machine/dryer/etc
| ?
| 3 or 4
| 14-18 July
| 28-29 July
| Akersloot
| Akersloot
| [[User:Netsmurf]]
| [[User:Netsmurf]]
| Keys are needed to access location
|-
| [[User:Netsmurf]]
| Merchandizing
| Collect Merchandize from Supplier
| ?
| 3 or 4
| 19-20 July
| Not needed
| Diemen
| [[User:Netsmurf]]
| [[User:Netsmurf]]
| Appointment with suplier needs to be made
|-
| [[User:Netsmurf]]
| Early Kartent Run
| Collect a few Kartents from Supplier
| ?
| 1 but large
| 14 July
| Not needed
| Amsterdam
| [[User:Netsmurf]]
| [[User:Netsmurf]]
| Appointment with suplier needs to be made
|-
| [[User:Polyfloyd]]
| Deco
| Light fixtures, needed by other teams so they do not trip
| 8 boxes of 122x20x35cm and power cords
| 1-ish
| <=15 July
| late teardown
| Bitlair, Amersfoort
| Preferrably none, give away
| [[User:Polyfloyd]]
| [[User:Polyfloyd]]
| Any Bitlair participant can provide access
|-
| [[User:Polyfloyd]]
| Deco
| Light fixtures, the large ones
| 7 units of ~160x20x15cm
| _
| early build up
| late teardown
| Bitlair, Amersfoort
| Preferrably none, give away
| [[User:Polyfloyd]]
| [[User:Polyfloyd]]
| Any Bitlair participant can provide access
|-
| [[User:Polyfloyd]]
| Deco
| Crystal Obelisk decoration
| 16 units of 140x32x32cm and a box of pedestals
| 1-ish, the units can be stacked but nothing else can be stacked on top
| Day -4 to Day -1
| late teardown
| Bitlair, Amersfoort
| Polyfloyd's home near Amersfoort
| [[User:Polyfloyd]]
| [[User:Polyfloyd]]
| Any Bitlair participant can provide access to pickup location
|-
| [[User:F0x]]
| Warehouse
| CC containers
| Large
| Not palletizable
| 15 july<br>time tbd; see last column
| 28-29 july
| Zeewolde
| Zeewolde
| [[User:F0x]]
| [[User:Peetz0r]]
| Truck preferably leaves the moment the LHQ portacabins arrive; the time at which this happens will probably not be known in advance
|-
| [[User:F0x]] (Warehouse), [[User:Sebastius]] (Volunteers), [[User:benadski]] (Power/Lighting)
| Warehouse, Volunteers, Finance, Infodesk, Moebelhaus, PL, ROC, Safety, Speakerdesk, Terrain, Waste, Family, Badge, Lighting, Power
| Everything
| 1 shitload (really A LOT; empty van (or almost empty) recommended)
| not on pallets
| 15 july<br>
| 29 july
| RevSpace, Leidschendam
| RevSpace, Leidschendam
| [[User:F0x]]
| [[User:Peetz0r]]
| Any RevSpace participant can provide access to pickup location.<br>During buildup, the offsite truck preferably leaves for RevSpace right after dropping off the CC containers
|-
| [[User:AK47]]
| NOC
| NOC equipment/cabling/etc
| Various flightcases/spools/etc (1 or 2 Sprinters full)
| ±10 (1 or 2 Sprinters full)
| Friday July 15th
| Wednesday July 28th or Thursday July 29th
| EventInfra, Bitlair, Computerweg 20a, Amersfoort
| EventInfra, Bitlair, Computerweg 20a, Amersfoort
| [[User:AK47]]
| [[User:AK47]]
| EventInfra keyholder needs to be present
|-
| [[User:Hoxolotl]]
| Deco
| Aluminium trusses and boxes of parts, bycycle and bycycle trailer for use on terrain
| trusses of 20x20cm with lengths up to 220cm see list on deco page dragon project https://wiki.mch2022.org/Dragon. bycycle, small bycycle trailer (pallet-size ish). 4 big boxes of electronics, 1 crate. a pile (60) of empty small samla boxes.
| 4-ish
| 14 or 15 july
| late teardown
| Hoxolotl Basement, TkkrLab both in Enschede
| Return trusses and bycycle to basement, other stuff TBD. Be warned Hoxolotl is NOT available the 29th July
| [[User:Hoxolotl]]
| [[User:Hoxolotl]]
| Contact Hoxolotl
|-
| [[User:Pwuts]]
| Badge
| Badges + related materials
| 3 roll containers worth of badges + 1 partially filled with related materials. We do not need the roll containers at the event, so they can be left @ Bitlair.
| 2 if palletized
| 18-20 July
| Probably not needed
| Bitlair, Amersfoort
| -
| [[User:Pwuts]]
| TBD
| Roll containers with badges are in locked Eventinfra storage @ Bitlair, 2 downstairs + 1 upstairs, so coordination with someone with a key is required for pickup. All other stuff is on a roll container in the lounge @ Bitlair. Badges go to logistics warehouse, other stuff to badge tent.
|-
| [[User:denz]]
| Horeca/Bar
| 40 kratten bier
| 1 pallet
| 1 pallet
| 20 july
| teardown
| Nijmegen
| Nijmegen
| [[User:denz]]
| [[User:denz]]
| Contact denz
|-
| [[User:whizzi]]
| RetroSquare
| 2 rolcontainers retro hardware
| 2 rolcontainers
| 2 rolcontainers
| Any Time
| Any Time
| Helmond
| Helmond
| [[User:whizzi]]
| [[User:whizzi]]
| Contact Whizzi
|-
|}

Team:Off-site transportation

2022-07-12T18:34:05Z

Juerd: /* Requests */

{{Team
|Lead=User:MartinK
|Description=If necessary available to transport equipment to campsite.
If necessary, since at the last event transports like these were just handled by villages themselves.
If there is no need for this service this team will not be activated, however if there is a need for this, one or more small trucks will be rented and can be used to transport needed equipment and materials to and from the campsite when the buildup starts and possibly from the campsite during teardown.
|Exclusive team=No
|team_is_essential_to_event=Substance
|team_has_contact_info=No
|team_has_info_on_wiki=No
|team_has_planned_meetings=No
|team_has_enough_people=Yes
|team_has_drafted_budget=No
|team_has_informed_volunteer_team=No
|Projectleiding=User:Stitch
}}
==Team Members==

{{TeamMemberEntry|User:MartinK}}
{{TeamMemberEntry|User:Xenomatrix}}
{{TeamMemberEntry|User:Vynka}}
==About==

To reduce the total amount of kilometers to be driven and the amount of vehicles rented by the organization. This team provides off-site transport to and from the event for other orga teams. We have 'kavbusjes with lifting platform' so pallets and carts can be transported.

== Volunteer drivers and copilots needed ==

Want to go on a roadtrip through the Netherlands before or after the event and help make it happen without missing any of the main action? Are you an experienced, reasonable and defensive driver that can safely drive a loaded truck with a car license? Or a motivated copilot to handle navigation and communication while on the road? Or a team of both? We'd love to have you!

If you want to help out please contact [[User:Stitch]] or anybody else from this team. We need your help before and after the event. You don't have to be there during the whole buildup or teardown, you can do just one but also multiple tours, depending on when you have time.

==Requesting transport==

* If your payload is small enough to be transported in a private car that is driving anyway and has space, prefer this option.
* Driving around in a truck is expensive. If you need something transported from far away (e.g. outside the Netherlands), a private courier (shipping) is more economical.
* Every pickup location costs additional time and our volunteers' time is precious. Try batching your payload with other teams if possible (e.g. at a Hackerspace). If your item is not too big and <30kg, consider [https://www.postnl.nl/tarieven/tarieven-pakketten/ just mailing it] at a nearby post office.
* We operate efficiently by batching requests. Please be as flexible as possible with regards to pickup and drop-off dates and times.
* To make pickup and return efficient, please have a person waiting for our drivers. We will call them some time before to make sure they didn't forget about us. Alternatively, have detailed pickup instructions and give us keys before the event.



*'''Requestee'''
*'''Team:'''
*'''Contact:''' Name, e-mail, phone, irc, all the things. If anything's good or wrong, you'll know :)
*'''Stuff:''' What you need transported
*'''Fragile:''' True/false
*'''Estimated size:''' (length*width*height) Please try to fit stuff on wrapped pallets, having nothing stick out on the sides, height up to 2.20m
*'''Pallets:''' Amount of pallets
*'''Pickup date range:''' DD-MM-YYYY HH:mm (if TBD, guess)
*'''Return date range:''' DD-MM-YYYY HH:mm (^^)
*'''Pickup location:''' City, street, number
*'''Return location:''' City, street, number
*'''Pickup/return instruction''' Point of contact with phone number we can call half an hour before rendezvous. Handling, pickup/return instructions

== Requests ==

Expecting: deco, <s>badges</s>, noc equipment, warehouse, safety, productiehuis, family village, merch and more.

{| class="wikitable sortable"
! Requestee
! Team
! What
! Size
! N Pallets
! Pickup Date Range
! Return Date Range
! Pickup Location
! Return Location
! Contact of Requester
! Contact on Site (possibly private)
! Instructions

|-
| [[User:Stitch|Stitch]] (06 1342 5622)
| Projectleiding
| All printed MCH materials + Prints for deco team + Silent Lounge + hygienic products (no fluids)
| 8 rolcontainers (roll carts):: 8x 80x70x200 cm roughly, one container has rolls of carpets that are about 2,50m tall in the cart.
| 8 rolcontainers (roll carts): 8x 80x70x200 cm roughly
| 14-18th of july
| Half of it is returned
| Oberon 33, 5221LT,'s-Hertogenbosch (=Den Bosch)
| Hack42, Cruquiusweg 3, 6827 BL Arnhem
| [[User:Stitch]]
| [[User:Stitch]]
| Let me know when you drive...
|-
| [[User:Moem]]
| Deco
| The gate + wood for signs, various lighting, 3 lecterns, 1 large water tank
| 10 rolling carts
| 1 pallet (water tank)
| 15th is fine
| About half is returned, we don't care when
| Wijchen (Nieuweweg 197f)
| Wijchen (Nieuweweg 197f)
| [[User:Moem]] Phone +31 6 20889877
| [[User:Moem]] Phone +31 6 20889877
| Let me know when and I'll be there
|-
| [[User:Netsmurf]]
| Party/Horeca
| Tosters/fryers/washing machine/dryer/etc
| ?
| 3 or 4
| 14-18 July
| 28-29 July
| Akersloot
| Akersloot
| [[User:Netsmurf]]
| [[User:Netsmurf]]
| Keys are needed to access location
|-
| [[User:Netsmurf]]
| Merchandizing
| Collect Merchandize from Supplier
| ?
| 3 or 4
| 19-20 July
| Not needed
| Diemen
| [[User:Netsmurf]]
| [[User:Netsmurf]]
| Appointment with suplier needs to be made
|-
| [[User:Netsmurf]]
| Early Kartent Run
| Collect a few Kartents from Supplier
| ?
| 1 but large
| 14 July
| Not needed
| Amsterdam
| [[User:Netsmurf]]
| [[User:Netsmurf]]
| Appointment with suplier needs to be made
|-
| [[User:Polyfloyd]]
| Deco
| Light fixtures, needed by other teams so they do not trip
| 8 boxes of 122x20x35cm and power cords
| 1-ish
| <=15 July
| late teardown
| Bitlair, Amersfoort
| Preferrably none, give away
| [[User:Polyfloyd]]
| [[User:Polyfloyd]]
| Any Bitlair participant can provide access
|-
| [[User:Polyfloyd]]
| Deco
| Light fixtures, the large ones
| 7 units of ~160x20x15cm
| _
| early build up
| late teardown
| Bitlair, Amersfoort
| Preferrably none, give away
| [[User:Polyfloyd]]
| [[User:Polyfloyd]]
| Any Bitlair participant can provide access
|-
| [[User:Polyfloyd]]
| Deco
| Crystal Obelisk decoration
| 16 units of 140x32x32cm and a box of pedestals
| 1-ish, the units can be stacked but nothing else can be stacked on top
| Day -4 to Day -1
| late teardown
| Bitlair, Amersfoort
| Polyfloyd's home near Amersfoort
| [[User:Polyfloyd]]
| [[User:Polyfloyd]]
| Any Bitlair participant can provide access to pickup location
|-
| [[User:F0x]]
| Warehouse
| CC containers
| Large
| Not palletizable
| 15 july<br>time tbd; see last column
| 28-29 july
| Zeewolde
| Zeewolde
| [[User:F0x]]
| [[User:Peetz0r]]
| Truck preferably leaves the moment the LHQ portacabins arrive; the time at which this happens will probably not be known in advance
|-
| [[User:F0x]] (Warehouse), [[User:Sebastius]] (Volunteers), [[User:benadski]] (Power/Lighting)
| Warehouse, Volunteers, Finance, Infodesk, Moebelhaus, PL, ROC, Safety, Speakerdesk, Terrain, Waste, Family, Badge, Lighting, Power
| Everything
| 1 shitload (really A LOT; (almost) empty van recommended)
| not on pallets
| 15 july<br>
| 29 july
| RevSpace, Leidschendam
| RevSpace, Leidschendam
| [[User:F0x]]
| [[User:Peetz0r]]
| Any RevSpace participant can provide access to pickup location.<br>During buildup, the offsite truck preferably leaves for RevSpace right after dropping off the CC containers
|-
| [[User:AK47]]
| NOC
| NOC equipment/cabling/etc
| Various flightcases/spools/etc (1 or 2 Sprinters full)
| ±10 (1 or 2 Sprinters full)
| Friday July 15th
| Wednesday July 28th or Thursday July 29th
| EventInfra, Bitlair, Computerweg 20a, Amersfoort
| EventInfra, Bitlair, Computerweg 20a, Amersfoort
| [[User:AK47]]
| [[User:AK47]]
| EventInfra keyholder needs to be present
|-
| [[User:Hoxolotl]]
| Deco
| Aluminium trusses and boxes of parts, bycycle and bycycle trailer for use on terrain
| trusses of 20x20cm with lengths up to 220cm see list on deco page dragon project https://wiki.mch2022.org/Dragon. bycycle, small bycycle trailer (pallet-size ish). 4 big boxes of electronics, 1 crate. a pile (60) of empty small samla boxes.
| 4-ish
| 14 or 15 july
| late teardown
| Hoxolotl Basement, TkkrLab both in Enschede
| Return trusses and bycycle to basement, other stuff TBD. Be warned Hoxolotl is NOT available the 29th July
| [[User:Hoxolotl]]
| [[User:Hoxolotl]]
| Contact Hoxolotl
|-
| [[User:Pwuts]]
| Badge
| Badges + related materials
| 3 roll containers worth of badges + 1 partially filled with related materials. We do not need the roll containers at the event, so they can be left @ Bitlair.
| 2 if palletized
| 18-20 July
| Probably not needed
| Bitlair, Amersfoort
| -
| [[User:Pwuts]]
| TBD
| Roll containers with badges are in locked Eventinfra storage @ Bitlair, 2 downstairs + 1 upstairs, so coordination with someone with a key is required for pickup. All other stuff is on a roll container in the lounge @ Bitlair. Badges go to logistics warehouse, other stuff to badge tent.
|-
| [[User:denz]]
| Horeca/Bar
| 40 kratten bier
| 1 pallet
| 1 pallet
| 20 july
| teardown
| Nijmegen
| Nijmegen
| [[User:denz]]
| [[User:denz]]
| Contact denz
|-
| [[User:whizzi]]
| RetroSquare
| 2 rolcontainers retro hardware
| 2 rolcontainers
| 2 rolcontainers
| Any Time
| Any Time
| Helmond
| Helmond
| [[User:whizzi]]
| [[User:whizzi]]
| Contact Whizzi
|-
|}

User:Juerd

2022-07-11T14:54:28Z

Juerd:

{{UserInfo
|Village=Village:Still Hacking Anyway
|Arrival=2022-07-14
|BuildupVehicle=Car, Transporter
|BuildupTime=before 20.07.22 12:00
|Departure=2022-07-29
|Languages=EN, NL, (DE, EO)
|HackerSpace=RevSpace
}}

Ticket Exchange

2022-07-11T14:09:38Z

Juerd:

Ticket Exchange

2022-07-11T14:09:16Z

Juerd:

Team:Off-site transportation

2022-07-11T12:31:10Z

Juerd: /* Requests */

{{Team
|Lead=User:MartinK
|Description=If necessary available to transport equipment to campsite.
If necessary, since at the last event transports like these were just handled by villages themselves.
If there is no need for this service this team will not be activated, however if there is a need for this, one or more small trucks will be rented and can be used to transport needed equipment and materials to and from the campsite when the buildup starts and possibly from the campsite during teardown.
|Exclusive team=No
|team_is_essential_to_event=Substance
|team_has_contact_info=No
|team_has_info_on_wiki=No
|team_has_planned_meetings=No
|team_has_enough_people=Yes
|team_has_drafted_budget=No
|team_has_informed_volunteer_team=No
|Projectleiding=User:Stitch
}}
==Team Members==

{{TeamMemberEntry|User:MartinK}}
{{TeamMemberEntry|User:Xenomatrix}}
{{TeamMemberEntry|User:Vynka}}
==About==

To reduce the total amount of kilometers to be driven and the amount of vehicles rented by the organization. This team provides off-site transport to and from the event for other orga teams. We have 'kavbusjes with lifting platform' so pallets and carts can be transported.

== Volunteer drivers and copilots needed ==

Want to go on a roadtrip through the Netherlands before or after the event and help make it happen without missing any of the main action? Are you an experienced, reasonable and defensive driver that can safely drive a loaded truck with a car license? Or a motivated copilot to handle navigation and communication while on the road? Or a team of both? We'd love to have you!

If you want to help out please contact [[User:Stitch]] or anybody else from this team. We need your help before and after the event. You don't have to be there during the whole buildup or teardown, you can do just one but also multiple tours, depending on when you have time.

==Requesting transport==

* If your payload is small enough to be transported in a private car that is driving anyway and has space, prefer this option.
* Driving around in a truck is expensive. If you need something transported from far away (e.g. outside the Netherlands), a private courier (shipping) is more economical.
* Every pickup location costs additional time and our volunteers' time is precious. Try batching your payload with other teams if possible (e.g. at a Hackerspace). If your item is not too big and <30kg, consider [https://www.postnl.nl/tarieven/tarieven-pakketten/ just mailing it] at a nearby post office.
* We operate efficiently by batching requests. Please be as flexible as possible with regards to pickup and drop-off dates and times.
* To make pickup and return efficient, please have a person waiting for our drivers. We will call them some time before to make sure they didn't forget about us. Alternatively, have detailed pickup instructions and give us keys before the event.



*'''Requestee'''
*'''Team:'''
*'''Contact:''' Name, e-mail, phone, irc, all the things. If anything's good or wrong, you'll know :)
*'''Stuff:''' What you need transported
*'''Fragile:''' True/false
*'''Estimated size:''' (length*width*height) Please try to fit stuff on wrapped pallets, having nothing stick out on the sides, height up to 2.20m
*'''Pallets:''' Amount of pallets
*'''Pickup date range:''' DD-MM-YYYY HH:mm (if TBD, guess)
*'''Return date range:''' DD-MM-YYYY HH:mm (^^)
*'''Pickup location:''' City, street, number
*'''Return location:''' City, street, number
*'''Pickup/return instruction''' Point of contact with phone number we can call half an hour before rendezvous. Handling, pickup/return instructions

== Requests ==

Expecting: deco, <s>badges</s>, noc equipment, warehouse, safety, productiehuis, family village, merch and more.

{| class="wikitable sortable"
! Requestee
! Team
! What
! Size
! N Pallets
! Pickup Date Range
! Return Date Range
! Pickup Location
! Return Location
! Contact of Requester
! Contact on Site (possibly private)
! Instructions

|-
| [[User:Stitch|Stitch]] (06 1342 5622)
| Projectleiding
| All printed MCH materials + Prints for deco team + Silent Lounge + hygienic products (no fluids)
| 8 rolcontainers (roll carts):: 8x 80x70x200 cm roughly, one container has rolls of carpets that are about 2,50m tall in the cart.
| 8 rolcontainers (roll carts): 8x 80x70x200 cm roughly
| 14-18th of july
| Half of it is returned
| Oberon 33, 5221LT,'s-Hertogenbosch (=Den Bosch)
| Hack42, Cruquiusweg 3, 6827 BL Arnhem
| [[User:Stitch]]
| [[User:Stitch]]
| Let me know when you drive...
|-
| [[User:Moem]]
| Deco
| The gate + wood for signs, various lighting, 3 lecterns, 1 large water tank
| 10 rolling carts
| 1 pallet (water tank)
| 15th is fine
| About half is returned, we don't care when
| Wijchen (Nieuweweg 197f)
| Wijchen (Nieuweweg 197f)
| [[User:Moem]] Phone +31 6 20889877
| [[User:Moem]] Phone +31 6 20889877
| Let me know when and I'll be there
|-
| [[User:Netsmurf]]
| Party/Horeca
| Tosters/fryers/washing machine/dryer/etc
| ?
| 3 or 4
| 14-18 July
| 28-29 July
| Akersloot
| Akersloot
| [[User:Netsmurf]]
| [[User:Netsmurf]]
| Keys are needed to access location
|-
| [[User:Netsmurf]]
| Merchandizing
| Collect Merchandize from Supplier
| ?
| 3 or 4
| 19-20 July
| Not needed
| Diemen
| [[User:Netsmurf]]
| [[User:Netsmurf]]
| Appointment with suplier needs to be made
|-
| [[User:Netsmurf]]
| Early Kartent Run
| Collect a few Kartents from Supplier
| ?
| 1 but large
| 14 July
| Not needed
| Amsterdam
| [[User:Netsmurf]]
| [[User:Netsmurf]]
| Appointment with suplier needs to be made
|-
| [[User:Polyfloyd]]
| Deco
| Light fixtures, needed by other teams so they do not trip
| 8 boxes of 122x20x35cm and power cords
| 1-ish
| <=15 July
| late teardown
| Bitlair, Amersfoort
| Preferrably none, give away
| [[User:Polyfloyd]]
| [[User:Polyfloyd]]
| Any Bitlair participant can provide access
|-
| [[User:Polyfloyd]]
| Deco
| Light fixtures, the large ones
| 7 units of ~160x20x15cm
| _
| early build up
| late teardown
| Bitlair, Amersfoort
| Preferrably none, give away
| [[User:Polyfloyd]]
| [[User:Polyfloyd]]
| Any Bitlair participant can provide access
|-
| [[User:Polyfloyd]]
| Deco
| Crystal Obelisk decoration
| 16 units of 140x32x32cm and a box of pedestals
| 1-ish, the units can be stacked but nothing else can be stacked on top
| Day -4 to Day -1
| late teardown
| Bitlair, Amersfoort
| Polyfloyd's home near Amersfoort
| [[User:Polyfloyd]]
| [[User:Polyfloyd]]
| Any Bitlair participant can provide access to pickup location
|-
| [[User:F0x]]
| Warehouse
| CC containers
| Large
| Not palletizable
| 15 july<br>time tbd; see last column
| 28-29 july
| Zeewolde
| Zeewolde
| [[User:F0x]]
| [[User:Peetz0r]]
| Truck preferably leaves the moment the LHQ portacabins arrive; the time at which this happens will probably not be known in advance
|-
| [[User:F0x]]
| Warehouse
| Warehouse inventory
| Unknown, but quite a lot, (almost) empty van recommended
| not on pallets
| 15 july<br>
| 29 july
| RevSpace, Leidschendam
| RevSpace, Leidschendam
| [[User:F0x]]
| [[User:Peetz0r]]
| Any RevSpace participant can provide access to pickup location.<br>During buildup, the offsite truck preferably leaves for RevSpace right after dropping off the CC containers
|-
| [[User:Sebastius]]
| Heaven
| Heaven stuff
| disassembled signs (200kg of metal), some crates with stuff.
| 2
| 15 july
| 29 july
| RevSpace, Leidschendam
| RevSpace, Leidschendam
| [[User:Sebastius]]
| [[User:SynQ]]
| Any RevSpace participant can provide access to pickup location
|-
| [[User:AK47]]
| NOC
| NOC equipment/cabling/etc
| Various flightcases/spools/etc (1 or 2 Sprinters full)
| ±10 (1 or 2 Sprinters full)
| Saturday July 16th
| Wednesday July 28th or Thursday July 29th
| EventInfra, Bitlair, Computerweg 20a, Amersfoort
| EventInfra, Bitlair, Computerweg 20a, Amersfoort
| [[User:AK47]]
| [[User:AK47]]
| EventInfra keyholder needs to be present
|-
| [[User:Hoxolotl]]
| Deco
| Aluminium trusses and boxes of parts, bycycle and bycycle trailer for use on terrain
| trusses of 20x20cm with lengths up to 220cm see list on deco page dragon project https://wiki.mch2022.org/Dragon. bycycle, small bycycle trailer (pallet-size ish). 4 big boxes of electronics, 1 crate. a pile (60) of empty small samla boxes.
| 4-ish
| 14 or 15 july
| late teardown
| Hoxolotl Basement, TkkrLab both in Enschede
| Return trusses and bycycle to basement, other stuff TBD. Be warned Hoxolotl is NOT available the 29th July
| [[User:Hoxolotl]]
| [[User:Hoxolotl]]
| Contact Hoxolotl
|-
| [[User:Pwuts]]
| Badge
| Badges + related materials
| 3 roll containers worth of badges + 1 partially filled with related materials. We do not need the roll containers at the event, so they can be left @ Bitlair.
| 2 if palletized
| 18-20 July
| Probably not needed
| Bitlair, Amersfoort
| -
| [[User:Pwuts]]
| TBD
| Roll containers with badges are in locked Eventinfra storage @ Bitlair, 2 downstairs + 1 upstairs, so coordination with someone with a key is required for pickup. All other stuff is on a roll container in the lounge @ Bitlair. Badges go to logistics warehouse, other stuff to badge tent.
|-
| [[User:denz]]
| Horeca/Bar
| 40 kratten bier
| 1 pallet
| 1 pallet
| 20 july
| teardown
| Nijmegen
| Nijmegen
| [[User:denz]]
| [[User:denz]]
| Contact denz
|-
| [[User:whizzi]]
| RetroSquare
| 2 rolcontainers retro hardware
| 2 rolcontainers
| 2 rolcontainers
| Any Time
| Any Time
| Helmond
| Helmond
| [[User:whizzi]]
| [[User:whizzi]]
| Contact Whizzi
|-
|}

Template:Village

2022-07-11T10:38:18Z

Juerd: attempt to make sorting of village list case insensitive

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Village:Still Hacking Anyway

2022-07-08T22:07:57Z

Juerd:

{{Village
|Has name=Still Hacking Anyway
|Has contact=Sebastius
|Has description=Friends from (mainly) some Dutch hackerspaces
|Provides session location=No
|Location=52.282, 5.52851
|Has orga contact=bas@mch2022.org
|On site orga contact=Sebastius
|Village frab=No
|Village content space=No
|Village citizen count=15
|Village Needs power=Large Village (32A CEE 400V)
|Village size needed=100
|Village hacktents num=0
|Village brings big stuff=No
|Village Special Vehicle=No
|Village planning notes=We're a group of friends, mostly orga/crew for the event. We'd like a somewhat quiet-ish spot and available from early buildup to late teardown.
}}
We're a group of friends, mostly orga/crew for the event, partying all over the place, sleeping on the quiet field :)

User:Juerd

2022-07-08T21:53:02Z

Juerd:

Ticket Exchange

2022-07-08T12:32:18Z

Juerd:

Parcel deliveries

2022-07-04T15:32:12Z

Juerd:

Supermarket

2022-06-27T17:35:45Z

Juerd:

For the first time, there will be a supermarket during the MCH. Our range will consist of common supplies, from fresh bread rolls in the morning to something delicious with a drink.
But also for daily care, games, tent pegs, ice cream, etc.

Just come and have a look!

For special wishes or questions, mail to campingstore@live.nl

Opening hours:
{|class=wikitable
| July 21 || 18:00 - 20:00
|-
| July 22-26 || 08:30 - 12:30<br>16:00 - 20:00
|-
| July 27 || 08:30 - 11:00
|}

We wish you all a pleasant stay.

{{MapObject|Handle = 0x19A8C}}

Volunteering Guide

2022-06-26T22:31:41Z

Juerd:

[[File:May contain volunteers.png|frameless|right|Warning: May contain volunteers]]

<div style="border: 1ex solid #491d88; background: #fec859; color: #331a38; padding: 1em; width: 60%; font-size: 120%; margin: 1em">
<p>This page mostly describes how to become part of the orga-nization.
<p>Just want to do one (or more) Angel shift? Sign up at https://angel.mch2022.org/
</div>

{{VolunteeringHeader}}
<div style="width: 800px">
Welcome to the MCH volunteering page. This page has the goal to make it easy to understand MCH and start contributing to it. You'll find information on why this event exists, how it is organized, how decisions are made, and how you can contribute.

== Why is there an MCH2022? ==
Ultimately MCH wants to share knowledge about hacking with the world. This helps improve the world by making technology accessible, sharable, and understandable. We believe that sharing this knowledge creates a better world: whatever this knowledge entails. From creative use to technology to actual creation and philosophy. Therefore the range of knowledge and programmed content is very broad, but always leans towards technology and systems.

People that subscribe to this goal found that this can be done in various ways, but the ultimate would be to create a temporary outdoor physical utopia. Also known as a "hacker camp". These are organized since 1993.

MCH can be described as two things:

# a physical event where people that like hacking / having a deep passion for technology meet and elevate each other.
# a place where knowledge is presented on stages and archived on the internet for anyone to see, use and access.

== How is MCH2022 organized? ==
[[image:organizational_structure.png|thumb|right|300px|Teams interact with each other and form a cloud communication.]]
MCH is organized in various ways. Most importantly it is organized by volunteers who assemble in groups about a specific subject. Legally MCH is organized by the IFCAT foundation: it performs bureaucratic work on request of the organization. The foundation has handed off all operational decisions to volunteers / teams: aka (to be) experts.

=== Organizational Concepts ===
[[image:team_structure.png|thumb|right|300px|A team and its ingredients.]]

MCH2022 is a fully volunteer-driven event. But where do you start volunteering? Knowing what the structure looks like might help.

A simple view of MCH yields the following six key concepts:

* '''Roles''': description of responsibilities. It is a description of 'what' the team should accomplish, it does not state 'how' something needs to be done. For example: the 'Deco' role states "make the whole event pretty" and "impress visitors with a memorable atmosphere". A decent list of roles can be found here: [[roles]].
* '''Teams''': a group of people that are (or want to become) experts on a certain subject. Some teams are established and also help on other events such as CCC and EMF. Others are new or unique to MCH such as the Safe Harbour. In the end, teams make decisions based on expertise and intent to create a great event. A list of teams can be found here: [[teams]]. A team fulfills one or more roles and consists of many team members.
* '''Team member''': Somebody that is actively doing stuff for a team.
* '''First Contacts''': How a team is organized internally, what communication structure they choose, and how they meet is theirs to decide. To lower the barrier for new volunteers, teams share several contact details such as a first-line contact. A team has one or more first-line contacts.
* '''Angel''': Angels are on-event volunteers that perform mostly designed tasks. They do not need to be fully invested in what a team does or how the organization works. An angel usually works in a predefined timeslot (called a shift). A team can have a need for many angels.
* '''Wiki''': The wiki is the central information repository for organizing MCH2022. The wiki can be reached at wiki.mch2022.org. You'll find a volunteering section as well as many pages aimed at visiting.
* '''Projectleiding''': A team that tracks the health and progress of the entire organization. One team member from the projectleiding(PL) team is connected to any other team to assist the team: navigating the organization, bootstrapping, legal, financial. As the organization matures, the activities of PL dwindle. PL does not determine the color of the bikeshed, MCH is organized team first.
* '''Orga''': a simplification that points to the group of people that organizes this event: angels and/or team members.

== How to join the crew ==

If you want to join a specific [[teams|team]], you can just talk to the people who are already on the team. For many teams, there will be a listed email address. Just send a mail, it doesn't have to be a very long one, something like "Hi, I'd like to join this team; how can I help?" is enough. Please note that some teams might already be fully staffed, and are not looking for more volunteers.

Some teams haven't really started yet, and as such, their team page is pretty empty. Don't let that stop you, because these are the teams that need your help the most. If there's no team email address, that means we're looking for someone to "bootstrap" the team into existence. The list of [[vacancies]] is a good starting point for those who want to take the lead in getting a team up and running. If you are not sure how to start your desired team you can always contact the assigned member from the [[Team:Projectleiding]].

If you want to join the crew, and don't know which team would suit you, then you can talk to someone from [[Team:Volunteers]] and they can help you with that. You can email '''volunteering@mch2022.org'''. If you don't know what you want to do, feel free to describe what you're good at, so we can find a good match. Or you can join our general orga meetings or any of the [[IRC|IRC channels]] and ask around. Another option is to look at the [[Roles]] page to see which of the responsibilities you find attractive, and then figure out which team does that role.

=== General communication channels ===

If you want to say hi and meet us, there are many opportunities:

* [[IRC]], the old and reliable chat protocol
* [[Mailing lists]], for somewhat more structured communication
* [[Orga meetings]], both physical and [[Mumble|online]]

The wiki itself (that is, the website you're looking at) is also used for communication. Signing up for teams and meetings is done on the wiki, and sometimes there's a discussion about the contents of pages. Please [[Special:CreateAccount|create an account]] to unlock the page editing feature.

=== Team-specific communication channels ===

Go to the [[Teams]] page, and then the team specific page, to find out where the team members reside.

== How many pieces?  ==

The MCH2022 organization is huge and has numerous moving pieces. It's hard to describe everything in detail, especially because we always fail to come up with good definitions. We're constantly figuring things out and we often find that clear boundaries are impossible in a chaotic organization like ours. When you talk to different people, they'll probably have a different idea of how it works. And they're probably both right, because there are so many valid perspectives. But we can come up with some basic explanations that should give some insight into the "structure" of the organization.

There are two kinds of volunteers, and both are vitally important:

; Angels: visitors who, at the event, sign up to do shifts. This can be anything from bartending to driving a luggage shuttle golf cart, helping with preparing the volunteer food, etcetera. Generally, these tasks are prepared by the orga and come with instructions, so you can just start doing them when you arrive on the job. You can even decide to become an angel at the event itself.
; Orga: the term "orga" has become really broad, and now includes anyone who is involved with the preparations of the event. If you join the crew long before the event starts, then you're orga.

Within the orga, some people maintain direct contact with [[Team:Projectleiding]]. These so-called "first-line contacts", or "team leads", are responsible for a team's budget and decision making. Every team does one or multiple [[roles]]. A role is a collection of responsibilities. This allows us to think of the organization in a more abstract manner.

== How we work ==

Teams are very autonomous, and it's up to the team to decide how they organize themselves. Because of that, different teams may have very different ways of reaching decisions.

There's another page that goes into this subject in more detail: [[way of working]].

== What we have to offer ==

Volunteering for MCH2022 is an unpaid job. Because of the way our event is designed, we're counting on everyone to help out, and that's why we can have affordable tickets instead of expensive corporate entrance fees. This does indeed mean that crew members still have to buy a ticket to be part of the event. (If you can't afford a ticket, there are options for that, but that's not related to whether you're a volunteer.) All volunteers are part of the crew because they want to be part of this organization, not for any financial gains.

We do our best to take care of our fellow crew members. When joining the orga community, or when signing up for angel shifts, you become very important to us, and we want you to feel welcome. We have a crew area where you can hang out and get some rest. Good food is served exclusively for crew members, including angels who get food vouchers for doing a certain amount of shifts. And of course, we'll also hand out physical tokens of appreciation, such as crew t-shirts.

For orga, there are orga meetings and field days, where we shape the details of the upcoming event. These meetings are equal parts hard work and socializing/networking/partying.

== Other forms of participation ==

Being part of the crew is great, but there are more different ways to participate! [[Villages]] are sub-events organized by visitors themselves. Just to be clear: when we talk about crew and orga, we're talking about the main event, not the village crews. If you want to learn more about the villages and how they organize themselves, have a look at their respective pages.

=== Wiki gardening ===

Are you good with wikis? We always need help structuring the information, correcting spelling and grammar, and making things look nicer with appropriate images and such. If you want to help out with these things, please [[Special:CreateAccount|create an account]] and edit away :)

For example, this page has a lot of text and a single image. It's amazing you made it this far!

</div>

MediaWiki:Sidebar

2022-06-26T20:30:19Z

Juerd:

MediaWiki:Sidebar

2022-06-26T20:29:52Z

Juerd:

Angels

2022-06-26T20:26:50Z

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#REDIRECT [[Volunteering Guide]]

Angels

2022-06-26T20:26:42Z

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#REDIRECT [[Volunteering Guid]]

Angels

2022-06-26T20:26:18Z

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#REDIRECT [[Volunteering]]

Volunteering Guide

2022-06-26T20:25:29Z

Juerd:

[[File:May contain volunteers.png|frameless|right|Warning: May contain volunteers]]

<div style="border: 3px solid purple; background: yellow; color: black; padding: 1em; width: 60%; font-size: 120%; margin: 1em">
<p>This page mostly describes how to become part of the orga-nization.
<p>Just want to do one (or more) Angel shift? Sign up at https://angel.mch2022.org/
</div>

{{VolunteeringHeader}}
<div style="width: 800px">
Welcome to the MCH volunteering page. This page has the goal to make it easy to understand MCH and start contributing to it. You'll find information on why this event exists, how it is organized, how decisions are made, and how you can contribute.

== Why is there an MCH2022? ==
Ultimately MCH wants to share knowledge about hacking with the world. This helps improve the world by making technology accessible, sharable, and understandable. We believe that sharing this knowledge creates a better world: whatever this knowledge entails. From creative use to technology to actual creation and philosophy. Therefore the range of knowledge and programmed content is very broad, but always leans towards technology and systems.

People that subscribe to this goal found that this can be done in various ways, but the ultimate would be to create a temporary outdoor physical utopia. Also known as a "hacker camp". These are organized since 1993.

MCH can be described as two things:

# a physical event where people that like hacking / having a deep passion for technology meet and elevate each other.
# a place where knowledge is presented on stages and archived on the internet for anyone to see, use and access.

== How is MCH2022 organized? ==
[[image:organizational_structure.png|thumb|right|300px|Teams interact with each other and form a cloud communication.]]
MCH is organized in various ways. Most importantly it is organized by volunteers who assemble in groups about a specific subject. Legally MCH is organized by the IFCAT foundation: it performs bureaucratic work on request of the organization. The foundation has handed off all operational decisions to volunteers / teams: aka (to be) experts.

=== Organizational Concepts ===
[[image:team_structure.png|thumb|right|300px|A team and its ingredients.]]

MCH2022 is a fully volunteer-driven event. But where do you start volunteering? Knowing what the structure looks like might help.

A simple view of MCH yields the following six key concepts:

* '''Roles''': description of responsibilities. It is a description of 'what' the team should accomplish, it does not state 'how' something needs to be done. For example: the 'Deco' role states "make the whole event pretty" and "impress visitors with a memorable atmosphere". A decent list of roles can be found here: [[roles]].
* '''Teams''': a group of people that are (or want to become) experts on a certain subject. Some teams are established and also help on other events such as CCC and EMF. Others are new or unique to MCH such as the Safe Harbour. In the end, teams make decisions based on expertise and intent to create a great event. A list of teams can be found here: [[teams]]. A team fulfills one or more roles and consists of many team members.
* '''Team member''': Somebody that is actively doing stuff for a team.
* '''First Contacts''': How a team is organized internally, what communication structure they choose, and how they meet is theirs to decide. To lower the barrier for new volunteers, teams share several contact details such as a first-line contact. A team has one or more first-line contacts.
* '''Angel''': Angels are on-event volunteers that perform mostly designed tasks. They do not need to be fully invested in what a team does or how the organization works. An angel usually works in a predefined timeslot (called a shift). A team can have a need for many angels.
* '''Wiki''': The wiki is the central information repository for organizing MCH2022. The wiki can be reached at wiki.mch2022.org. You'll find a volunteering section as well as many pages aimed at visiting.
* '''Projectleiding''': A team that tracks the health and progress of the entire organization. One team member from the projectleiding(PL) team is connected to any other team to assist the team: navigating the organization, bootstrapping, legal, financial. As the organization matures, the activities of PL dwindle. PL does not determine the color of the bikeshed, MCH is organized team first.
* '''Orga''': a simplification that points to the group of people that organizes this event: angels and/or team members.

== How to join the crew ==

If you want to join a specific [[teams|team]], you can just talk to the people who are already on the team. For many teams, there will be a listed email address. Just send a mail, it doesn't have to be a very long one, something like "Hi, I'd like to join this team; how can I help?" is enough. Please note that some teams might already be fully staffed, and are not looking for more volunteers.

Some teams haven't really started yet, and as such, their team page is pretty empty. Don't let that stop you, because these are the teams that need your help the most. If there's no team email address, that means we're looking for someone to "bootstrap" the team into existence. The list of [[vacancies]] is a good starting point for those who want to take the lead in getting a team up and running. If you are not sure how to start your desired team you can always contact the assigned member from the [[Team:Projectleiding]].

If you want to join the crew, and don't know which team would suit you, then you can talk to someone from [[Team:Volunteers]] and they can help you with that. You can email '''volunteering@mch2022.org'''. If you don't know what you want to do, feel free to describe what you're good at, so we can find a good match. Or you can join our general orga meetings or any of the [[IRC|IRC channels]] and ask around. Another option is to look at the [[Roles]] page to see which of the responsibilities you find attractive, and then figure out which team does that role.

=== General communication channels ===

If you want to say hi and meet us, there are many opportunities:

* [[IRC]], the old and reliable chat protocol
* [[Mailing lists]], for somewhat more structured communication
* [[Orga meetings]], both physical and [[Mumble|online]]

The wiki itself (that is, the website you're looking at) is also used for communication. Signing up for teams and meetings is done on the wiki, and sometimes there's a discussion about the contents of pages. Please [[Special:CreateAccount|create an account]] to unlock the page editing feature.

=== Team-specific communication channels ===

Go to the [[Teams]] page, and then the team specific page, to find out where the team members reside.

== How many pieces?  ==

The MCH2022 organization is huge and has numerous moving pieces. It's hard to describe everything in detail, especially because we always fail to come up with good definitions. We're constantly figuring things out and we often find that clear boundaries are impossible in a chaotic organization like ours. When you talk to different people, they'll probably have a different idea of how it works. And they're probably both right, because there are so many valid perspectives. But we can come up with some basic explanations that should give some insight into the "structure" of the organization.

There are two kinds of volunteers, and both are vitally important:

; Angels: visitors who, at the event, sign up to do shifts. This can be anything from bartending to driving a luggage shuttle golf cart, helping with preparing the volunteer food, etcetera. Generally, these tasks are prepared by the orga and come with instructions, so you can just start doing them when you arrive on the job. You can even decide to become an angel at the event itself.
; Orga: the term "orga" has become really broad, and now includes anyone who is involved with the preparations of the event. If you join the crew long before the event starts, then you're orga.

Within the orga, some people maintain direct contact with [[Team:Projectleiding]]. These so-called "first-line contacts", or "team leads", are responsible for a team's budget and decision making. Every team does one or multiple [[roles]]. A role is a collection of responsibilities. This allows us to think of the organization in a more abstract manner.

== How we work ==

Teams are very autonomous, and it's up to the team to decide how they organize themselves. Because of that, different teams may have very different ways of reaching decisions.

There's another page that goes into this subject in more detail: [[way of working]].

== What we have to offer ==

Volunteering for MCH2022 is an unpaid job. Because of the way our event is designed, we're counting on everyone to help out, and that's why we can have affordable tickets instead of expensive corporate entrance fees. This does indeed mean that crew members still have to buy a ticket to be part of the event. (If you can't afford a ticket, there are options for that, but that's not related to whether you're a volunteer.) All volunteers are part of the crew because they want to be part of this organization, not for any financial gains.

We do our best to take care of our fellow crew members. When joining the orga community, or when signing up for angel shifts, you become very important to us, and we want you to feel welcome. We have a crew area where you can hang out and get some rest. Good food is served exclusively for crew members, including angels who get food vouchers for doing a certain amount of shifts. And of course, we'll also hand out physical tokens of appreciation, such as crew t-shirts.

For orga, there are orga meetings and field days, where we shape the details of the upcoming event. These meetings are equal parts hard work and socializing/networking/partying.

== Other forms of participation ==

Being part of the crew is great, but there are more different ways to participate! [[Villages]] are sub-events organized by visitors themselves. Just to be clear: when we talk about crew and orga, we're talking about the main event, not the village crews. If you want to learn more about the villages and how they organize themselves, have a look at their respective pages.

=== Wiki gardening ===

Are you good with wikis? We always need help structuring the information, correcting spelling and grammar, and making things look nicer with appropriate images and such. If you want to help out with these things, please [[Special:CreateAccount|create an account]] and edit away :)

For example, this page has a lot of text and a single image. It's amazing you made it this far!

</div>

Team:Off-site transportation

2022-06-19T16:20:04Z

Juerd: /* Requests */

{{Team
|Lead=User:Quux
|Description=If necessary available to transport equipment to campsite.
If necessary, since at the last event transports like these were just handled by villages themselves.
If there is no need for this service this team will not be activated, however if there is a need for this, one or more small trucks will be rented and can be used to transport needed equipment and materials to and from the campsite when the buildup starts and possibly from the campsite during teardown.
|Exclusive team=No
|team_is_essential_to_event=Substance
|team_has_contact_info=No
|team_has_info_on_wiki=No
|team_has_planned_meetings=No
|team_has_enough_people=Yes
|team_has_drafted_budget=No
|team_has_informed_volunteer_team=No
|Projectleiding=User:Stitch
}}
==Team Members==

{{TeamMemberEntry|User:MartinK}}
{{TeamMemberEntry|User:Xenomatrix}}
{{TeamMemberEntry|User:Quux}}
{{TeamMemberEntry|User:Vynka}}
==About==

To reduce the total amount of kilometers to be driven and the amount of vehicles rented by the organization. This team provides off-site transport to and from the event for other orga teams. We have 'kavbusjes with lifting platform' so pallets and carts can be transported.

== Volunteer drivers and copilots needed ==

Want to go on a roadtrip through the Netherlands before or after the event and help make it happen without missing any of the main action? Are you an experienced, reasonable and defensive driver that can safely drive a loaded truck with a car license? Or a motivated copilot to handle navigation and communication while on the road? Or a team of both? We'd love to have you!

If you want to help out please contact [[User:Stitch]] or anybody else from this team. We need your help before and after the event. You don't have to be there during the whole buildup or teardown, you can do just one but also multiple tours, depending on when you have time.

==Requesting transport==

* If your payload is small enough to be transported in a private car that is driving anyway and has space, prefer this option.
* Driving around in a truck is expensive. If you need something transported from far away (e.g. outside the Netherlands), a private courier (shipping) is more economical.
* Every pickup location costs additional time and our volunteers' time is precious. Try batching your payload with other teams if possible (e.g. at a Hackerspace). If your item is not too big and <30kg, consider [https://www.postnl.nl/tarieven/tarieven-pakketten/ just mailing it] at a nearby post office.
* We operate efficiently by batching requests. Please be as flexible as possible with regards to pickup and drop-off dates and times.
* To make pickup and return efficient, please have a person waiting for our drivers. We will call them some time before to make sure they didn't forget about us. Alternatively, have detailed pickup instructions and give us keys before the event.



*'''Requestee'''
*'''Team:'''
*'''Contact:''' Name, e-mail, phone, irc, all the things. If anything's good or wrong, you'll know :)
*'''Stuff:''' What you need transported
*'''Fragile:''' True/false
*'''Estimated size:''' (length*width*height) Please try to fit stuff on wrapped pallets, having nothing stick out on the sides, height up to 2.20m
*'''Pallets:''' Amount of pallets
*'''Pickup date range:''' DD-MM-YYYY HH:mm (if TBD, guess)
*'''Return date range:''' DD-MM-YYYY HH:mm (^^)
*'''Pickup location:''' City, street, number
*'''Return location:''' City, street, number
*'''Pickup/return instruction''' Point of contact with phone number we can call half an hour before rendezvous. Handling, pickup/return instructions

== Requests ==

Expecting: deco, badges, noc equipment, warehouse, safety, productiehuis, family village, merch and more.

{| class="wikitable sortable"
! Requestee
! Team
! What
! Size
! N Pallets
! Pickup Date Range
! Return Date Range
! Pickup Location
! Return Location
! Contact of Requester
! Contact on Site (possibly private)
! Instructions

|-
| [[User:Stitch|Stitch]] (06 1342 5622)
| Projectleiding
| All printed MCH materials + Prints for deco team
| 4 carts
| 4
| Preferably over the weekend
| Nothing is returned
| 's-Hertogenbosch (=Den Bosch)
| -
| [[User:Stitch]]
| [[User:Stitch]]
| Let me know when you drive...
|-
| [[User:Moem]]
| Deco
| The gate + wood for signs
| ?
| 1 or 2
| Early in buildup week
| Nothing is returned
| Wijchen
| Nothing is returned
| [[User:Moem]]
| [[User:Moem]]
| These are mostly flat materials
|-
| [[User:Netsmurf]]
| Party/Horeca
| Tosters/fryers/washing machine/dryer/etc
| ?
| 3 or 4
| 14-18 July
| 28-29 July
| Akersloot
| Akersloot
| [[User:Netsmurf]]
| [[User:Netsmurf]]
| Keys are needed to access location
|-
| [[User:Polyfloyd]]
| Deco
| Light fixtures, needed by other teams so they do not trip
| 8 boxes of 122x20x35cm and power cords
| 1-ish
| early build up
| late teardown
| Bitlair, Amersfoort
| Preferrably none, give away
| [[User:Polyfloyd]]
| [[User:Polyfloyd]]
| Any Bitlair participant can provide access
|-
| [[User:Polyfloyd]]
| Deco
| Light fixtures, the large ones
| 7 units of ~160x20x15cm
| _
| early build up
| late teardown
| Bitlair, Amersfoort
| Preferrably none, give away
| [[User:Polyfloyd]]
| [[User:Polyfloyd]]
| Any Bitlair participant can provide access
|-
| [[User:Polyfloyd]]
| Deco
| Crystal Obelisk decoration
| 16 units of 140x32x32cm and a box of pedestals
| 1-ish, the units can be stacked but nothing else can be stacked on top
| Day -4 to Day -1
| late teardown
| Bitlair, Amersfoort
| Polyfloyd's home near Amersfoort
| [[User:Polyfloyd]]
| [[User:Polyfloyd]]
| Any Bitlair participant can provide access to pickup location
|-
| [[User:F0x]]
| Warehouse
| CC containers
| Large
| Not palletizable
| 15 july<br>time tbd; see last column
| 28-29 july
| Zeewolde
| Zeewolde
| [[User:F0x]]
| [[User:Peetz0r]]
| Truck preferably leaves the moment the LHQ portacabins arrive; the time at which this happens will probably not be known in advance
|-
| [[User:F0x]]
| Warehouse
| Warehouse inventory
| Unknown, but quite a lot
| 2? 3?
| 15 july<br>
| 29 july
| RevSpace, Leidschendam
| RevSpace, Leidschendam
| [[User:F0x]]
| [[User:Peetz0r]]
| Any RevSpace participant can provide access to pickup location.<br>During buildup, the offsite truck preferably leaves for RevSpace right after dropping off the CC containers
|-
| [[User:Sebastius]]
| Heaven
| Heaven stuff
| disassembled signs (200kg of metal), some crates with stuff.
| 2
| 15 july
| 29 july
| RevSpace, Leidschendam
| RevSpace, Leidschendam
| [[User:Sebastius]]
| [[User:SynQ]]
| Any RevSpace participant can provide access to pickup location
|-
| [[User:AK47]]
| NOC
| NOC equipment/cabling/etc
| Various flightcases/spools/etc (1 or 2 Sprinters full)
| ±10 (1 or 2 Sprinters full)
| Friday July 15th or Saturday July 16th
| Wednesday July 28th or Thursday July 29th
| EventInfra, Bitlair, Computerweg 20a, Amersfoort
| EventInfra, Bitlair, Computerweg 20a, Amersfoort
| [[User:AK47]]
| [[User:AK47]]
| EventInfra keyholder needs to be present
|-
| [[User:AK47]]
| NOC
| Server flightcase
| Server flightcase 95x50x63cm 220kg --> loading ramp needed!
| 1
| Friday July 15th or earlier
| Wednesday July 28th or Thursday July 29th
| Dusseldorf
| Dusseldorf
| [[User:AK47]]
| [[User:AK47]]
|-
| [[User:Hoxolotl]]
| Deco
| Aluminium trusses and boxes of parts, bycycle and bycycle trailer for use on terrain
| trusses of 20x20cm with lengths up to 220cm see list on deco page dragon project https://wiki.mch2022.org/Dragon. bycycle, small bycycle trailer (pallet-size ish). 4 big boxes of electronics, 1 crate. a pile (60) of empty small samla boxes.
| 4-ish
| 14 or 15 july
| late teardown
| Hoxolotl Basement, TkkrLab both in Enschede
| Return trusses and bycycle to basement, other stuff TBD. Be warned Hoxolotl is NOT available the 29th July
| [[User:Hoxolotl]]
| [[User:Hoxolotl]]
| Contact Hoxolotl
|-
|}

Team:Off-site transportation

2022-06-19T16:16:56Z

Juerd: /* Requests */

{{Team
|Lead=User:Quux
|Description=If necessary available to transport equipment to campsite.
If necessary, since at the last event transports like these were just handled by villages themselves.
If there is no need for this service this team will not be activated, however if there is a need for this, one or more small trucks will be rented and can be used to transport needed equipment and materials to and from the campsite when the buildup starts and possibly from the campsite during teardown.
|Exclusive team=No
|team_is_essential_to_event=Substance
|team_has_contact_info=No
|team_has_info_on_wiki=No
|team_has_planned_meetings=No
|team_has_enough_people=Yes
|team_has_drafted_budget=No
|team_has_informed_volunteer_team=No
|Projectleiding=User:Stitch
}}
==Team Members==

{{TeamMemberEntry|User:MartinK}}
{{TeamMemberEntry|User:Xenomatrix}}
{{TeamMemberEntry|User:Quux}}
{{TeamMemberEntry|User:Vynka}}
==About==

To reduce the total amount of kilometers to be driven and the amount of vehicles rented by the organization. This team provides off-site transport to and from the event for other orga teams. We have 'kavbusjes with lifting platform' so pallets and carts can be transported.

== Volunteer drivers and copilots needed ==

Want to go on a roadtrip through the Netherlands before or after the event and help make it happen without missing any of the main action? Are you an experienced, reasonable and defensive driver that can safely drive a loaded truck with a car license? Or a motivated copilot to handle navigation and communication while on the road? Or a team of both? We'd love to have you!

If you want to help out please contact [[User:Stitch]] or anybody else from this team. We need your help before and after the event. You don't have to be there during the whole buildup or teardown, you can do just one but also multiple tours, depending on when you have time.

==Requesting transport==

* If your payload is small enough to be transported in a private car that is driving anyway and has space, prefer this option.
* Driving around in a truck is expensive. If you need something transported from far away (e.g. outside the Netherlands), a private courier (shipping) is more economical.
* Every pickup location costs additional time and our volunteers' time is precious. Try batching your payload with other teams if possible (e.g. at a Hackerspace). If your item is not too big and <30kg, consider [https://www.postnl.nl/tarieven/tarieven-pakketten/ just mailing it] at a nearby post office.
* We operate efficiently by batching requests. Please be as flexible as possible with regards to pickup and drop-off dates and times.
* To make pickup and return efficient, please have a person waiting for our drivers. We will call them some time before to make sure they didn't forget about us. Alternatively, have detailed pickup instructions and give us keys before the event.



*'''Requestee'''
*'''Team:'''
*'''Contact:''' Name, e-mail, phone, irc, all the things. If anything's good or wrong, you'll know :)
*'''Stuff:''' What you need transported
*'''Fragile:''' True/false
*'''Estimated size:''' (length*width*height) Please try to fit stuff on wrapped pallets, having nothing stick out on the sides, height up to 2.20m
*'''Pallets:''' Amount of pallets
*'''Pickup date range:''' DD-MM-YYYY HH:mm (if TBD, guess)
*'''Return date range:''' DD-MM-YYYY HH:mm (^^)
*'''Pickup location:''' City, street, number
*'''Return location:''' City, street, number
*'''Pickup/return instruction''' Point of contact with phone number we can call half an hour before rendezvous. Handling, pickup/return instructions

== Requests ==

Expecting: deco, badges, noc equipment, warehouse, safety, productiehuis, family village, merch and more.

{| class="wikitable sortable"
! Requestee
! Team
! What
! Size
! N Pallets
! Pickup Date Range
! Return Date Range
! Pickup Location
! Return Location
! Contact of Requester
! Contact on Site (possibly private)
! Instructions

|-
| [[User:Stitch|Stitch]] (06 1342 5622)
| Projectleiding
| All printed MCH materials + Prints for deco team
| 4 carts
| 4
| Preferably over the weekend
| Nothing is returned
| 's-Hertogenbosch (=Den Bosch)
| -
| [[User:Stitch]]
| [[User:Stitch]]
| Let me know when you drive...
|-
| [[User:Moem]]
| Deco
| The gate + wood for signs
| ?
| 1 or 2
| Early in buildup week
| Nothing is returned
| Wijchen
| Nothing is returned
| [[User:Moem]]
| [[User:Moem]]
| These are mostly flat materials
|-
| [[User:Netsmurf]]
| Party/Horeca
| Tosters/fryers/washing machine/dryer/etc
| ?
| 3 or 4
| 14-18 July
| 28-29 July
| Akersloot
| Akersloot
| [[User:Netsmurf]]
| [[User:Netsmurf]]
| Keys are needed to access location
|-
| [[User:Polyfloyd]]
| Deco
| Light fixtures, needed by other teams so they do not trip
| 8 boxes of 122x20x35cm and power cords
| 1-ish
| early build up
| late teardown
| Bitlair, Amersfoort
| Preferrably none, give away
| [[User:Polyfloyd]]
| [[User:Polyfloyd]]
| Any Bitlair participant can provide access
|-
| [[User:Polyfloyd]]
| Deco
| Light fixtures, the large ones
| 7 units of ~160x20x15cm
| _
| early build up
| late teardown
| Bitlair, Amersfoort
| Preferrably none, give away
| [[User:Polyfloyd]]
| [[User:Polyfloyd]]
| Any Bitlair participant can provide access
|-
| [[User:Polyfloyd]]
| Deco
| Crystal Obelisk decoration
| 16 units of 140x32x32cm and a box of pedestals
| 1-ish, the units can be stacked but nothing else can be stacked on top
| Day -4 to Day -1
| late teardown
| Bitlair, Amersfoort
| Polyfloyd's home near Amersfoort
| [[User:Polyfloyd]]
| [[User:Polyfloyd]]
| Any Bitlair participant can provide access to pickup location
|-
| [[User:F0x]]
| Warehouse
| Warehouse inventory
| Unknown, but quite a lot
| 2? 3?
| 15 july
| 29 july
| RevSpace, Leidschendam
| RevSpace, Leidschendam
| [[User:F0x]]
| [[User:Peetz0r]]
| Any RevSpace participant can provide access to pickup location
|-
| [[User:F0x]]
| Warehouse
| Danish carts
| Large
| Not palletizable
| 15 july<br>time tbd; see last column
| 28-29 july
| Zeewolde
| Zeewolde
| [[User:F0x]]
| [[User:Peetz0r]]
| Truck preferably leaves the moment the LHQ portacabins arrive.
|-
| [[User:Sebastius]]
| Heaven
| Heaven stuff
| disassembled signs (200kg of metal), some crates with stuff.
| 2
| 15 july
| 29 july
| RevSpace, Leidschendam
| RevSpace, Leidschendam
| [[User:Sebastius]]
| [[User:SynQ]]
| Any RevSpace participant can provide access to pickup location
|-
| [[User:AK47]]
| NOC
| NOC equipment/cabling/etc
| Various flightcases/spools/etc (1 or 2 Sprinters full)
| ±10 (1 or 2 Sprinters full)
| Friday July 15th or Saturday July 16th
| Wednesday July 28th or Thursday July 29th
| EventInfra, Bitlair, Computerweg 20a, Amersfoort
| EventInfra, Bitlair, Computerweg 20a, Amersfoort
| [[User:AK47]]
| [[User:AK47]]
| EventInfra keyholder needs to be present
|-
| [[User:AK47]]
| NOC
| Server flightcase
| Server flightcase 95x50x63cm 220kg --> loading ramp needed!
| 1
| Friday July 15th or earlier
| Wednesday July 28th or Thursday July 29th
| Dusseldorf
| Dusseldorf
| [[User:AK47]]
| [[User:AK47]]
|-
| [[User:Hoxolotl]]
| Deco
| Aluminium trusses and boxes of parts, bycycle and bycycle trailer for use on terrain
| trusses of 20x20cm with lengths up to 220cm see list on deco page dragon project https://wiki.mch2022.org/Dragon. bycycle, small bycycle trailer (pallet-size ish). 4 big boxes of electronics, 1 crate. a pile (60) of empty small samla boxes.
| 4-ish
| 14 or 15 july
| late teardown
| Hoxolotl Basement, TkkrLab both in Enschede
| Return trusses and bycycle to basement, other stuff TBD. Be warned Hoxolotl is NOT available the 29th July
| [[User:Hoxolotl]]
| [[User:Hoxolotl]]
| Contact Hoxolotl
|-
|}

Facilities

2022-06-09T22:44:51Z

Juerd: /* Power */

Below is a short list of the facilities there will be at MCH2022.
: Highlights of this will be written in the [[Booklet]].
: Team:Info will bug every team to write their stuff here.

== Basic infra before and after the event ==
The terrain has permanent basic facilities: showers, toilets and power.

Using a scale-up approach more facilities will become available as more angels and orga are on the terrain.

Permanent facilities include:

* Toilets, sinks and a shower at 1 location on the quiet field.
* Basic power at 10+ locations - Only for devices not consuming too much power. Do switch when the power generators are on. Schuko is recommended, there are no 16A blue CEE sockets.
* A lot of birds, trees, nature.

The map of the terrain can be seen at https://map.mch2022.org

== Parking ==
If you arrive by car or motorcycle, you cannot drive it onto the terrain. There is a parking lot opposite of the terrain. Follow the signs.
* You need a [https://tickets.mch2022.org ticket] for parking
* The parking lot is closed for newly arriving cars from 00:00 to 6:00, please plan your trip so you arrive well before 00:00 or after 06:00.
* You are not allowed to camp on or near the parking lot
{{MapObject|Handle = 0xDED3}}

== Safety ==
{{MapObject|Handle = 0xD5EA}}
{{MapObject|Handle = 0x14EC2}}
{{MapObject|Handle = 0x14EC5}}
If something goes wrong, when accidents happen...team safety is there for you

We provide:
*First Aid station and the Security tent on the main orga area.
*24/7 support in case of first aid, fire on land and on the water
*an awesome time as a volunteer with us (golf-cart, gator, bikes and free training !)

We ask of you:
* In case of an emergency please contact team Safety, call 2222 on your dect phone to contact our operator or talk to anyone with a handheld radio, state the nature of the emergency and tell us the exact location.
* No Open fire (charcoal bbq, campfires) allowed anywhere on the terrain.
* No black water dumping in any open water (lakes, ponds and harbour)
* When using a boot the skipper is always responsible (please be careful) or ask the harbour authority for assistance or advice.
* Please drink enough water, remember Mate != Water

More to follow somewhere end of may.....

== Venues ==
All official lectures will be recorded and streamed live, unless stated otherwise. After MCH2022, the complete archive of these recordings will be published online at [https://media.ccc.de/c/MCH2022 here].

The official SHA content venues are:
* Lecture tent 🧮 [[Abacus]]: Liskov field
* Lecture tent 🔋 [[Battery]]: Olsen field
* Lecture tent 🔮 [[Clairvoyance]]: Lamarr field
* Workshop tent 🧬 [[DNA]]: Liskov field
* Workshop tent ✉️ [[Envelope]]: Manning field
* Workshop tent ⚙️ [[Gear]]: Hamilton field
* Tardis room: Somewhere on the field.

There are also villages that host the official content:
* t.d.b.

Additionally, several villages have composed content schedules of their own. If your village is presenting lectures and/or workshops, and you want to add these to the listed programme, please contact the Speakerdesk.

== Infodesk ==
The information desk (or info desk) is the first and main place to contact if you have any kind of problem or question. It is located in the portacabin complex and is reachable online via info@mch2022.org or twitter @...tbd

Our friendly crew will try to help you, especially if you:

* need information
* think that the orga crew of the camp should be informed about an incident
* need a train/plane/spaceship ticket printed ASAP and NOW!!!! (if you ask nicely)
* need directions to a another venue off-field
* have a question regarding the organization of the camp
* feel lost and want to know where to get Club Mate to get back in touch with life
* and if we're not busy helping people, we are also nice to have a chat with.

== Angel / volunteer catering and support ==
The MCH2022 event can't happen without volunteers, so the Volunteers team is there to make sure all visitors who want to volunteer can do so and get all the TLC they need.

If you (maybe) want to volunteer register an account at https://angel.mch2022.org/ and once you arrive at the campsite walk over to the volunteer desk at the center of the camp to let us know you're here. There you will receive further instructions about how you can help. No strings attached, you decide how many shifts you want to do. If you do volunteer, however, expect a free and healthy meal, a lot of people who are happy to see you, and a warm and fuzzy feeling on the inside!

We provide:
* The [https://angel.mch2022.org angelsystem] to register as angel and self assignment to shifts
* A place called Heaven with a big tent, and maybe a campfire in the evening where all volunteers and crews can chill out
* '''food and drinks for volunteers and crew, also during buildup and teardown'''
* Distribution of food tokens for volunteers
* Volunteer coordinators to answer questions from volunteers and to make sure all teams get the help they need

== Food and drinks ==

To quench your thirst and hunger anytime, we have three bars and a food court to serve you.

=== Bars ===
{{:Bars}}

=== Food Court ===

* Food Court - Solid stuff
: Location: Hamilton Field
: Opening hours differ by vendor

In the food court, you will find many vendors who will offer a wide array of choice for breakfast, lunch, and dinner.
:➡️ [[food court]]

=== Payment ===

To pay for your food and drinks you can use your payment card, phone or one or more anonymous MCH payment cards (cash to card). The MCH Payment cards can be bought at the info tent at the beginning of the site. Cash left over on your card can be refunded the same way you put cash on it.

== Waste ==
As efficient as hackers get, there are always some bits left over. Fortunately team:Waste has your back! We organize the trash-bins, empty them on a regular basis and get everything away from the field.

We provide:
* about 100 bins scattered throughout MCH2022 to get rid of your 'regular household' trash.
* Arranging the emptying of said bins
* about 20 buckets with sand for dunking your cigarettes
* an awesome time as a volunteer with us (golf-cart!)

We do '''not''' provide:
* Large or hazardous waste removal
* Waste removal service on Chriet Titulaer island

We ask of you:
* Drop trash in bins. Not around the field.
* Please do not dispose of sharp objects in the trash, think of our safety! (package it well if you absolutely need to!)
* Report (using the QR code on the front of the bin) the status of a bin. It's fun, helps us and creates cool stats!
* Take home what you bring to the field. Do not leave your tent, sofa's, projects etc.

== Power ==
The distibution cabinets deployed on the fields can be used to power your stuff. Be kind and share your power with your neighbours. Only use outdoor extension cords (IP44 "splash proof") in the distribution cabinets. Indoor plugs need to be kept dry and shielded from the rain (e.g. in a tent on a raised surface). Use a cable '''with protective earth''', and 1.5 mm² or thicker wires; these cables are usually marked with "3G1.5". For longer cables or if you expect loads higher than just charing your laptop, 2.5 mm² is recommended (marked "3G2.5"). Industrial cables (marked H05RN-F or H07RN-F (neoprene), or H05BQ-F or H07BQ-F (polyurethane)) are the best cables for outdoor use.

Power strips must only be used in dry places only and above ground level, so that no water can reach them.

Use SCHUKO plugs only, we can't facilitate the BLUE 16A CEE plugs! There are some RED 400V/32A 5pol. sockets too for villages and bigger projects. Consult team power at power@lists.mch2022.org if you need to use one of those for big stuff like pizza ovens, you cannot use full power everywhere.

[[File:Yes-no-Power-Socket.png|300px]]
[[File:Stekkers.png|500px]]

'''Some Tips for Travellers, speciality from the US.'''

Voltage is 230V 50 Hz, please check, that your device are ready for the higher voltage, most modern Laptop and phone chargers have a wide range power input, typically from 100-240 Volts. If you insert a 120 volt only device, it will be destroyed in seconds. If you have a 120 Volt only device, you need a voltage converter.

[[File:No-surge-protector.jpg|300px]]

Do '''not''' bring '''120 Volt surge protectors''' power strips (see picture above), they will trip a series of RCD switches and a lot of people will have a power outage. If we find them, we will cut them.

[[File:Dirty bad travel adapter.jpg|300px]]

Use grounded travel adaptors only! Use them only in dry areas. Avoid the fancy multi-country adapters, they are not grounded and bad in quality. If you have only one device, it may be better to buy a european power cord.

Recommended grounded travel adaptors for US, UK, Switzerland and Italy:

[[File:Grounded travel adaptors.jpg|300px]]

<br clear="all">

== Network ==
See [[Network]] for all information. Both wired and wireless network will be available.

== Phone ==
There will be a phone network available on-site. See [[Phone]] for more information.

== Facilities on the Map ==
tbd... flesh out.

== Facilities outside MCH2022 ==

=== Supermarkets ===

{{:Supermarkets}}

=== ATM ===

MCH supports wireless card payments for mostly anything. You can also convert physical money into a temporary payment card (or multiple) instead of coins.

If you still need physicial money, both Zeewolde and Nijkerk have ATM's in the town centers and some of the supermarkets provide one as well. These support Maestro and most other types of cards like EC, [http://www.visa.com/atmlocator/index.jsp#(page:results,params:(query:%2752.32103244354646,5.5358339440917925%27)) Visa], [https://network.americanexpress.com/globalnetwork/atm_locator/en/#search/52.331128/5.540494999999964 American Express] and [https://www.mastercard.us/en-us/consumers/get-support/locate-an-atm.html Mastercard]

=== Outdoor/camping shop ===

Forgot something for your camping needs? [https://www.vanduinkerken.com/ Van Duinkerken] seems to be the closest shop to MCH2022 to fulfill your needs.

=== Hardware stores ===

{{:HardwareStores}}
{| class="wikitable"
|-
| welkoop || Baardmeesweg 30, 3899 XS Zeewolde || 8.5km || Mo-Th 09:00-18:00, Fr 09:00-21:00, Sa 09:00-17:00 || rubber boots, clothes
|}

Facilities

2022-06-09T22:41:04Z

Juerd: /* Power */

Below is a short list of the facilities there will be at MCH2022.
: Highlights of this will be written in the [[Booklet]].
: Team:Info will bug every team to write their stuff here.

== Basic infra before and after the event ==
The terrain has permanent basic facilities: showers, toilets and power.

Using a scale-up approach more facilities will become available as more angels and orga are on the terrain.

Permanent facilities include:

* Toilets, sinks and a shower at 1 location on the quiet field.
* Basic power at 10+ locations - Only for devices not consuming too much power. Do switch when the power generators are on. Schuko is recommended, there are no 16A blue CEE sockets.
* A lot of birds, trees, nature.

The map of the terrain can be seen at https://map.mch2022.org

== Parking ==
If you arrive by car or motorcycle, you cannot drive it onto the terrain. There is a parking lot opposite of the terrain. Follow the signs.
* You need a [https://tickets.mch2022.org ticket] for parking
* The parking lot is closed for newly arriving cars from 00:00 to 6:00, please plan your trip so you arrive well before 00:00 or after 06:00.
* You are not allowed to camp on or near the parking lot
{{MapObject|Handle = 0xDED3}}

== Safety ==
{{MapObject|Handle = 0xD5EA}}
{{MapObject|Handle = 0x14EC2}}
{{MapObject|Handle = 0x14EC5}}
If something goes wrong, when accidents happen...team safety is there for you

We provide:
*First Aid station and the Security tent on the main orga area.
*24/7 support in case of first aid, fire on land and on the water
*an awesome time as a volunteer with us (golf-cart, gator, bikes and free training !)

We ask of you:
* In case of an emergency please contact team Safety, call 2222 on your dect phone to contact our operator or talk to anyone with a handheld radio, state the nature of the emergency and tell us the exact location.
* No Open fire (charcoal bbq, campfires) allowed anywhere on the terrain.
* No black water dumping in any open water (lakes, ponds and harbour)
* When using a boot the skipper is always responsible (please be careful) or ask the harbour authority for assistance or advice.
* Please drink enough water, remember Mate != Water

More to follow somewhere end of may.....

== Venues ==
All official lectures will be recorded and streamed live, unless stated otherwise. After MCH2022, the complete archive of these recordings will be published online at [https://media.ccc.de/c/MCH2022 here].

The official SHA content venues are:
* Lecture tent 🧮 [[Abacus]]: Liskov field
* Lecture tent 🔋 [[Battery]]: Olsen field
* Lecture tent 🔮 [[Clairvoyance]]: Lamarr field
* Workshop tent 🧬 [[DNA]]: Liskov field
* Workshop tent ✉️ [[Envelope]]: Manning field
* Workshop tent ⚙️ [[Gear]]: Hamilton field
* Tardis room: Somewhere on the field.

There are also villages that host the official content:
* t.d.b.

Additionally, several villages have composed content schedules of their own. If your village is presenting lectures and/or workshops, and you want to add these to the listed programme, please contact the Speakerdesk.

== Infodesk ==
The information desk (or info desk) is the first and main place to contact if you have any kind of problem or question. It is located in the portacabin complex and is reachable online via info@mch2022.org or twitter @...tbd

Our friendly crew will try to help you, especially if you:

* need information
* think that the orga crew of the camp should be informed about an incident
* need a train/plane/spaceship ticket printed ASAP and NOW!!!! (if you ask nicely)
* need directions to a another venue off-field
* have a question regarding the organization of the camp
* feel lost and want to know where to get Club Mate to get back in touch with life
* and if we're not busy helping people, we are also nice to have a chat with.

== Angel / volunteer catering and support ==
The MCH2022 event can't happen without volunteers, so the Volunteers team is there to make sure all visitors who want to volunteer can do so and get all the TLC they need.

If you (maybe) want to volunteer register an account at https://angel.mch2022.org/ and once you arrive at the campsite walk over to the volunteer desk at the center of the camp to let us know you're here. There you will receive further instructions about how you can help. No strings attached, you decide how many shifts you want to do. If you do volunteer, however, expect a free and healthy meal, a lot of people who are happy to see you, and a warm and fuzzy feeling on the inside!

We provide:
* The [https://angel.mch2022.org angelsystem] to register as angel and self assignment to shifts
* A place called Heaven with a big tent, and maybe a campfire in the evening where all volunteers and crews can chill out
* '''food and drinks for volunteers and crew, also during buildup and teardown'''
* Distribution of food tokens for volunteers
* Volunteer coordinators to answer questions from volunteers and to make sure all teams get the help they need

== Food and drinks ==

To quench your thirst and hunger anytime, we have three bars and a food court to serve you.

=== Bars ===
{{:Bars}}

=== Food Court ===

* Food Court - Solid stuff
: Location: Hamilton Field
: Opening hours differ by vendor

In the food court, you will find many vendors who will offer a wide array of choice for breakfast, lunch, and dinner.
:➡️ [[food court]]

=== Payment ===

To pay for your food and drinks you can use your payment card, phone or one or more anonymous MCH payment cards (cash to card). The MCH Payment cards can be bought at the info tent at the beginning of the site. Cash left over on your card can be refunded the same way you put cash on it.

== Waste ==
As efficient as hackers get, there are always some bits left over. Fortunately team:Waste has your back! We organize the trash-bins, empty them on a regular basis and get everything away from the field.

We provide:
* about 100 bins scattered throughout MCH2022 to get rid of your 'regular household' trash.
* Arranging the emptying of said bins
* about 20 buckets with sand for dunking your cigarettes
* an awesome time as a volunteer with us (golf-cart!)

We do '''not''' provide:
* Large or hazardous waste removal
* Waste removal service on Chriet Titulaer island

We ask of you:
* Drop trash in bins. Not around the field.
* Please do not dispose of sharp objects in the trash, think of our safety! (package it well if you absolutely need to!)
* Report (using the QR code on the front of the bin) the status of a bin. It's fun, helps us and creates cool stats!
* Take home what you bring to the field. Do not leave your tent, sofa's, projects etc.

== Power ==
The distibution cabinets deployed on the fields can be used to power your stuff. Be kind and share your power with your neighbours. Only use outdoor extension cords (IP44 "splash proof") in the distribution cabinets. Indoor plugs need to be kept dry and shielded from the rain (e.g. in a tent on a raised surface). Use a cable '''with protective earth''', and 1.5 mm² or thicker wires; these cables are usually marked with "3G1.5". For longer cables or if you expect loads higher than just charing your laptop, 2.5 mm² is recommended (marked "3G2.5"). Industrial cables (marked H05RN-F or H07RN-F (neoprene), or H05BQ-F or H07BQ-F (polyurethane)) are the best cables for outdoor use.

Power strips must only be used in dry places only and above ground level, so that no water can reach them.

Use SCHUKO plugs only, we can't facilitate the BLUE 16A CEE plugs! There are some 400V/32A 5pol. sockets too for villages and bigger projects. Consult team power at power@lists.mch2022.org if you need to use one of those for big stuff like pizza ovens, you cannot use full power everywhere.

[[File:Yes-no-Power-Socket.png|300px]]
[[File:Stekkers.png|500px]]

'''Some Tips for Travellers, speciality from the US.'''

Voltage is 230V 50 Hz, please check, that your device are ready for the higher voltage, most modern Laptop and phone chargers have a wide range power input, typically from 100-240 Volts. If you insert a 120 volt only device, it will be destroyed in seconds. If you have a 120 Volt only device, you need a voltage converter.

[[File:No-surge-protector.jpg|300px]]

Do '''not''' bring '''120 Volt surge protectors''' power strips (see picture above), they will trip a series of RCD switches and a lot of people will have a power outage. If we find them, we will cut them.

[[File:Dirty bad travel adapter.jpg|300px]]

Use grounded travel adaptors only! Use them only in dry areas. Avoid the fancy multi-country adapters, they are not grounded and bad in quality. If you have only one device, it may be better to buy a european power cord.

Recommended grounded travel adaptors for US, UK, Switzerland and Italy:

[[File:Grounded travel adaptors.jpg|300px]]

<br clear="all">

== Network ==
See [[Network]] for all information. Both wired and wireless network will be available.

== Phone ==
There will be a phone network available on-site. See [[Phone]] for more information.

== Facilities on the Map ==
tbd... flesh out.

== Facilities outside MCH2022 ==

=== Supermarkets ===

{{:Supermarkets}}

=== ATM ===

MCH supports wireless card payments for mostly anything. You can also convert physical money into a temporary payment card (or multiple) instead of coins.

If you still need physicial money, both Zeewolde and Nijkerk have ATM's in the town centers and some of the supermarkets provide one as well. These support Maestro and most other types of cards like EC, [http://www.visa.com/atmlocator/index.jsp#(page:results,params:(query:%2752.32103244354646,5.5358339440917925%27)) Visa], [https://network.americanexpress.com/globalnetwork/atm_locator/en/#search/52.331128/5.540494999999964 American Express] and [https://www.mastercard.us/en-us/consumers/get-support/locate-an-atm.html Mastercard]

=== Outdoor/camping shop ===

Forgot something for your camping needs? [https://www.vanduinkerken.com/ Van Duinkerken] seems to be the closest shop to MCH2022 to fulfill your needs.

=== Hardware stores ===

{{:HardwareStores}}
{| class="wikitable"
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| welkoop || Baardmeesweg 30, 3899 XS Zeewolde || 8.5km || Mo-Th 09:00-18:00, Fr 09:00-21:00, Sa 09:00-17:00 || rubber boots, clothes
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Facilities

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Below is a short list of the facilities there will be at MCH2022.
: Highlights of this will be written in the [[Booklet]].
: Team:Info will bug every team to write their stuff here.

== Basic infra before and after the event ==
The terrain has permanent basic facilities: showers, toilets and power.

Using a scale-up approach more facilities will become available as more angels and orga are on the terrain.

Permanent facilities include:

* Toilets, sinks and a shower at 1 location on the quiet field.
* Basic power at 10+ locations - Only for devices not consuming too much power. Do switch when the power generators are on. Schuko is recommended, there are no 16A blue CEE sockets.
* A lot of birds, trees, nature.

The map of the terrain can be seen at https://map.mch2022.org

== Parking ==
If you arrive by car or motorcycle, you cannot drive it onto the terrain. There is a parking lot opposite of the terrain. Follow the signs.
* You need a [https://tickets.mch2022.org ticket] for parking
* The parking lot is closed for newly arriving cars from 00:00 to 6:00, please plan your trip so you arrive well before 00:00 or after 06:00.
* You are not allowed to camp on or near the parking lot
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== Safety ==
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If something goes wrong, when accidents happen...team safety is there for you

We provide:
*First Aid station and the Security tent on the main orga area.
*24/7 support in case of first aid, fire on land and on the water
*an awesome time as a volunteer with us (golf-cart, gator, bikes and free training !)

We ask of you:
* In case of an emergency please contact team Safety, call 2222 on your dect phone to contact our operator or talk to anyone with a handheld radio, state the nature of the emergency and tell us the exact location.
* No Open fire (charcoal bbq, campfires) allowed anywhere on the terrain.
* No black water dumping in any open water (lakes, ponds and harbour)
* When using a boot the skipper is always responsible (please be careful) or ask the harbour authority for assistance or advice.
* Please drink enough water, remember Mate != Water

More to follow somewhere end of may.....

== Venues ==
All official lectures will be recorded and streamed live, unless stated otherwise. After MCH2022, the complete archive of these recordings will be published online at [https://media.ccc.de/c/MCH2022 here].

The official SHA content venues are:
* Lecture tent 🧮 [[Abacus]]: Liskov field
* Lecture tent 🔋 [[Battery]]: Olsen field
* Lecture tent 🔮 [[Clairvoyance]]: Lamarr field
* Workshop tent 🧬 [[DNA]]: Liskov field
* Workshop tent ✉️ [[Envelope]]: Manning field
* Workshop tent ⚙️ [[Gear]]: Hamilton field
* Tardis room: Somewhere on the field.

There are also villages that host the official content:
* t.d.b.

Additionally, several villages have composed content schedules of their own. If your village is presenting lectures and/or workshops, and you want to add these to the listed programme, please contact the Speakerdesk.

== Infodesk ==
The information desk (or info desk) is the first and main place to contact if you have any kind of problem or question. It is located in the portacabin complex and is reachable online via info@mch2022.org or twitter @...tbd

Our friendly crew will try to help you, especially if you:

* need information
* think that the orga crew of the camp should be informed about an incident
* need a train/plane/spaceship ticket printed ASAP and NOW!!!! (if you ask nicely)
* need directions to a another venue off-field
* have a question regarding the organization of the camp
* feel lost and want to know where to get Club Mate to get back in touch with life
* and if we're not busy helping people, we are also nice to have a chat with.

== Angel / volunteer catering and support ==
The MCH2022 event can't happen without volunteers, so the Volunteers team is there to make sure all visitors who want to volunteer can do so and get all the TLC they need.

If you (maybe) want to volunteer register an account at https://angel.mch2022.org/ and once you arrive at the campsite walk over to the volunteer desk at the center of the camp to let us know you're here. There you will receive further instructions about how you can help. No strings attached, you decide how many shifts you want to do. If you do volunteer, however, expect a free and healthy meal, a lot of people who are happy to see you, and a warm and fuzzy feeling on the inside!

We provide:
* The [https://angel.mch2022.org angelsystem] to register as angel and self assignment to shifts
* A place called Heaven with a big tent, and maybe a campfire in the evening where all volunteers and crews can chill out
* '''food and drinks for volunteers and crew, also during buildup and teardown'''
* Distribution of food tokens for volunteers
* Volunteer coordinators to answer questions from volunteers and to make sure all teams get the help they need

== Food and drinks ==

To quench your thirst and hunger anytime, we have three bars and a food court to serve you.

=== Bars ===
{{:Bars}}

=== Food Court ===

* Food Court - Solid stuff
: Location: Hamilton Field
: Opening hours differ by vendor

In the food court, you will find many vendors who will offer a wide array of choice for breakfast, lunch, and dinner.
:➡️ [[food court]]

=== Payment ===

To pay for your food and drinks you can use your payment card, phone or one or more anonymous MCH payment cards (cash to card). The MCH Payment cards can be bought at the info tent at the beginning of the site. Cash left over on your card can be refunded the same way you put cash on it.

== Waste ==
As efficient as hackers get, there are always some bits left over. Fortunately team:Waste has your back! We organize the trash-bins, empty them on a regular basis and get everything away from the field.

We provide:
* about 100 bins scattered throughout MCH2022 to get rid of your 'regular household' trash.
* Arranging the emptying of said bins
* about 20 buckets with sand for dunking your cigarettes
* an awesome time as a volunteer with us (golf-cart!)

We do '''not''' provide:
* Large or hazardous waste removal
* Waste removal service on Chriet Titulaer island

We ask of you:
* Drop trash in bins. Not around the field.
* Please do not dispose of sharp objects in the trash, think of our safety! (package it well if you absolutely need to!)
* Report (using the QR code on the front of the bin) the status of a bin. It's fun, helps us and creates cool stats!
* Take home what you bring to the field. Do not leave your tent, sofa's, projects etc.

== Power ==
The distibution cabinets deployed on the fields can be used to power your stuff. Be kind and share your power with your neighbours. Only use outdoor extension cords (IP44 "splash proof") but try to keep them dry anyway. Use a cable '''with protective earth''', and 1.5 mm² or thicker wires; these cables are usually marked with "3G1.5". For longer cables or if you expect loads higher than just charing your laptop, 2.5 mm² is recommended (marked "3G2.5"). Industrial cables (marked H05RN-F or H07RN-F (neoprene), or H05BQ-F or H07BQ-F (polyurethane)) are the best cables for outdoor use.

Power strips must only be used in dry places only and above ground level, so that no water can reach them.

Use SCHUKO plugs only, we can't facilitate the BLUE 16A CEE plugs! There are some 400V/32A 5pol. sockets too for villages and bigger projects. Consult team power at power@lists.mch2022.org if you need to use one of those for big stuff like pizza ovens, you cannot use full power everywhere.

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'''Some Tips for Travellers, speciality from the US.'''

Voltage is 230V 50 Hz, please check, that your device are ready for the higher voltage, most modern Laptop and phone chargers have a wide range power input, typically from 100-240 Volts. If you insert a 120 volt only device, it will be destroyed in seconds. If you have a 120 Volt only device, you need a voltage converter.

[[File:No-surge-protector.jpg|300px]]

Do '''not''' bring '''120 Volt surge protectors''' power strips (see picture above), they will trip a series of RCD switches and a lot of people will have a power outage. If we find them, we will cut them.

[[File:Dirty bad travel adapter.jpg|300px]]

Use grounded travel adaptors only! Use them only in dry areas. Avoid the fancy multi-country adapters, they are not grounded and bad in quality. If you have only one device, it may be better to buy a european power cord.

Recommended grounded travel adaptors for US, UK, Switzerland and Italy:

[[File:Grounded travel adaptors.jpg|300px]]

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== Network ==
See [[Network]] for all information. Both wired and wireless network will be available.

== Phone ==
There will be a phone network available on-site. See [[Phone]] for more information.

== Facilities on the Map ==
tbd... flesh out.

== Facilities outside MCH2022 ==

=== Supermarkets ===

{{:Supermarkets}}

=== ATM ===

MCH supports wireless card payments for mostly anything. You can also convert physical money into a temporary payment card (or multiple) instead of coins.

If you still need physicial money, both Zeewolde and Nijkerk have ATM's in the town centers and some of the supermarkets provide one as well. These support Maestro and most other types of cards like EC, [http://www.visa.com/atmlocator/index.jsp#(page:results,params:(query:%2752.32103244354646,5.5358339440917925%27)) Visa], [https://network.americanexpress.com/globalnetwork/atm_locator/en/#search/52.331128/5.540494999999964 American Express] and [https://www.mastercard.us/en-us/consumers/get-support/locate-an-atm.html Mastercard]

=== Outdoor/camping shop ===

Forgot something for your camping needs? [https://www.vanduinkerken.com/ Van Duinkerken] seems to be the closest shop to MCH2022 to fulfill your needs.

=== Hardware stores ===

{{:HardwareStores}}
{| class="wikitable"
|-
| welkoop || Baardmeesweg 30, 3899 XS Zeewolde || 8.5km || Mo-Th 09:00-18:00, Fr 09:00-21:00, Sa 09:00-17:00 || rubber boots, clothes
|}

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Juerd:

Schuko (or hybrid) plugs that will fit